Vaccination?

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.

If a Christian gets vaccinated for the covid Is this a lack of faith?

  • Getting the vaccination means the Christian lacks faith.

  • Getting the vaccination demonstrates love thy neighbor.

  • Other,I will explain.


Results are only viewable after voting.
Status
Not open for further replies.
Aug 2, 2021
7,317
2,046
113
Scientist Whose Wife Was Injured by COVID Vaccine Tells FDA: ‘Please Do Not Give This to Kids’
Brian Dressen, Ph.D., who is a chemist with an extensive background in researching and assessing the degree of efficacy in new technologies, told the U.S. Food and Drug Administration Pfizer’s vaccine “failed any reasonable risk-benefit calculus in connection with children.”


They don't care.

And the 2 or 3 that DID care resigned a couple of weeks ago, rather than be complicit in murder.
All, and i mean all of them, who willfully violate the Nuremberg Code should be tried in public and when found guilty - they all should be given a vaxx jabb per week until it consumes them.
 
Aug 2, 2021
7,317
2,046
113
I believe the reason is that there were many placebos given.

People don't know that the experimental trial doesn't end until 2023 the EARLIEST.

EVERYONE who takes this shot, whether they know it or not, are participating in a massive, global experiment.
The Placebos are a main element of the Plandemic - by giving more placebos then the real death vaxx you indoctrinate billions of people into thinking that it is actually working and they line up for jabbs #3, #4, #5 and by then you have 70% or more of the world population on the Road of No Return.
 
Aug 2, 2021
7,317
2,046
113
Freedom! Natural immunity, no mask mandates, living live normal...
BUT, BUT you asking people to actually be responsible for their own health.

Is it not easier to believe a falsehood and take all 5, and even more vaxx jabbs.
 

TMS

Senior Member
Mar 21, 2015
3,555
1,057
113
Australia
Satan is winning because it has divided us (No jab - no .......)
Real freedom would give everyone the privacy and acceptance with whatever they choose for themselves.
 
Aug 2, 2021
7,317
2,046
113
Satan is winning because it has divided us (No jab - no .......)
Real freedom would give everyone the privacy and acceptance with whatever they choose for themselves.
Satan is not winning, mankind who submits to his lies are losing - see Matthew 25:41

The Disciples of Christ who walked with Him, witnessed all the miracles and Life Giving Words of Christ, then His Death and His Resurrection were told, after 40 days of being with the resurrected Messiah - they were told not to go preach.

Do you know why???
 
Dec 9, 2011
13,715
1,723
113
Satan is not winning, mankind who submits to his lies are losing - see Matthew 25:41

The Disciples of Christ who walked with Him, witnessed all the miracles and Life Giving Words of Christ, then His Death and His Resurrection were told, after 40 days of being with the resurrected Messiah - they were told not to go preach.

Do you know why???
If a person doesn’t obey those who are ministers for GOD for our good are they helping satan to win?
 
Aug 2, 2021
7,317
2,046
113
If a person doesn’t obey those who are ministers for GOD for our good are they helping satan to win?
You misquote Romans 13 - Better go read it again and keep reading it until the Light from Heaven gives you understanding.
 
Jul 23, 2018
12,199
2,775
113
It's all part of a master plan. Get people so fed up with the sins of the left, that they blindly flock to the right and accept the deceptions there that lead them away from God's truth.
Your problem is not everyone is decieved like you
 
Jun 9, 2021
1,871
425
83
Does the vaccine provide better Immunity than natural Immunity?


COVID-19 natural immunity versus vaccination

twitterfacebook
Breadcrumb
Home Coronavirus (COVID-19) COVID-19 natural immunity versus vaccination
Published September 20, 2021

If you've had COVID-19 before, does your natural immunity work better than a vaccine?
The data is clear: Natural immunity is not better. The COVID-19 vaccines create more effective and longer-lasting immunity than natural immunity from infection.
  • More than a third of COVID-19 infections result in zero protective antibodies
  • Natural immunity fades faster than vaccine immunity
  • Natural immunity alone is less than half as effective than natural immunity plus vaccination
The takeaway: Get vaccinated, even if you've had COVID-19. Vaccine immunity is stronger than natural immunity.
"Natural immunity can be spotty. Some people can react vigorously and get a great antibody response. Other people don't get such a great response," says infectious diseases expert Mark Rupp, MD. "Clearly, vaccine-induced immunity is more standardized and can be longer-lasting."
A third of infections don't get any protective antibodies
Some people who get COVID-19 receive no protection from reinfection – their natural immunity is nonexistent. A recent study found that 36% of COVID-19 cases didn't result in development of SARS-CoV-2 antibodies. The people had different levels of illness – most had moderate disease, but some were asymptomatic and some experienced severe COVID-19.
"Vaccine-induced immunity is more predictable than natural immunity," says Dr. Rupp. The COVID-19 vaccines provide great protection from severe disease, hospitalization and death.
Natural immunity fades more quickly than vaccine immunity
Natural immunity can decay within about 90 days. Immunity from COVID-19 vaccines has been shown to last longer. Both Pfizer and Moderna reported strong vaccine protection for at least six months.
Studies are ongoing to evaluate the full duration of protective immunity, including the Johnson & Johnson vaccine.
Real-world studies also indicate natural immunity's short life. For example, 65% of people with a lower baseline antibody from infection to begin with completely lost their COVID-19 antibodies by 60 days.
What about that Israeli study suggesting natural immunity is stronger? Infectious diseases expert James Lawler, MD, MPH, FIDSA, carefully evaluates the study design of the retrospective Maccabi Health System study in his Aug. 31 briefing. In the briefing, he identifies two concerning sources of error that were not corrected for: survivorship bias and selection bias.
Natural immunity alone is weak
One study compared natural immunity alone to natural immunity plus vaccination. They found that, after infection, unvaccinated people are 2.34 times likelier to get COVID-19 again, compared to fully vaccinated people. So vaccinated people (after infection) have half the risk of reinfection than people relying on natural immunity alone.
"Studies show that the vaccine gives a very good booster response if you've had COVID-19 before," says Dr. Rupp.
Furthermore, there is no country on the globe in which natural infection and natural immunity has brought the pandemic under control. In countries like Iran or Brazil very high levels of natural infection have not prevented recurrent waves of infection.
How soon after COVID-19 to get vaccinated
How soon is too soon to get vaccinated after you're sick with COVID-19? If you're no longer sick and out of isolation, you should get vaccinated.
We recommend that people with post-COVID syndrome (long haulers) should get the vaccine as well. There are some reports of people with post-COVID syndrome experiencing marked improvement in symptoms following vaccination.
Are vaccine adverse reactions more common after infection?
Those with prior infection tend to have more systemic (and short-lived) side effects after vaccination. One study shows that the likelihood of fatigue, headache, chills and other systemic side effects increases for people who have had COVID-19 infection in the past. These side effects show that the vaccine is working and resolve in a day or two days.
There's nothing to suggest that people who have had COVID-19 before are at greater risk for more serious adverse events. Serious adverse events after COVID-19 vaccination remain extraordinarily rare. You are much, much more likely to have an adverse reaction to COVID-19 (the disease) like hospitalization or death than you are from any of the COVID-19 vaccines.
Schedule your COVID-19 vaccine
The Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine recently received full FDA approval. Get vaccinated today.
Related stories:
I have posted this myself a Couple of times because it is an INDEPENDENT Study, not related to CDC, but only to the State of Nebraska.

I believe in their findings, although, I think the 2nd Batch of Vaccines is contaminated when compared to the Original Batch!!
 
Jun 9, 2021
1,871
425
83
The Placebos are a main element of the Plandemic - by giving more placebos then the real death vaxx you indoctrinate billions of people into thinking that it is actually working and they line up for jabbs #3, #4, #5 and by then you have 70% or more of the world population on the Road of No Return.
I know the term, Placebo, is being tossed around, but let's examine this from LUCY's Viewpoint of World Wide Planning for Control.

If, and it just has to be IF for now, the Wealthy and World Leaders Planned a Global Pandemic using a Lab Created Weapon, they also would have Created the Anecdote for the Leaders and Wealthy themselves. So, rather than thinking in terms of added Placebos, think on terms of Anecdote, and you can clearly see why AFTER May/June these sudden Vax related Deaths, Side Effects, and now this 2nd Batch attracts Covid more than repels it.

I use anecdote rather than placebo, because the first Batch was created with the Weapon, and why we see those first Billions Vaxxed with no issues like the next 3 Billion with the 2nd Batch.
 
Jun 9, 2021
1,871
425
83
BUT, BUT you asking people to actually be responsible for their own health.

Is it not easier to believe a falsehood and take all 5, and even more vaxx jabbs.
The Fact is, THIS IS A LAB CREATED WEAPON!

So, all of us who think we had it, but either had NO issues, SOME Issues, or Multiple Issues...as a WEAPON, it still did PERMANENT DAMAGE to the Areas it was able to Attack.

It's a WEAPON!

Natural Immunity or Not, this WEAPON leaves perma Damage!

The Areas Affected will NEVER be as Good as they once where!

Why?

We were ATTACKED by a Created WEAPON!!
 

John146

Senior Member
Jan 13, 2016
16,614
3,529
113
The Fact is, THIS IS A LAB CREATED WEAPON!

So, all of us who think we had it, but either had NO issues, SOME Issues, or Multiple Issues...as a WEAPON, it still did PERMANENT DAMAGE to the Areas it was able to Attack.

It's a WEAPON!

Natural Immunity or Not, this WEAPON leaves perma Damage!

The Areas Affected will NEVER be as Good as they once where!

Why?

We were ATTACKED by a Created WEAPON!!
And the same people who funded this created weapon also funded the shot to "oppose" this attack. Think about that!
 
Jun 9, 2021
1,871
425
83
And the same people who funded this created weapon also funded the shot to "oppose" this attack. Think about that!
And what is even Crazier, the Leaders and Wealthy [[waited]] for this Weapon to be unleashed and made contact with it BEFORE getting Vaxxed with the Anecdote.

They ALLOWED themselves to be Infected, FIRST, before getting VAXXED!!

So, that was the Sequence of Events necessary to Combat this!
 
Status
Not open for further replies.