Usama Dakdok ~ what's your take?

[Livn4Him]

This man claims he is a christian, has put the quran to to english and wants wvryone to read it. What do you think bout reading the quran?
He has sent a copy of it to every Congressman and Senator in office....
I will post my view later today. For now I would just like to get the ball rolling and see what you think.

Warning: THIS WILL GET DEEP!

 

[Megatron]

there is nothing wrong with just reading the Quran. Its just a book. The problem comes if you let it affect you.

 

[Shwagga]

This man claims he is a christian, has put the quran to to english and wants wvryone to read it. What do you think bout reading the quran?
He has sent a copy of it to every Congressman and Senator in office....
I will post my view later today. For now I would just like to get the ball rolling and see what you think.

Warning: THIS WILL GET DEEP!

Usama is Christian who was born in Egypt and went to Muslim schools. He has one of the most honest Arabic to English translations of the koran which is why he sends it to the government and sells it. A lot of English translations corrupt the Arabic and make false translations to persuade ignorant westerners that Islam isn't a bad religion.

So what is the big deal? Usama is one of the leading evangelists in the west to Muslims. He goes to conferences quite often and hosts a live radio show weekly exposing Islam.

So, he is not trying to convert anyone to Islam that is not why he wants them to read his translation of the koran, he just wants you to see what the koran actually says. If you can't speak Arabic, of course.

 

[silverwind]

Well....Wally Shubat converted from being a muslim terrorist to christianity because our bible made sense to him and he found out that our 'anti-christ' is their 'saviour' just by reading our bible. there are alot of opposites... listen to his testimony, there are plenty of videos. Personally i would stay away from the quaran,.. it is all about the destruction of Jews and Christians and "God has no sons"...

 

[In_Atom]

The Usama Dakdok Scandal on ABN SAT


Meet Pastor Usama Kamel Dakdok and his Hatred

Never heard of him? Me too, till I saw him drop a few clangers on Samar Gorial’s show on ABNSat . This “Christian” missionary worked himself into a frenzy of hatred; a frenzy which apparently culminated into Usama Dakdok spouting a foul word*. Yes, we bring you ANOTHER scandal from an ABN show. Why do some fundamentalist Christians keep us so busy with their debauched and money-hungry ways?

Who is Usama Dakdok?

He is from Egyptian stock and functions out of “thestraightway” ministry. His claim to fame is his “translation” of the Quran - which he is selling on his site for a whopping £24.95 dollars. For those in the know concerning classical Arabic; Usama Dakdok is far from qualified to translate such a text. I guess his lack of expertise and study has not stopped him from entering such an enterprise; I wonder if it as financially lucrative as he first imagined.

If you have bought his translation, which he styles as the only “true” translation then you have well and truly been duped. Dakdok does not fit ANY of Von Denffer’s educational requirements for translating the Quran in English.

Here is Usama Dakdok Demonstrating his Ineptness via Video (warning bad language):

YouTube - ‪Antichrist Hate monger‬‏


The Synopsis of Usama Dakdok’s address to Shadeed Lewis on ABN’s “Jihad Exposed”

I know the show seems to have a bizarre title but let’s leave that for now and concentrate on the foul mouth of Usama Dakdok. On the show he is confronted by a caller (MDI’s Shadeed Lewis) and Dakdok just goes off the handle.

Was Usama Dakdok possessed?

Really? Have a look at the footage yourself. He starts calling all Muslims deceivers, loses his composure and is generally ranting and raving whilst insulting Islam and Muslims.

Usama Dakdok’s bigotry, insults and bad language*

Dakdok suggests, in his shaky English, all Muslims following the Quran are Jihadists and ALL Muslims are demons, he calls Allah (God) and the Prophet deceivers.

In the end it appears as though Dakdok called Lewis an “a**” whilst strangling his expression (LATER CLARIFIED AS "ASK" BY DAKDOK, SEE BELOW). The other guest (Anjem Choudry) on the show accuses Usama Dakdok of “barking like a dog”; such was Dakdok’s crazed manner!

The big evangelical con

Does Usama Dakdok really want to be taken seriously as a translator? Nobody in the academic community considers him to be credible and those in the lay community have realised the man seems to have some real issues which point him out to be the charlatan the academic community consider him to be.

 

[In_Atom]

Usama is Christian who was born in Egypt and went to Muslim schools. He has one of the most honest Arabic to English translations of the koran which is why he sends it to the government and sells it. A lot of English translations corrupt the Arabic and make false translations to persuade ignorant westerners that Islam isn't a bad religion.

So what is the big deal? Usama is one of the leading evangelists in the west to Muslims. He goes to conferences quite often and hosts a live radio show weekly exposing Islam.

So, he is not trying to convert anyone to Islam that is not why he wants them to read his translation of the koran, he just wants you to see what the koran actually says. If you can't speak Arabic, of course.

Besides Muslims, there are also a lot of Quran`s translation made by even people belonging to Jewish fait and Christian faith, one of the Quranic translations that I have in my possession and read often is the one made by N. J. Dawood, who is a Jew.

You can go here : OQP
On the left side, there is a bouton ''Select Translation(s)'' and you have acces to up to 39 different translations made by Muslims, Christians, Atheist and people belonging to no particular faith. the Good news is that it's free, you have free acces to all of these translations as opposed to Usama Dakdok's 24.95$ translation one.

 

[In_Atom]

Well....Wally Shubat converted from being a muslim terrorist to christianity because our bible made sense to him and he found out that our 'anti-christ' is their 'saviour' just by reading our bible. there are alot of opposites... listen to his testimony, there are plenty of videos. Personally i would stay away from the quaran,.. it is all about the destruction of Jews and Christians and "God has no sons"...

I remember a couple of years ago, in fact only 1 year ago (April 2010) ... I came across some people who used to say ''don't approach the Bible, it's evil ! It's all about incest, rape, violence and racism''. You reminded me of them, hopefully I didn't listen to them and decided to have a look at it by myself so that I might make my own thinking and come to my own conclusions, and hopefully this is what some people on here will do. Sometimes God uses the tongue of an envious person to spread His word, Amazing isn't ?

Peace be upon those who seek it,
Son of Adam.

 

[Shwagga]

Besides Muslims, there are also a lot of Quran`s translation made by even people belonging to Jewish fait and Christian faith, one of the Quranic translations that I have in my possession and read often is the one made by N. J. Dawood, who is a Jew.

You can go here : OQP
On the left side, there is a bouton ''Select Translation(s)'' and you have acces to up to 39 different translations made by Muslims, Christians, Atheist and people belonging to no particular faith. the Good news is that it's free, you have free acces to all of these translations as opposed to Usama Dakdok's 24.95$ translation one.

I'm not sure what any of this has to do with anything that I said. We aren't talking about non-muslims translating the koran, we are specifically talking about Usama Dakdok's translation which you probably do not own. If you do, please let me know. As for these translations, they are meaningless to me.

 

[Livn4Him]

there is nothing wrong with just reading the Quran. Its just a book. The problem comes if you let it affect you.

Megatron, please understand that this is NOT directed troward you personally. So please; do not take offense. I am using your erply to quote because it is the first of the ones that I was looking for.

I am convinced that reading is as harmless as watching television. Regardless of what we intend, we always get more than we bargain for. And I can prove this, but you are going to have to your opinion aside to see what I am referring to. I just ask that you give me a fair chance.... But honesty is the key here.
Before I go into that however, let me ask:
1. Have you not ever been 'gripped' mentally/emotionally as you watched a non-christian movie?
2. Have you ever been 'gripped' mentally/emotionally by a good novel that was non-christian while you read it?
3. Have you ever read a non-christian magazine/newspaper article that made you share the news you read with someone else?
4. Have you ever had an emotional experience such as tears coming to your eyes, crying, or felt anger/frustration rise up in your heart as you casually read a non-christian article?
If you answered yes to any one of these questions, then you just proved to yourself that reading can have an effect on you-whether you want it to or not.
Now consider this: The quran is a book that addresses a lot of issues that evolve around mankind, correct? It addresses the spiritual state of man; the way to (their) god; and a whole gambit of other life issues that mankind is confronted with in their life time. Would you not agree?
If indeed this is the case, then it could in fact, be considered a spiritual book. Correct? if this is the case, then please explaine to me how a human being would read this book as they would a mere novel? It would be impossible.
Our very nature would compell us to read it in such a way so as to really understand what the author is meaningl where they are coming from. We would be lying to ourselves if we said this was not true. For even when we read the ingredients off of a cerial container, or the directions on how to cook an item we're unfamiliar with we read for understanding.
So how much more intensely would we read the quran? Which leads to my point-if I haven't already made enough to establish my point that reading the quran for [any] reason, can be hazardous to your spiritual health.
This book may have been penned by a man, but it was indeed autored by Lucifer himself. And if you think that you are smarter than he is, you are grossly mistaken. He is so wise that God Himself said that he will be able to deceive the very elect...if that were possible. He is so intelligent that he has convinced millions upon millions of people that he does not exist.
Having said that, let me address this issue: if this book captivates the heart of one soul, and converts it over to islam, would that not be a tragedy for Christ? (And please, don't say something like: "Well, that person must have have been destined for that then.")
Another concern of mine is: How many Congressman, Senators,National leaders that have been given ths book by Usama really care about knowing the truth about islam? And out of those few, how many do you really think care about doing things God's way? Narrows it down pretty much, doesn't it? I mean, lets do the math here; if enough of this nations leaders actually [cared] about truth and righteousness, how is it that abortion is legal? How is it that prayer was taken out of school? How is that laws are being passed everyday that protect gay right? How is it that christians cannot invoke a prayer during graduation? I think you get my point.
So, after all that's been said and done what other recourse is there for this book of islam, other than to be a thorn in our side? To usher into the hearts and minds of our national leaders spiritual indoctrination that is NOT according to Gods Holy Bible?
Why give the arch enemy of our soul more ammunition than he already has? Do we not have enough issues to contend with in this country, only to have to fight from within our own borders to be a christian nation, or be able to proclaim Christ openly without having to contend with major islamic influence? Which is exactly what is going to happen if we do not curb this.

NOTE: This presentation of my concern is only 1/2 of it. The other half evloves around an even more in-depth issue. Disobeying God's command...more on that when I deal wit the repercussion of this portion.
FINAL NOTE: This is NOT an attack on Usama Dakdok. Satan has used others before, he is doing so now.

 

[In_Atom]

I'm not sure what any of this has to do with anything that I said. We aren't talking about non-muslims translating the koran, we are specifically talking about Usama Dakdok's translation which you probably do not own. If you do, please let me know. As for these translations, they are meaningless to me.

Really ?
Is Usama Dakdok a non-muslim ? Yes. Did he commit himself to the task of making a ''translation'' of the Qur'an ? Yes. So how is this suppose to be off-topic ? You claimed that Usama Dakdok's translation of the Holy Qur'an is a more trushworthy and honest one than the already existing ones; and you went even as far as saying that the majority of already available english translations of the Qur'an are corrupt (and willingly are) in order to persuade the ignorant westerners that Islam isnt a bad religion. If this isnt an attempt to cause doubt and suspicion on the honesty and integrity of the already existing english translation of the Holy Qur'an, then what is it ? This last sentence of yours is what really pushed me to provide you with a link that gives you access to more than 39 different translations of the Qur'an, made by Muslims AND Non-Muslims (so that he who doesnt trust a muslim translator, let him pick one made by a jew) all of them in the English language, and for Free, as opposed to Dakdok's one which is at a cost of 24.95$. So that you may know, that we have nothing to HIDE regarding our religion and that we're FREE from your slander and that which you accuses us of. So that even those ''ignorant and gullible westerners'' (to whom you refered) may see with their own eyes how ridiculous your accusation is.

As for Usama Dakdok's translation and I (if I own one?), No I don't ... and I won't either.Why would I encourage his enterprise by purshasing one at the cost of 24.95$ when I can get access to 39 english translations for free ( I wonder if it is as financially lucrative as he first imagined). If you have bought his translation, which he styles as the only “true” translation then you have well and truly been duped. Dakdok apparently does not fit ANY of Von Denffer’s educational requirements for translating the Quran in English. Many are those who took upon themselves this big task of 'translating' the untranslatable, the Holy Qur'an, muslims, christians and jews and none of them were as arrogant as Usama Dakdok to claim that theirs is the ''truest-irreproachable-faultless-or-best''... they were scholars and had humility, Dakdok isnt a scholar and hasn't humility. Perhaps if he spent more time reading his Bible than attacking the Qur'an (in vain), he would have come across Proverbs 11:2 and had a light bulb moment.

 

[Scotth1960]

This man claims he is a christian, has put the quran to to english and wants wvryone to read it. What do you think bout reading the quran?
He has sent a copy of it to every Congressman and Senator in office....
I will post my view later today. For now I would just like to get the ball rolling and see what you think.

Warning: THIS WILL GET DEEP!

Christians need to know about religions. Reading the Book of Mormon doesn't convert you into Mormonism. Reading the Quran doesn't make you a Muslim. Reading the Talmud and Jewish translations of the Bible doesn't make you into a practicing Jew. Reading The Watchtower and "Awake!" doesn't mean you'll be a Jehovah's Witness.
Reading Papal Encyclicals doesn't convert you to be a Roman Catholic. So learning about the Orthodox Church doesn't mean you'll become an Orthodox Christian. But if you are going to convert to the Truth, you will need the help of the Holy Spirit (John 16:13). I believe the Truth is found in Eastern Orthodoxy. There must be more than mere rational understanding. We must experience God in the Church. But there is nothing wrong learning about what world religions teach. Not everything in them is bad. But generally, non-Orthodox faiths mix truth with a lot of errors. Largely, Orthodoxy is free of error. It does have a problem of ethnicity, ethnocentrism. The only thing that makes the Orthodox different from each other is their nationalities. So there are different jurisdictions of the OC in America based on ethnic differences. Serbian, Russian, Albanian, Ukrainian, Belarusian, Bulgarian, Macedonian, Romanian, Greek, Antiochian, and so on.
There is nothing wrong with reading English translations of the Quran. Reading the original Arabic is for converts to Islam. The Muslims all consider the original Arabic inspired of Allah, and only that is their version of the Word of God. So, the OC considers only the Greek original of the Orthodox Greek OT and NT is the inspired infallible Word of God. Take care.

 

[Avinu]

This is what God says about getting involved with different doctrine.

Ephesians 4:14 That we should no longer be children,tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men,in the cunning craftiness of deceitful plotting.

Hebrews 13:9 Do not be carried about with various and strange doctrines. For it is good that the heart be established by grace, not with foods which have not profited those who have been occupied with them.

I think scripture speaks loud and clear. Shalom

 

[selenah]

This man claims he is a christian, has put the quran to to english and wants wvryone to read it. What do you think bout reading the quran?
He has sent a copy of it to every Congressman and Senator in office....
I will post my view later today. For now I would just like to get the ball rolling and see what you think.

Warning: THIS WILL GET DEEP!

I don't have any problem with him wanting everyone to read the Quran, as long as he doesn't want people to believe it. Ummm oh this is going to get deep? Okay gotta go.

 

[Livn4Him]

Are we so simple minded or have we become so numb to the truths about the spiritual realm to actually believe that we can read things and them not have an impact on us?
Or is it that we feel we're so [strong] that we can actually match wits with the devil and win?
How is it that you who feel that what Mr. Dakdok is doing is okay, that you atually believe that we [need] to read the Quran to know what satan is up to?
The bottom line is this: What does the word of God say about this? ANd I infer this because the [only] ones that oppose this mans aactiojns are the [only] ones whom used the Bible to support their stand.
My Bible teaches me that we're not to even mention the names of other gods' (Ex. 23:13; Josh. 2:17); and also teaches us that The True and Living God wants us to have NOTHING to do with them. And you can read all about this as you read the Old Testament accounts of when the Isrealites moved into diferent lands.
Don't you [get] it? If Jesus had to combat the devil with the Holy scriptures, don't you think you're being a little presumptious to think that you can stand in opposotion to satan and his attacks with your mere ideology?
People, I cannot tell you how serious this is if you are not willing to put the Bible before your own opinion. Hence the reason I have not posted more about this to date.