Vaccination?

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If a Christian gets vaccinated for the covid Is this a lack of faith?

  • Getting the vaccination means the Christian lacks faith.

  • Getting the vaccination demonstrates love thy neighbor.

  • Other,I will explain.


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Nehemiah6

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Pharmaceutical giant Pfizer requested emergency authorization Tuesday for Paxlovid, a five-day antiviral pill regimen the company found to reduce the risk of hospitalization or death by 89 percent.
First of all there is no "emergency" so that is already a scam. And this is supposed to soothe everyone and applaud Pfizer? Pfizer is simply making HUGE PROFITS from the Scamdemic, and this is another example. Cheap and effective HCQ, the HCQ combo pack, ivermectin, etc. have all been blackballed and sabotaged by the medical establishment so that Pfizer can make billions and send a few million to the co-conspirators for helping them plunder and pillage the public. Japan had stopped all vaccines and turned to ivermectin and has had phenomenal results. So did the province of Uttar Pradesh in India (perhaps others).
 

kinda

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First of all there is no "emergency" so that is already a scam. And this is supposed to soothe everyone and applaud Pfizer? Pfizer is simply making HUGE PROFITS from the Scamdemic, and this is another example. Cheap and effective HCQ, the HCQ combo pack, ivermectin, etc. have all been blackballed and sabotaged by the medical establishment so that Pfizer can make billions and send a few million to the co-conspirators for helping them plunder and pillage the public. Japan had stopped all vaccines and turned to ivermectin and has had phenomenal results. So did the province of Uttar Pradesh in India (perhaps others).
Alex Jones pretty much covered everything you just posted, including the Pfizer pills that are coming. Nobody has seemed to talk about those pills, so that's why I posted it.

You hear they are putting Tromethamine in the vaccine yet?
 
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No. They want them to wear masks regardless of being vaccinated. Do you see the scam?
I see what you are talking about companies making money continuously selling mask but hopefully those that still catch covid that Are vaccinated will be minuscule.
 

kinda

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Comparing the Covid-19 vaccines developed by Pfizer, Moderna, and Johnson & Johnson

Vaccine types

The Pfizer and Moderna vaccines are made using messenger RNA, or mRNA, a technology that delivers a bit of genetic code to cells — in effect, a recipe to make the surface protein (known as spike) on the SARS-2 virus. The proteins made with the mRNA instructions activate the immune system, teaching it to see the spike protein as foreign and develop antibodies and other immunity weapons with which to fight it.

The J&J vaccine uses a different approach to instruct human cells to make the SARS-2 spike protein, which then triggers an immune response. It is what’s known as a viral vectored vaccine. A harmless adenovirus — from a large family of viruses, some of which cause common colds — has been engineered to carry the genetic code for the SARS-2 spike protein. Once the adenovirus enters cells, they use that code to make spike proteins. J&J employed this same approach to make an Ebola vaccine that has been authorized for use by the European Medicines Agency.



https://www.statnews.com/2021/02/02...eloped-by-pfizer-moderna-and-johnson-johnson/


Looks like the J&J shot is a little different, but all make spike proteins. With that said...


 

Nehemiah6

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hopefully those that still catch covid that Are vaccinated will be minuscule
1. The masks were ALWAYS useless. Tiny virus particles go right through.
2. They were meant to muzzle the sheeple so that no one would reject this nonsense, and people would lose their freedoms. This was PYSCHOLOGICAL WARFARE.
3. If the vaccines were genuine, they would produce real immunity, which they do not do.
4. The proof that the vaccines are lethal is in the official numbers published by health agencies. This is BIOLOGICAL WARFARE.
5. Therefore the so-called vaccines are better bio-weapons than coronavirus itself.
6. The spike proteins are destroying immune systems, and actually making people sick.
 

Nehemiah6

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Thousands march in New York City against COVID vaccine mandate
Thousands of New Yorkers marched through the city on Saturday to protest mandatory COVID-19 vaccinations, joining millions of others around the planet who also took to the streets as part of a “World Wide Rally For Freedom” in opposition to global medical tyranny.

Chanting “We the people will not comply!” they carried American and Gadsden (“Don’t tread on me”) flags, and signs and banners expressing heartfelt messages:
  • Medical choice is a human right
  • Mandates are unethical & unscientific
  • Let My Dad Work 
  • Truth is treason in an empire of lies
  • I am informed, I do not consent
  • I choose natural immunity 
  • Medical freedom now 
  • Want to live in a free country or not?
  • Stop the mandate before it’s too late!
  • I am one of the 80 million and I will never comply
  • Airline crew will not comply
  • The real virus is communism 
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/t...mandate/?utm_source=top_news&utm_campaign=usa

While millions are protesting worldwide, a handful of COVID tyrants are simply ignoring them. So the solution is really a military one -- swift elimination of the criminals by whatever means they see fit. The courts will do nothing to uphold the guaranteed constitutional freedoms. The militaries are supposedly there to protect citizens from domestic enemies (as much as foreign enemies).
 

gb9

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First of all i am not what you call a liberal!
Second you dont read what i wrote.
Third You are not realy realize the facts.
If you are staying at home and dont leave your house you have probably low risk.
But you forget to count the untestet positiv people from whom nobody knows they have it. This number is double or three times of the testet positiv people.
Btw today are 2,2% of the icu bed's in germany are free!!!
We have 3 000 000 unvaccined people older then 60 years old.
The antibodys of the oldage people which were vaccined first going down.
And we are just in the beginning of the winter time.
my response-

don't have socialized medicine.

that is what socialized healthcare is- not enough.
 

Gideon300

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that is very flawed reasoning on your part

1. you seem to think people need to be convinced of what you believe while telling them you don't care what they believe. how's that working?

2. your very dismissive nothing will convince me, is simply a straw man argument since it is you that apparently needs to be convinced of the facts that have been presented regularly in this thread

3. since folks that have been double vaxxed can still catch and spread covid, your presumption that only those who have not had the vial of whatever are passing it on, is ridiculous but fits in with your narrative so you use it

4. myself and others have posted information, factual, about these drug companies that clearly show their very poor record of fudging results and even paying off researchers to hide negative results and you never address that. you gloss over anything that does not have your personal narrative which indicates you are not trying to be factual, but you are instead defending your own decisions

5. that being the case, why don't you stop trying to prove the facts wrong and just be at peace with your own choices since the evidence for harm and malpractice of the drug companies is overwhelming

6. this is not and never was about what I consider evidence presented by yourself....especially since you have nothing to back up what you say and I have provided proof of what I say...you constantly attempt to engage me in a personal manner....such as saying sick people cannot convince me therefore nothing will. apparently, you cannot understand that this is not about you personally
When I start seeing facts from the conspiracy theorists, I will agree to them. I don't take any of this personally. I could care less what people do and think as individuals. I do care that some people might be swayed by false and misleading information and so make bad decisions.

I had hoped that at least some people would see that they have been conned by the conspiracy theorists. I was wrong. So my comments are directed towards those who have an open mind on the issue.
 

RolloTamasi

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When I start seeing facts from the conspiracy theorists, I will agree to them. I don't take any of this personally. I could care less what people do and think as individuals. I do care that some people might be swayed by false and misleading information and so make bad decisions.

I had hoped that at least some people would see that they have been conned by the conspiracy theorists. I was wrong. So my comments are directed towards those who have an open mind on the issue.
I think it would be good if we shared the love of Jesus with others instead of bickering about viruses.
 

Gideon300

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Is It true that those who have been fully vaccinated don't have to wear a mask?
It depends on local regulations. Where I am, mask wearing is required in confined areas such as public transport and retail stores. That includes the vaccinated. It is an annoyance, but no one I know has died from wearing a mask. And it is possible to get medical exemptions.
 

Gideon300

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I think it would be good if we shared the love of Jesus with others instead of bickering about viruses.
I'm not concerned with the virus issue. I'm much concerned with the lack of objectivity and the willingness of some people to believe anything but the facts.
 

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I'm not concerned with the virus issue. I'm much concerned with the lack of objectivity and the willingness of some people to believe anything but the facts.
The facts, I want the facts.
I need to reason this out.
Give me the facts!!!
 

gb9

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I'm not concerned with the virus issue. I'm much concerned with the lack of objectivity and the willingness of some people to believe anything but the facts.

you should be concerned that your government is putting people in concentration camps....
 

Gideon300

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The facts, I want the facts.
I need to reason this out.
Give me the facts!!!
Fact: Australia closed the country to most people. Even then, a traveler introduced the Delta variant.

Fact. Just under 2,000 Australians have died from COVID since the pandemic began. Population of Australia: 26 million.
Fact. 773, 000 Americans have died from COVID. Population of the US: 333 million.

Australia's population is less than 10% of the US. On a world wide basis, Australia's death rate is about 10 times lower compared to its population. This suggests that strict quarantine measures and high vaccination rates are working.

https://www.health.gov.au/initiativ...s-it-true-are-covid-19-vaccines-not-effective
https://www.theguardian.com/society...ated-what-is-behind-the-australian-statistics
https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/global-confirmed-covid-deaths-surpass-five-million
 

gb9

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Fact: Australia closed the country to most people. Even then, a traveler introduced the Delta variant.

Fact. Just under 2,000 Australians have died from COVID since the pandemic began. Population of Australia: 26 million.
Fact. 773, 000 Americans have died from COVID. Population of the US: 333 million.

Australia's population is less than 10% of the US. On a world wide basis, Australia's death rate is about 10 times lower compared to its population. This suggests that strict quarantine measures and high vaccination rates are working.

https://www.health.gov.au/initiativ...s-it-true-are-covid-19-vaccines-not-effective
https://www.theguardian.com/society...ated-what-is-behind-the-australian-statistics
https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/global-confirmed-covid-deaths-surpass-five-million
your country is putting people in concentration camps.
 

Gideon300

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your country is putting people in concentration camps.
It's quarantine, for 2 weeks at most. There is nothing new or sinister about this. No one likes it. People are not forced to come to Australia so they are not compelled to quarantine.

Your response is typical of the exaggerated and misleading rubbish spouted routinely by conspiracy theorists. Quarantine has been method of disease control since at least the 14th century when the plague was rife. You think it's a problem now? Consider passengers on a ship who have no choice but to stay in a plague ridden ship until everyone dies or recovers. And with no treatment.

Isolation of lepers goes back to Old Testament times. God initiated quarantine, just a little different from what we have now. Got Questions has this to say:

"Incurable by man, many believed God inflicted the curse of leprosy upon people for the sins they committed. In fact, those with leprosy were so despised and loathed that they were not allowed to live in any community with their own people (Numbers 5:2). Among the sixty-one defilements of ancient Jewish laws, leprosy was second only to a dead body in seriousness. A leper wasn’t allowed to come within six feet of any other human, including his own family. The disease was considered so revolting that the leper wasn’t permitted to come within 150 feet of anyone when the wind was blowing. Lepers lived in a community with other lepers until they either got better or died. This was the only way the people knew to contain the spread of the contagious forms of leprosy."

Leprosy is curable now.
 
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