Universal Laws of Heavenly Bodies
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Speed of light = 186,282 miles per second
Time a form of describing a distance between today and tomorrow or passage of time which is only relevant in this plane of etherial existence anyway I.E. 1 day = 1 revolution of the planet on its axis 1 year = how long it takes for the earth to orbit the Sun
The day is divided into 24 equal parts each = 1 hour and so on
Since we have calculated the speed of light and because we can observe Solar flares through telescopes etc. and can corroberate our observations with unmanned craft sent towards the sun in recent years we can ascertain an exact distance within 4 parts per billion of accuracy by calculating the moment of the flare and how long it takes for the disturbance of that flare to reach the earth from the sun
The mean distance of our planet from our sun if we use miles instead of kilometers is 92,955,807.3 miles
divide that sum by the time it takes for a beam of light to come from the sun to earth (Aprrox. 8 minutes) and you get the above stated figure of the speed of light.
Knowing this you can calculate the distance of any cellestial body with the very same formula
Time a form of describing a distance between today and tomorrow or passage of time which is only relevant in this plane of etherial existence anyway I.E. 1 day = 1 revolution of the planet on its axis 1 year = how long it takes for the earth to orbit the Sun
The day is divided into 24 equal parts each = 1 hour and so on
Since we have calculated the speed of light and because we can observe Solar flares through telescopes etc. and can corroberate our observations with unmanned craft sent towards the sun in recent years we can ascertain an exact distance within 4 parts per billion of accuracy by calculating the moment of the flare and how long it takes for the disturbance of that flare to reach the earth from the sun
The mean distance of our planet from our sun if we use miles instead of kilometers is 92,955,807.3 miles
divide that sum by the time it takes for a beam of light to come from the sun to earth (Aprrox. 8 minutes) and you get the above stated figure of the speed of light.
Knowing this you can calculate the distance of any cellestial body with the very same formula
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I've been thinking about this for a couple weeks now and haven't been able to figure out either way, how to definitely know for sure which view is correct. In either view you must make assumptions. In either view your measurements are relative to your assumptions. If you assume nothing, or neither view, what do you measure? What can you measure? How can you measure momentum or velocity of something when you are accelerating at the same speed as the object you are trying to measure? It would appear motionless. It looks like you have to assume something is motionless in order to measure how fast the things are moving around it. Or "relatively" motionless in comparison with what you think is moving.
Do you see what I'm saying? We can measure acceleration. But velocity can only be measured by assuming what you are measuring from is not moving. (relative to what is being measured)
So my view is... It'll be one of the questions I ask God when I see Him if He lets me ask questions. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if God made foolish the wisdom of people and the Earth doesn't move at all.
Do you see what I'm saying? We can measure acceleration. But velocity can only be measured by assuming what you are measuring from is not moving. (relative to what is being measured)
So my view is... It'll be one of the questions I ask God when I see Him if He lets me ask questions. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if God made foolish the wisdom of people and the Earth doesn't move at all.
Yeah I know but sometimes our hearts are misguided in matters that we lack understanding in and we refuse to hear the truth, rather we would rely on something we can understand. Remember high school and calculus?
Couldn't figure out why basic math wasn't good enough back then but I do today.
When we were children we thought as children and drank milk.
Now as adults we drink wine and no longer rely on milk same goes for understanding of certain aspects of science which are hard to wrap our head around.
I still love him though regardless if we don't agree on everything and he has proven my beliefs wrong on other topics so I have to have patience and forgiveness on this one. I know God will open up his mind concerning this matter even if it takes a while.
He is still my brother in faith under God
Couldn't figure out why basic math wasn't good enough back then but I do today.
When we were children we thought as children and drank milk.
Now as adults we drink wine and no longer rely on milk same goes for understanding of certain aspects of science which are hard to wrap our head around.
I still love him though regardless if we don't agree on everything and he has proven my beliefs wrong on other topics so I have to have patience and forgiveness on this one. I know God will open up his mind concerning this matter even if it takes a while.
He is still my brother in faith under God
I think I understand your position Grandpa and God bless you.
Much of any kind of problem solving has direct relation to ones perspective and if it were still 1918 I might even be persuaded to take up the Geocentric theory but with satellites and vast improvements in understanding in the field of astrophysics and Astronomy unrefuteable corroberation of certain theories is here.
It's not hyperbole either repeatable experiments to prove heliocenticity are everywhere today and with the advent of the space age we can no longer stick our heads in the perverbial sand!
This in no way refutes any of the scriptures in fact it corroberates them. Unfortunately making those unbelievers believe is as hard today as it was 2000 years ago on the cross.
I for one believe it just brings more glory to God when you begin to understand the complexities of the universe and how infinitely great our creator truly is
For Jesus said in heaven there are many rooms if it were not so I would not have told you
The universe is immense and I personally believe this is what he was talking about.
I would like to start a thread on dimensions but if folks can't get past geocentricity then understanding multiple dimensions is out of the question.
Thanks for your post grandpa I always love your comments your wisdom of years shows very plainly in your words.
May God bless you always
Selah
Much of any kind of problem solving has direct relation to ones perspective and if it were still 1918 I might even be persuaded to take up the Geocentric theory but with satellites and vast improvements in understanding in the field of astrophysics and Astronomy unrefuteable corroberation of certain theories is here.
It's not hyperbole either repeatable experiments to prove heliocenticity are everywhere today and with the advent of the space age we can no longer stick our heads in the perverbial sand!
This in no way refutes any of the scriptures in fact it corroberates them. Unfortunately making those unbelievers believe is as hard today as it was 2000 years ago on the cross.
I for one believe it just brings more glory to God when you begin to understand the complexities of the universe and how infinitely great our creator truly is
For Jesus said in heaven there are many rooms if it were not so I would not have told you
The universe is immense and I personally believe this is what he was talking about.
I would like to start a thread on dimensions but if folks can't get past geocentricity then understanding multiple dimensions is out of the question.
Thanks for your post grandpa I always love your comments your wisdom of years shows very plainly in your words.
May God bless you always
Selah
But relativity allows us to choose. For the purposes of many scientific calculations, it is much easier to make calculations based on heliocentric view. The numbers work out more elegantly. For the 3 year old, who watches the sun rise and set, a geocentric view may be preferred.
Also, I'm kind of confused Grandpa. In the example provided for how scientists measure the speed of light, what do you think the assumptions are?
On another note, I'm just waiting for s-love to start claiming the world is flat. The Bible never seems to mention it being round. He could go grab a straight-edge and see how flat it is. Although he should be careful where to do this or he might think that the world actually folds in on itself, oh my!
You believe your five senses eh?
hmmm........well how do you believe in God Doc.? You can't see him if you can I am sending a str8 jacket to your place stat.
You can't smell him
You can't hear him if you do revert to you can't see him for next course of action
You can't taste him
You can't touch him therefore you can't truly feel him with any of your 5 senses
Before you go into a semantical or philosophical argument of what I said really ponder the preceding words.
Think about this you believe in a books teachings that have been written, amalgamated, translated through many languages,disassembled, reassembled,printed in various forms and you still argue vehemently with those of like faith over doctrine of said book that you personally cannot corroberate.
Yet you absolutely deny heliocentricism on the basis of your own eyes convictions!
Now really really think about my words they are not meant to dissuade any who read this away from faith in God, rather to open ones mind to rational thinking rather than blind faith in an ideology you cannot possibly corroberate with your 5 senses for you were not there at anytime when the bible was being written or its amalgamation or the reformation years when it was being translated yet again.Therefore you cannot truthfully corroberate any of it!
Feeling or believing in God is a spiritual matter.
Understanding the mechanics of the Universe is an earthly matter and never the twain shall meet in life!
The evidence I have put forth in supposition of my position is well founded and documented if you chose to deny it that's your bag man!
The earth revolves around the sun not the other way around and the only way to prove it to you is to take you personally into space. since I do not have the financial means to accomplish this we are left with 1 option and that is accept the empiracal data of the last 500 years of research that man has put forth through divine inspiration from God and research of the laws of the universe that he put in place.
Your understanding of the laws pertaining to universal mechanics is seriously flawed and needs to be corrected before you continue spewing false doctrine of the nature of the universe.
hmmm........well how do you believe in God Doc.? You can't see him if you can I am sending a str8 jacket to your place stat.
You can't smell him
You can't hear him if you do revert to you can't see him for next course of action
You can't taste him
You can't touch him therefore you can't truly feel him with any of your 5 senses
Before you go into a semantical or philosophical argument of what I said really ponder the preceding words.
Think about this you believe in a books teachings that have been written, amalgamated, translated through many languages,disassembled, reassembled,printed in various forms and you still argue vehemently with those of like faith over doctrine of said book that you personally cannot corroberate.
Yet you absolutely deny heliocentricism on the basis of your own eyes convictions!
Now really really think about my words they are not meant to dissuade any who read this away from faith in God, rather to open ones mind to rational thinking rather than blind faith in an ideology you cannot possibly corroberate with your 5 senses for you were not there at anytime when the bible was being written or its amalgamation or the reformation years when it was being translated yet again.Therefore you cannot truthfully corroberate any of it!
Feeling or believing in God is a spiritual matter.
Understanding the mechanics of the Universe is an earthly matter and never the twain shall meet in life!
The evidence I have put forth in supposition of my position is well founded and documented if you chose to deny it that's your bag man!
The earth revolves around the sun not the other way around and the only way to prove it to you is to take you personally into space. since I do not have the financial means to accomplish this we are left with 1 option and that is accept the empiracal data of the last 500 years of research that man has put forth through divine inspiration from God and research of the laws of the universe that he put in place.
Your understanding of the laws pertaining to universal mechanics is seriously flawed and needs to be corrected before you continue spewing false doctrine of the nature of the universe.
Well scientists say the speed of light is constant. I was wondering, if they were truly measuring it, how come it is not appearing slightly faster when Earth is travelling towards it and slightly slower when Earth is travelling away from it. You know, if Earth is moving around.
I suppose the sun is a fixed distance from the Earth so they probably did some sort of calculation from that and then assumed the light from everything travels that same speed?
I suppose the sun is a fixed distance from the Earth so they probably did some sort of calculation from that and then assumed the light from everything travels that same speed?