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If a Christian gets vaccinated for the covid Is this a lack of faith?

  • Getting the vaccination means the Christian lacks faith.

  • Getting the vaccination demonstrates love thy neighbor.

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THERE WAS NO AOD IN 70 AD.

what happened in 70 ad is exactly what Daniel told us. AFTER the messiah is cut off. The PEOPLE of the PRINCE who is to come shall destroy the city and sanctuary.

The AOD happens after this event, There must be a temple for an AOD to take place. With no temple. You can not place an “unclean thing (abomination) in a holy place rendering it desolate (Of Desolation)
Daniel in Chapter 12, also told us, when Daily Sacrifice ends that Desolation = Meaning what once was here is no longer here but in this situation, it's an Abomination = takes place.
 
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vs 11 is future

The abomination fo desolation is what takes the sacrifice away
Once again my friend. Learn what an abomination of desolation is.

It did not happen in 70 AD
 
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Daniel in Chapter 12, also told us, when Daily Sacrifice ends that Desolation = Meaning what once was here is no longer here but in this situation, it's an Abomination = takes place.
Once again. You need to learn what an abomination of desolation that takes place is.

The word abomination means an unclean thing, an idol. a thing that makes desolate.

It is placed in the holy place.

Jesus said when you see the abomination of desolation spoken of by daniel the prophet STANDING IN THE HOLY PLACE

15 “Therefore when you see the ‘abomination of desolation,’ spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place” (whoever reads, let him understand)

1. There must be a holy place for it to stand.
2. There must be a way for all people to see it standing there

Non of this happened in 70 AD

He also said it would immediately precede the great tribulation.

16 “then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. 17 Let him who is on the housetop not go down to take anything out of his house. 18 And let him who is in the field not go back to get his clothes. 19 But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! 20 And pray that your flight may not be in winter or on the Sabbath. 21 For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be.


This period will end with the return of Christ himself. because if he did not return no flesh would survive

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unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved; but for the [c]elect’s sake those days will be shortened.

It will be shorted by his return

29 “Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His [d]elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

This is all future. None of it happened in ad 70 My friend

in Matt 24, Jesus is speaking about the events starting in 70 and continuing up until he returns AFTER the great tribulation. You must put it all in perspective and context.
 
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vs 11 is future

The abomination fo desolation is what takes the sacrifice away
Once again my friend. Learn what an abomination of desolation is.

It did not happen in 70 AD
is the Daily Sacrifice still being offered in the Temple for the Jew's SINS?
 
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Once again. You need to learn what an abomination of desolation that takes place is.

The word abomination means an unclean thing, an idol. a thing that makes desolate.

It is placed in the holy place.

Jesus said when you see the abomination of desolation spoken of by daniel the prophet STANDING IN THE HOLY PLACE

15 “Therefore when you see the ‘abomination of desolation,’ spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place” (whoever reads, let him understand)

1. There must be a holy place for it to stand.
2. There must be a way for all people to see it standing there

Non of this happened in 70 AD

He also said it would immediately precede the great tribulation.

16 “then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. 17 Let him who is on the housetop not go down to take anything out of his house. 18 And let him who is in the field not go back to get his clothes. 19 But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! 20 And pray that your flight may not be in winter or on the Sabbath. 21 For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be.


This period will end with the return of Christ himself. because if he did not return no flesh would survive

22 And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved; but for the [c]elect’s sake those days will be shortened.

It will be shorted by his return

29 “Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His [d]elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

This is all future. None of it happened in ad 70 My friend

in Matt 24, Jesus is speaking about the events starting in 70 and continuing up until he returns AFTER the great tribulation. You must put it all in perspective and context.
I only said First Portion of Matthew 24 was Past and Fulfilled!!
 
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is the Daily Sacrifice still being offered in the Temple for the Jew's SINS?
today no, there is no temple to offer sacrifice.. or to place an abomination of desolation in the holy place.

but there WILL BE

did the people of judea see an abomination of desolation STANDING in the holy place in 70 AD?

The temple was destroyed in 70 AD. an abomination of desolation is an unclean thing placed inside the holy place rendering it unclean CAUSING sacrifice and burnt offering to cease in a STANDING building

we have historical example when antiochus epiphanies slaughtered a pig in the holy place. causeing sacrifice and burnt offering to cease.

The temple STILL STOOD. it was not destroyed. It was the same temple destroyed in 70 AD
 
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I only said First Portion of Matthew 24 was Past and Fulfilled!!
You talking about the AOD

lets stick to the topic my friend. I put the AOD in context with that quote. Funny how you just ignored it
 
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today no, there is no temple to offer sacrifice.. or to place an abomination of desolation in the holy place.

but there WILL BE

did the people of judea see an abomination of desolation STANDING in the holy place in 70 AD?

The temple was destroyed in 70 AD. an abomination of desolation is an unclean thing placed inside the holy place rendering it unclean CAUSING sacrifice and burnt offering to cease in a STANDING building

we have historical example when antiochus epiphanies slaughtered a pig in the holy place. causeing sacrifice and burnt offering to cease.

The temple STILL STOOD. it was not destroyed. It was the same temple destroyed in 70 AD
God designed a System that included Daily Sacrifice for SIN removal.
The Absence of that Popitiation is an Abomination of Desolation
 
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You talking about the AOD

lets stick to the topic my friend. I put the AOD in context with that quote. Funny how you just ignored it
You did no such thing.
Your own explanation, reads, like you don't know for yourself, but this is how you were taught, and it has to be right!!
 
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You did no such thing.
Your own explanation, reads, like you don't know for yourself, but this is how you were taught, and it has to be right!!
Once again. You need to learn what an abomination of desolation that takes place is.

The word abomination means an unclean thing, an idol. a thing that makes desolate.

It is placed in the holy place.

Jesus said when you see the abomination of desolation spoken of by daniel the prophet STANDING IN THE HOLY PLACE

15 “Therefore when you see the ‘abomination of desolation,’ spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place” (whoever reads, let him understand)

1. There must be a holy place for it to stand.
2. There must be a way for all people to see it standing there

Non of this happened in 70 AD

He also said it would immediately precede the great tribulation.

16 “then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. 17 Let him who is on the housetop not go down to take anything out of his house. 18 And let him who is in the field not go back to get his clothes. 19 But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! 20 And pray that your flight may not be in winter or on the Sabbath. 21 For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be.


This period will end with the return of Christ himself. because if he did not return no flesh would survive

22 And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved; but for the [c]elect’s sake those days will be shortened.

It will be shorted by his return

29 “Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His [d]elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

This is all future. None of it happened in ad 70 My friend

in Matt 24, Jesus is speaking about the events starting in 70 and continuing up until he returns AFTER the great tribulation. You must put it all in perspective and context.
You sire have a serious reading comprehenstion problem.

You have also now made an accusation which is not true. I did exactly what I claimed to do. "talk about the AOD" and here is your proof

Your final thaoughts are just a strawman. Because they do not support your view. and if anything is YOUR PROBLEM.

But I will not go there, I will just stick with the facts.
 
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God designed a System that included Daily Sacrifice for SIN removal.
The Absence of that Popitiation is an Abomination of Desolation
Nope. that is not what an abomination of desolation is at all

once again.

an abomination is an UNCLEAN THING, and IDOL. a detestable thing etc etc.

It does not mean TO TEAR DOWN OR DESTROY.

It is what causes desolation.
 
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You sire have a serious reading comprehenstion problem.

You have also now made an accusation which is not true. I did exactly what I claimed to do. "talk about the AOD" and here is your proof

Your final thaoughts are just a strawman. Because they do not support your view. and if anything is YOUR PROBLEM.

But I will not go there, I will just stick with the facts.
No, what You do not GET, is this is TWO-FOLD!

1) Destruction of Temple and End of Daily Sacrifice [70 A.D]

2) The Future Temple and the Abomination of the Act that happens while sitting upon God's Throne and Claiming he is God


When a Prophecy is Legit Legit, it will have Two-Folded Meanings!
 
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Nope. that is not what an abomination of desolation is at all

once again.

an abomination is an UNCLEAN THING, and IDOL. a detestable thing etc etc.

It does not mean TO TEAR DOWN OR DESTROY.

It is what causes desolation.
But it is the Abomination [[of]] DESOLATION!

What is Desolation?

a state of complete emptiness or destruction. [just like Daily Sacrifice is in the State of...Desolation (emptiness/destruction)]

So, the Abomination is the [[Abomination of Emptiness or Destruction]]!!


Which HAS NOTHING to do with the Antichrist/Beast, but to do with the Absence of DAILY SACRIFICE!!
 
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But it is the Abomination [[of]] DESOLATION!

What is Desolation?

a state of complete emptiness or destruction. [just like Daily Sacrifice is in the State of...Desolation (emptiness/destruction)]

So, the Abomination is the [[Abomination of Emptiness or Destruction]]!!


Which HAS NOTHING to do with the Antichrist/Beast, but to do with the Absence of DAILY SACRIFICE!!
lol

So you IGNORE the abomination and what it means

thats called making the word fir yout interpretation.

Not using the interpretation to form you belief

When antiochus epiphanies slaughtered the pig in the holy place. It became desolate. It was completely EMPTY.

It was not just desolate. it was the abomination that made it desolate
 
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No, what You do not GET, is this is TWO-FOLD!

1) Destruction of Temple and End of Daily Sacrifice [70 A.D]

2) The Future Temple and the Abomination of the Act that happens while sitting upon God's Throne and Claiming he is God


When a Prophecy is Legit Legit, it will have Two-Folded Meanings!
there is no two fold meaning

there is one meaning, two events

There are two events which are not the same. as of now separated by almost 2000 years.
 
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lol

So you IGNORE the abomination and what it means

No Verse,

11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up:

Verse 11 says WHEN the Daily Sacrifice Ends, the Abomination of the Daily Sacrifice Ending, ((makes)) Desolation [which is Emptiness/Destruction]

And No Temple = the Abomination of No Daily Sacrifice = in the Place where Daily Sacrifice took place is NOW DESOLATE!!
 
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there is no two fold meaning

there is one meaning, two events

There are two events which are not the same. as of now separated by almost 2000 years.
First of All, the Destruction of Jerusalem by Rome was FAR from the Worst Tribulation ever Experienced. So we know after Christ tells us the Temple will be Destroyed and Daniel will be Fulfilled, Christ then tells us about the Tribulation UNLIKE ever before and ever will be. That is where we are NOW!!
 
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Verse 11 happens same time:
11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up:

As SOON as Daily Sacrifice Ended, Abomination of Desolation took its place.
 
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No Verse,

11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up:

Verse 11 says WHEN the Daily Sacrifice Ends, the Abomination of the Daily Sacrifice Ending, ((makes)) Desolation [which is Emptiness/Destruction]

And No Temple = the Abomination of No Daily Sacrifice = in the Place where Daily Sacrifice took place is NOW DESOLATE!!
11 “And from the time that the daily sacrifice is taken away, and the abomination of desolation is set up, there shall be one thousand two hundred and ninety days. 12 Blessed is he who waits, and comes to the one thousand three hundred and thirty-five days.

ABOMINATION IS SET UP.

Just like matt 24. where Jesus said it will be standing (set up)

15 “Therefore when you see the ‘abomination of desolation,’ spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place” (whoever reads, let him understand),


You set up an IDOL in the holy place. Just like jesus said

if there is no temple. there is no AOD.

Sorry bro. Your wrong here. You do not set up a temple that is tore down.
 
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Verse 11 happens same time:
11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up:

As SOON as Daily Sacrifice Ended, Abomination of Desolation took its place.
THE DAILY SACRIFICES END WHEN THE ABOMINATION TAKES PLACE.

come on man. It did not happen in 70 AD. Open your eyes and look

You can not place an abomination so that it stands up in a holy place in a temple that is physically destoryed and is no longer in existence

Once again. No temple. No AOD.

period.
 
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