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are you Jewish by ethnos? just curious.....
by constant living spiritual life/union with yahshua hamashiach(the messiah savior king), (and complete immersion of my whole complete life every day fully in him, buried with him and crucified with him the way it is written in the TORAH/ SCRIPTURE/ by the men of yahweh)
by faith,
also by birth,
also by re-birth(born again),
also by circumcision of heart (the most important - he is not a Jew ..... but inwardly .... yahweh's doing)


notwithstanding also in him "there is neither Jew nor greek..... " ... all of this is way beyond the internet capability to communicate though.... only if the father in heaven grants it can any man receive it.
 
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by constant living spiritual life/union with yahshua hamashiach(the messiah savior king), (and complete immersion of my whole complete life every day fully in him, buried with him and crucified with him the way it is written in the TORAH/ SCRIPTURE/ by the men of yahweh)
by faith,
also by birth,
also by re-birth(born again),
also by circumcision of heart (the most important - he is not a Jew ..... but inwardly .... yahweh's doing)


notwithstanding also in him "there is neither Jew nor greek..... " ... all of this is way beyond the internet capability to communicate though.... only if the father in heaven grants it can any man receive it.
When you came out of your mothers womb, were your parents Gentile or Jewish by blood.. thats the question
 
Feb 1, 2015
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I am neither Jewish by birth or by rebirth, there is no doctrine of Replacement Theology, I will never become a Jew, spiritual or other wise.

In the natural (flesh), no one can be a Jew unless his mother is a Jewish, that's a fact that Jewishness comes through the mother, that has been confirmed to me.

Back to topic.
 
Sep 6, 2014
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One of the hardest spiritual lessons to learn for sure.......

Galatians 3:10-14

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For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them. 11But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith. 12And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them. 13Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree: 14That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

Even Peter was hindered by law keeping and many others here including myself, but now we are free through faith in Christ Jesus. Praise be to God in Jesus Christ and in the Holy Spirit :)

Galatians 2:11-21

11But when Cephas came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because he stood condemned. 12For before certain men came from James, he was eating with the Gentiles; but when they came he drew back and separated himself, fearing the circumcision party.[SUP]a[/SUP] 13And the rest of the Jews acted hypocritically along with him, so that even Barnabas was led astray by their hypocrisy. 14But when I saw that their conduct was not in step with the truth of the gospel, I said to Cephas before them all, “If you, though a Jew, live like a Gentile and not like a Jew, how can you force the Gentiles to live like Jews?”
15We ourselves are Jews by birth and not Gentile sinners; 16yet we know that a person is not justified[SUP]b[/SUP] by works of the law but through faith in Jesus Christ, so we also have believed in Christ Jesus, in order to be justified by faith in Christ and not by works of the law, because by works of the law no one will be justified.
17But if, in our endeavor to be justified in Christ, we too were found to be sinners, is Christ then a servant of sin? Certainly not! 18For if I rebuild what I tore down, I prove myself to be a transgressor. 19For through the law I died to the law, so that I might live to God. 20I have been crucified with Christ. It is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me. And the life I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me. 21I do not nullify the grace of God, for if righteousness[SUP]c[/SUP] were through the law, then Christ died for no purpose.

Acts 15:6-11
6The apostles and the elders were gathered together to consider this matter. 7And after there had been much debate, Peter stood up and said to them, “Brothers, you know that in the early days God made a choice among you, that by my mouth the Gentiles should hear the word of the gospel and believe. 8And God, who knows the heart, bore witness to them, by giving them the Holy Spirit just as he did to us, 9and he made no distinction between us and them, having cleansed their hearts by faith. 10Now, therefore, why are you putting God to the test by placing a yoke on the neck of the disciples that neither our fathers nor we have been able to bear? 11But we believe that we will be saved through the grace of the Lord Jesus, just as they will.”
 
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I am neither Jewish by birth or by rebirth, there is no doctrine of Replacement Theology, I will never become a Jew, spiritual or other wise.

In the natural (flesh), no one can be a Jew unless his mother is a Jewish, that's a fact that Jewishness comes through the mother, that has been confirmed to me.

Back to topic.

careful........

But he/she is a Jew, which is one Inwardly; and Circumcision is that of the Heart, in the Spirit, and not in the Letter; whose Praise is not of men, but of God.

His True Church made up of Jews and Gentiles , that have been Genuinely converted, called out of Darkness..these are Spiritual Israel, the Mystery of His True Church, If you have the Paraclete, the Spirit of Christ , living in You.. you are His, doesnt matter if you were a gentile by flesh or Jew by flesh.... In HIM-----> You become a New Creation in Him and a Spiritual Jew, thru the Circumcision done without FLESHLY HANDS.... ... the Gentiles,-----> the wild olive branches, Grafted In at Israels blindness and deafness to the Truth, these apart of the Election of Grace, God foreknew... indeed... His True church In Him, are spiritual Jews as Jesus was.. no longer walking in the flesh, but Alive in the Spirit, made alive because of the Gift of Righteousness, Imputed Unto them from 'belief' in Him! indeed
 
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careful........

But he/she is a Jew, which is one Inwardly; and Circumcision is that of the Heart, in the Spirit, and not in the Letter; whose Praise is not of men, but of God.

His True Church made up of Jews and Gentiles , that have been Genuinely converted, called out of Darkness..these are Spiritual Israel, the Mystery of His True Church, If you have the Paraclete, the Spirit of Christ , living in You.. you are His, doesn't matter if you were a gentile by flesh or Jew by flesh.... In HIM-----> You become a New Creation in Him and a Spiritual Jew, thru the Circumcision done without FLESHLY HANDS.... ... the Gentiles,-----> the wild olive branches, Grafted In at Israels blindness and deafness to the Truth, these apart of the Election of Grace, God foreknew... indeed... His True church In Him, are spiritual Jews as Jesus was.. no longer walking in the flesh, but Alive in the Spirit, made alive because of the Gift of Righteousness, Imputed Unto them from 'belief' in Him! indeed
I hear what you say, brother, and still I don't except Replacement Theology, I believe in the Dual Covenant and that God hasn't forsaken them whom he foreknew. To them are the covenants which are eternal.
 

Grandpa

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A person is under the law their whole life. IMO this is questionable depending on what you mean by it.

We are certainly not under the penalty of the Law in Christ. We remain subject to the law in that what the law says is wrong is still wrong and what the law says is right is still right.


We are not under the Law in the sense that our relationship with God does NOT depend on our obedience. In fact our obedience depends on the Holy Spirit's prompting and enablement.
Are you going to quote Galatians to me? Ha... Evangelize me, brother!!!

No, that was my bad wording. What I should have said is that everybody knows the law because they are under it their whole life, until they come to Christ. Then, this new life is a whole new thing which requires new understanding.

I appreciate you pointing out the error in my wording. Don't let me fall into legalism... lol
 
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re question in post 22.

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yes.