Vaccination?

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If a Christian gets vaccinated for the covid Is this a lack of faith?

  • Getting the vaccination means the Christian lacks faith.

  • Getting the vaccination demonstrates love thy neighbor.

  • Other,I will explain.


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He allowed prophecy to show how we failed to walk His plan for us, not that He planned to have us fail Him.
It is the adversary who only comes to steal, kill and destroy, God only does good.
I cannot argue with any of that, other than, i think you missed my point.

God knew the only way for Man to fail in this current world was by what is happening now.
God has a Purpose!
To fulfill remaining Prophecy!
And until that Prophecy is fulfilled, we are LIVING the Prophecy.
We are that Close to the unveiling of a War/Peace Treaty/3rd Temple/Man of Sin/Beast/MOB/Revelations 16:1-14.
So anything happening, taking place, whatever it may be, yes, the origins are Satan's, but the Purpose being Fulfilled is God's!!
 

shittim

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His purpose was revealed in the Garden before the fall. His work since the fall is to redeem mankind in spite of ourselves.
 
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I was not trying to argue with Godsgirl83 by mentioning what I did, but I am glad you are aware of what I mentioned, so she knows how different it is here in many areas compared to how nice she has it.
Oh, I'm very well aware of what it is like in other places. I have several loved ones scattered around the country and hear their stories,
and see their pics.
I have loved ones that have gone out and vaxxed, and still stay locked in their homes out of fear!!!!! When they do go out, even though they have vaxxed, they still mask up (even though it's not required for the vaxxed where they are). I'm watching loved ones who were perfectly healthy BEFORE jabbing themselves with God knows what suddenly having medical issues. People who only saw their Dr. once a year for annual check ups that are now in the docs office several times a month!!!!
I have loved ones who have been on the brink of suicide because because of the mental tolls this has taken on them, one who attempted suicide and was rescued only because another family member walked in the room just at the right second!!!


It doesn't have to be that way. There are places where people have said enough is ENOUGH!!!!
Things are never going to go back to "normal" BUT they sure aren't going to get any better as long as people keep giving in.
 
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Is it Possible...

The way Covid was planned and the Vaccines [Patented and no doubt already made and been tested going on 7 years now] came into play, that Vaccine is for the NEXT Airbourne Weapon that will kill the Asymptomatic's?
 
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His purpose was revealed in the Garden before the fall. His work since the fall is to redeem mankind in spite of ourselves.
But He is only going to Redeem those, who when He called upon, they Heard and Accepted. Everyone who Denied Him, He ain't planning on being Mr. Nice Guy!!
 
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But He is only going to Redeem those who when He called upon, they Heard and Accepted. Everyone who Denied Him, He ain't planning on being Mr. Nice Guy!!
And that is why the church needs to STOP tickling peoples ears with 15 minute Sunday talk sessions that make them feel good,
STOP giving into the pressures of "acceptance" from LQBTG xyz......... and all other ungodly sources and start telling people to REPENT!!!!!
 
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Oh, I'm very well aware of what it is like in other places. I have several loved ones scattered around the country and hear their stories,
and see their pics.
I have loved ones that have gone out and vaxxed, and still stay locked in their homes out of fear!!!!! When they do go out, even though they have vaxxed, they still mask up (even though it's not required for the vaxxed where they are). I'm watching loved ones who were perfectly healthy BEFORE jabbing themselves with God knows what suddenly having medical issues. People who only saw their Dr. once a year for annual check ups that are now in the docs office several times a month!!!!
I have loved ones who have been on the brink of suicide because because of the mental tolls this has taken on them, one who attempted suicide and was rescued only because another family member walked in the room just at the right second!!!


It doesn't have to be that way. There are places where people have said enough is ENOUGH!!!!
Things are never going to go back to "normal" BUT they sure aren't going to get any better as long as people keep giving in.
I agree!

It really is what you allow yourself to listen to, that translates into how you act/react.
 
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And that is why the church needs to STOP tickling peoples ears with 15 minute Sunday talk sessions that make them feel good,
STOP giving into the pressures of "acceptance" from LQBTG xyz......... and all other ungodly sources and start telling people to REPENT!!!!!
Amen!
 
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And that is why the church needs to STOP tickling peoples ears with 15 minute Sunday talk sessions that make them feel good,
STOP giving into the pressures of "acceptance" from LQBTG xyz......... and all other ungodly sources and start telling people to REPENT!!!!!
I was raised in the days people now call [Fire and Brimstone](late 60's - early 80's]

We need those days again because I cannot tell you how many Revivals were happening then...unlike the None happening now!

We need those Elijah Days!
 

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Natural Immunity,So then the only way to have natural Immunity Is to give up on trying to get covid under control and let the chips fall where they may.
I don't think it's a zero-sum situation. We can support natural immunity while still maintaining our best controls of the virus. Unfortunately, we swapped out social distancing, improved cleanliness measures & protections for the vaccine. This problem should've continued to be handled on multiple fronts.

What I feel we should do in the natural is:

- bring back social distancing & cleanliness measures (mandated)

- make masks and vaccines optional (individual choice)

- promote a nationwide campaign for strengthening the immune system (if they were able to promote masks and such then they are able to promote strengthening the body's natural defenses by reducing obesity, promoting healthy diets, specific foods, discouraging lifestyle choices like smoking, etc.)

- upon first symptoms that suggest a covid infection start treatment, not tell folks to come back later when their symptoms have worsened (because by then it's usually too late)!

- commit to studying those who are immune and why. "warp-speed" down that rabbit trail to its conclusion. duplicate it and distribute it if possible.
 
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I don't think it's a zero-sum situation. We can support natural immunity while still maintaining our best controls of the virus. Unfortunately, we swapped out social distancing, improved cleanliness measures & protections for the vaccine. This problem should've continued to be handled on multiple fronts.

What I feel we should do in the natural is:

- bring back social distancing & cleanliness measures (mandated)

- make masks and vaccines optional (individual choice)

- promote a nationwide campaign for strengthening the immune system (if they were able to promote masks and such then they are able to promote strengthening the body's natural defenses by reducing obesity, promoting healthy diets, specific foods, discouraging lifestyle choices like smoking, etc.)

- upon first symptoms that suggest a covid infection start treatment, not tell folks to come back later when their symptoms have worsened (because by then it's usually too late)!

- commit to studying those who are immune and why. "warp-speed" down that rabbit trail to its conclusion
The Study done in, and "only' throughout the Nebraska Hospitals, connected Clinics, etc, do give us good Evidence for Natural Immunity throughout the Region of Nebraska only. But they are not promoting 2 and 3 Vax, their Studies [also show] just one Vax Doubles what you get via Naturally.

It's not connected to CDC, Fauci, anyone.

It's like a University having a major Science Program doing projects that give us another opinion from mainstreamism.

But the Studies do Prove Natural Immunity is Real!

So that Theory is Correct!!
 

Aidan1

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Hydroxy
Ivermectin
Prednisone
Z Pack
High doses of vitamin C, D3, Zinc, and Quercitron
Well, then is to hoped that you use the right dose and dont have sideeffects againt the mentioned stuff.
And to hope you belong to the people which have the money to buy this stuff.
Btw. Vitamin C will the body only take what he needs, the Plus he will excrete. So it is only usefull, if the body is in need of vitamin C. To give it in highdose as preventation makes no sense.
 

John146

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Well, then is to hoped that you use the right dose and dont have sideeffects againt the mentioned stuff.
And to hope you belong to the people which have the money to buy this stuff.
Btw. Vitamin C will the body only take what he needs, the Plus he will excrete. So it is only usefull, if the body is in need of vitamin C. To give it in highdose as preventation makes no sense.
This treatment plan is quiet affordable and is well tolerated with very little side effects. The major side effect is no more covid.
 

Nehemiah6

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But the Studies do Prove Natural Immunity is Real! So that Theory is Correct!!
Natural immunity has always been real. What is unconscionable is the refusal to ensure that everyone understood how effective it is and how people could stop being fearful. WHO wiped out its information on natural immunity and changed the meaning of every medical term. When you go to their web site there is no entry for either "immunity" or "natural immunity".

And now there is no genuine medical science at all. It is all political science and the evildoers are allowed to continue sabotaging natural immunity, cheap and effective remedies, and above all constitutionally guaranteed rights and freedoms.
 

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This treatment plan is quiet affordable and is well tolerated with very little side effects. The major side effect is no more covid.
Affordable to whom? People which even have no money for food?

Ivermectin in the lab was usefull. The dose was 5 microgram,per milliliter blood. A human will tolerate 0,08 microgram per milliliter blood without getting health problems. All made studies showed that ivermectin is not helping against Covid. For that you need larger studies, which are not made till yet.
About hydroxychloroquine shows an result from 28 International studys, that the lethality in useing for COVID-19 patients is higher then without hydroxychloroquine. And the 28 studies showed also that their is no benefit in useing chloroquine. Thats was worked out from may 21 2021 university hospital Basel, swizerland.
High dose vitamin C makes no sense for prevent. It was useful with already infectet persons. Out of Covid it was found out that people with infection have an lack of vitamin C.
So how usefull is this treatment really.
I agree that a natural immunity is always the best. But minimum 2% of menhood dont have this natural immunity.
2% of over 7000 000 000 people!
 
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I was raised in the days people now call [Fire and Brimstone](late 60's - early 80's]

We need those days again because I cannot tell you how many Revivals were happening then...unlike the None happening now!

We need those Elijah Days!
Actually no we do not
there is no growth in those churches they remain stagnant
hat we need is just plain old teaching the word going through the Bible book by book. Not just 20 minute sermonette sit what ever the paster th is his flock needs to hear
 

John146

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Affordable to whom? People which even have no money for food?

Ivermectin in the lab was usefull. The dose was 5 microgram,per milliliter blood. A human will tolerate 0,08 microgram per milliliter blood without getting health problems. All made studies showed that ivermectin is not helping against Covid. For that you need larger studies, which are not made till yet.
About hydroxychloroquine shows an result from 28 International studys, that the lethality in useing for COVID-19 patients is higher then without hydroxychloroquine. And the 28 studies showed also that their is no benefit in useing chloroquine. Thats was worked out from may 21 2021 university hospital Basel, swizerland.
High dose vitamin C makes no sense for prevent. It was useful with already infectet persons. Out of Covid it was found out that people with infection have an lack of vitamin C.
So how usefull is this treatment really.
I agree that a natural immunity is always the best. But minimum 2% of menhood dont have this natural immunity.
2% of over 7000 000 000 people!
And yet, hundreds of thousands of people have easily survived Covid through these meds. Sounds like your research page needs to catch up with the facts.
 
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