Vaccination?

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If a Christian gets vaccinated for the covid Is this a lack of faith?

  • Getting the vaccination means the Christian lacks faith.

  • Getting the vaccination demonstrates love thy neighbor.

  • Other,I will explain.


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Aidan1

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The scam continues.... the "vaccine" is not a vaccine, it is an experimental gene altering compound intended to depopulate.
You have no idea about vaccines. And special not about the vaccine against Covid. Instead your are spreading false Informations.
 
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Brother...
I love my children and grandchildren deeply , but I will not take the shot , does that mean I love them any less ?
I have to disagree with you on that one...
...xox...
It does not mean you have too
but if you die and did not take the shot??
I know a few people who regretted not taking the shot. When they changed their mind it was too late.
 

Aidan1

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"Vaccine is vaccine "---- So they are all the same..... any "vaccine" will protect against any illness..... i'm back to thinking you are a custodian.......
If you would have ab idea about Mikrobiologie you would consider, that some kinds of viruses have a high ability to change and mutate. Like the flu, thats why you need to need a yearly shot and still you cant be shure it will fit the Dominant virus tribe. Would you say a vaccine against flu is also experimental?
I would say you trust the false sources. Which seems to me to very fanatic in trying toprrof that the vaccine is from the devil for to depopulate the mankind. Be shure the devil is not depent on this vaccine to reach this. If God would allow him to do this. Depopulation will come as Gods wrath about the godless life and unwillingness to turn to him. You will find this if you read the book of revealation.
 

ResidentAlien

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Yep, exhortations. Amen. And as scripture also reminds us those who 'fall' away where never of us (In Christ). Those who Christ has saved will persevere to the end. We are secure in what Christ has done.

Anyhow, this would be better having its own thread rather than we derail this one(y)
The reference to 1 John doesn't mean what many have thought. Those who left were in Christ (at least at one point), they just weren't committed like the rest of them. This passage has been very misunderstood.
 

PennEd

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It does not mean you have too
but if you die and did not take the shot??
I know a few people who regretted not taking the shot. When they changed their mind it was too late.
I’m thinking this woman, and thousands upon thousands of others who are relatively young and healthy, regret taking the gene therapy:

Kim Jarvis: 57-year-old West Virginia woman declares “I’m vaccinated but don’t know what’s in it,” dead less than 24 hours later
September 1, 2021

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CHARLESTON, WEST VIRGINIA — A 57-year-old West Virginia woman is dead after one of the strangest turn of events we’ve covered on this blog.

Mrs. Kim Jarvis declared on August 29, “I am vaccinated.” She did not clarify which injections she received, nor did she specify when she received the injections. A search through her Facebook posts from May 1 to August 29 revealed no further information. It frankly doesn’t matter which injection she received as all of them are equally lethal. But it’s the rest of her lengthy post that day that makes this story so bizarre.

She admitted that she doesn’t know what in the injections. Mrs. Jarvis continued, saying she also doesn’t know what’s in a Big Mac or hot dogs, but suggested she eats them anyway. Of course nobody really knows (beyond broad, ambiguous generalizations) what’s in the mRNA and viral vector DNA injections because all of the package inserts that are supposed to contain that information are blank. There are numerous videos of pharmacists opening the boxes of vials and revealing the blank inserts.


Mrs. Jarvis continued, saying she doesn’t know what’s in Tylenol, shampoo or tattoo ink. But she said she wants to travel and “protect us.” Mrs. Jarvis said she “trusted the science” for all other vaccines and “trusted [her] doctor” when he recommended the COVID-19 injections. Ironically she also said “life is very short.” Note: we’re told this post is “copypasta” and is apparently making the rounds on Facebook with many vaccine zealots.



Less than 24 hours later
Mrs. Jarvis, as she normally and frequently did, posted several bulletins about missing dogs in West Virginia on August 30. Her last post was at 7:17 p.m. local time. She apparently went to her daughter Heather’s house that night. Mrs. Jarvis told Heather “I love you” and “I’m so glad you’re home safe.” The next day, Heather posted an update. She said her mother “passed away unexpectedly in her sleep” that night, hours after she saw her.



Mrs. Jarvis was a die-hard supporter of the injections. She falsely compared the polio and smallpox vaccines to the current mRNA and viral vector DNA injections.



It took, at minimum, 16 years to develop a polio vaccine from the time President Franklin Roosevelt funded the research in 1938 until the first vaccines were administered in 1954 trials. The smallpox vaccine took at minimum 28 years from the time Dr. John Fewster theorized it and Dr. Edward Jenner administered the first shot in the United States. A “vaccine” is not developed in six months, as these current injections were.

Mrs. Jarvis took many subtle jabs (no pun intended) at the non-vaccinated. She was also a Christian. Yet she wondered why non-Christians mocked her faith.



Her daughter also mocked the non-vaccinated quite a bit.



Mrs. Jarvis was a paralegal by trade. But she was looking for work at the time of her death, according to her LinkedIn page. She is survived by her husband, daughter, son and at least one grandchild.
 

Hungry

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In Ontario, Canada, where I live, in a couple of weeks they are making it nearly impossible to live comfortably. They are issuing the passport system preventing non vaccinated people from going to restaurants and other public places. At home my wife is pressuring me so we can still do things together. Some businesses and schools that the company I work for accept vaccinated only people. I prayed about it all morning asking God to guide me. Then the first thread I saw when I opened CC was this one.

Here’s my apprehension. We are truly fantastically engineered. With the advances in technology, can they intentionally or unintentionally introduce glitches in our biological, neurological and reproductive systems? Absolutely they can and do. Children have been born without limbs from medicines mom was taking. That’s what medicine does. It hacks the chemical reactions in your mind and body. Best case scenario, we all just get a sore arm and an immediate passing reaction. Worst case scenario, Luciferians discovered a way to bio engineer a hack to interrupt the communication signal between God and man. We would be like a phone without a signal. God has designed for illnesses to thin the herd. Man has designed ways to prevent natural law. I choose God’s design. When it’s time to die, you die.
 

gb9

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You have no idea about vaccines. And special not about the vaccine against Covid. Instead your are spreading false Informations.
this coming from a person who has been presented with dozens of articles and stories about adverse reactions from the vax, and openly admits that he has not looked into any of them to see for himself
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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Oh no, not another thread about the vaccine! o_O
I don't think everyone does or doesn't do it for exactly the same reasons.


I think it's a bad idea to have the Covid vaccine & I'm not getting it. But I can't judge the heart of every Christian.
I'll leave that up to God.
 

TMS

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We should be free to choose for ourselves. Forcing us is what the devil dose.
We should investigate and make our own choice. Don't believe the media, and remember that the wisdom of man is foolishness.

1Co 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? 17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are. 18 Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise. 19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.
 

shittim

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IF we are truly His Own, we should seek and walk out HIS direction in what we do, in ALL things.
 

Aidan1

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this coming from a person who has been presented with dozens of articles and stories about adverse reactions from the vax, and openly admits that he has not looked into any of them to see for himself
Nowhere someone claimes that the vaccine has no sideeffects and protect 100% against Covid.
So of course the media is full of articles where people died and have sideeffects. But the multimillions which have no problems with the vaccine are not mentioned.
Vaccine the same number against polio or measeles and you will find also a number of sideeffects or dieing people.
Behind your view is an Ideologie. When I look at some people i would call them fanatic.
 

shittim

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"have no problems with the vaccine "

Have no problems YET........ The significance if the deaths and harm created so far is lost with that faulty reasoning.
 

Rosemaryx

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#53
It does not mean you have too
but if you die and did not take the shot??
I know a few people who regretted not taking the shot. When they changed their mind it was too late.
And there are people like my daughter who was very sick with covid , never got the shot , and is over it...
Then my sister in Ireland who got the shot a month ago , and is still very sick?

It has nothing to do with love , it is a personal choice for every person , and my conscience says no , while others say yes , but I still do not understand why you would say what you said about loving our kids and grandchildren...

What about those who have took the shot , mothers and fathers , that have died , and their children are orphans ?
...xox...
 

joshhuntnm

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Some believe that getting vaccinated for the covid shows fear and a lack of faith and some believe that since GOD Is almighty,getting the vaccine even If It kills them shows love for their neighbor protecting them from the covid and GOD will look at their motivation for getting the shot.JESUS died for us and love covers a multitude of sins.
My daddy used to say, we don't all see things alike. some things we need to agree to disagree on. for me, it is like any other medicine. I had covid after vaccine #1 and happily it was very mild.
 

Aidan1

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"have no problems with the vaccine "

Have no problems YET........ The significance if the deaths and harm created so far is lost with that faulty reasoning.
So, let see next year in this time, if the Lord has not returned before.
 

CherieR

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Other: There are different reasons one may take the vaccine. By asking an individual why they got their vaccine one can know the person’s motivation to get it . One person may get the vaccine for one reason and another person for a different reason.

I disagree with the idea that taking a vaccine is lack of faith.
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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You have no idea about vaccines. And special not about the vaccine against Covid. Instead your are spreading false Informations.
St Greta of the Climate Change Scammers claims that I don't understand ecology so I should shut up & let them manage the planet.
Many secular scientists say there is no God & I just don't understand physics.

I don't know a thing about building a car engine. That's why I have a mechanic. I do understand that if the vehicle doesn't start when I turn my key in the ignition the car isn't going anywhere.

I don't have to be an expert in every field to understand well when I am being scammed.

Maby you have it already without symptomes, like the most. And spreading it nicely to others, without knowing it?
This is sheer propaganda designed to spread fear and guilt. We've heard it in the media daily for over a year. It's not Chrisitan.
It's psychological manipulation.
 

gb9

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Nowhere someone claimes that the vaccine has no sideeffects and protect 100% against Covid.
So of course the media is full of articles where people died and have sideeffects. But the multimillions which have no problems with the vaccine are not mentioned.
Vaccine the same number against polio or measeles and you will find also a number of sideeffects or dieing people.
Behind your view is an Ideologie. When I look at some people i would call them fanatic.

well , let's see.

in my state of georgia ( u s ) , the survival rate for covid is 98.3%.

hospitalization rate is about 8%.

so, by your reasoning, i should take a vax that i would have a 50/50 chance of having a adverse reaction to, meanwhile there is a 98.3% chance i will survive covid, and a 92% chance of not going to hospital , and on top of that, right now our rate off infection is about 17%, so there is a 82% chance of testing negative if i got tested.


so, if if me using that data to make decisions is being fanatical , then so be it.
 
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And there are people like my daughter who was very sick with covid , never got the shot , and is over it...
Then my sister in Ireland who got the shot a month ago , and is still very sick?

It has nothing to do with love , it is a personal choice for every person , and my conscience says no , while others say yes , but I still do not understand why you would say what you said about loving our kids and grandchildren...

What about those who have took the shot , mothers and fathers , that have died , and their children are orphans ?
...xox...
I am not arguing sin. I am not pro or against the vaccine
I am against all the conspiracy theories. I have three people in my room trice who just got over covid. They all three decided to Get the shot too late. They are getting it as soon as possible. The one girl got it from her son who got it from school. Her whole family was seriously ill. Except her husband who got the vaccine. He never came down with it and took care of his family. My daughter due to all the anti van crap is afraid to get it. Due to her health. I do not think she would survive covid if she gets it.
if she dies because if all the anti vaccine crap I will be angry then. Really amgry

Every vaccine has side affects. You can take it and die. It may not even help you. But like one of the concervative anti vaccine guy from North Carolina said two days before he died from covid. Once you get it it is too late to get the shot

You do not want to
Get it (not talking to you but everyone) then don’t. But keep your anti vaccine propaganda to yourself. (Again not directed to you but all the conspiracy theorists). We should be Christians. Yet we are the worst offenders.