Vaccination?

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If a Christian gets vaccinated for the covid Is this a lack of faith?

  • Getting the vaccination means the Christian lacks faith.

  • Getting the vaccination demonstrates love thy neighbor.

  • Other,I will explain.


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gb9

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i do not support nor will i take the vax.

but, you people that are attacking other Christians , questioning their salvation and their relationship with God should stop doing so.

you are wrong for doing this.
 

JohnDB

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#82
One of the biggest markers for being a Christian is love for your fellow man over and above yourself.
It just is...

We care about abortions because it is taking of life.

Now taking a vaccine is caring about your fellow man because if you get vaccinated your chances of unwittingly spreading the virus are greatly reduced. (They just are)

I'm sure that if the pilgrims had known that they were going to infect and kill the natives they had the Thanksgiving feast with they never would have done so...they were there to proselytize them....not infect and kill them.

But such things happen and they didn't know or understand these things.... today we have no such excuse.
Love is not infecting others with a maiming and potentially lethal virus.
 

Gideon300

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#83
In the case of this vaccination propaganda time i wouldn't say christians lack faith
More not thinking for themselves and falling prey. Not seeing the signs and reading the bible. No awareness just blindly swimming with the flow. No caution and no awareness.
When the enemy comes to give his mark some day, the ppl who got the vaccine will be the first to take the mark too.
This isnt about a vaccine for a deadly illness. Its total control and moving towards NWO. Digitalising everything and knowing everything about everyone.
You would be wrong. I investigated the various vaccines as thoroughly as I could and prayed about it. I read up on the differing views and sorted fact from fiction. I've never come across so much rubbish spouted out of the mouths of people who claim to be Christian. OK, the flat earth people come close.

You are being tracked because you are on the internet. Street security cameras watch you. Some regions use facial recognition software. If you have a mobile phone, you are being watched. The vaccination is merely a health issue. I suggest all the paranoid people just get COVID and have done with it. You'll probably live. The person you give it to may not.

You cannot be traced via the vaccine. It is impossible to insert a marker that will allow it. I know enough about technology to say this with 100% confidence. While people are straining out the gnat of vaccination, they are swallowing the camel of laughable conspiracies. Such gullibility leaves them wide open to other, more subtle deceptions in the future.

Ditch the internet (bye bye), toss your smartphone, get a sleeping bag and go live in a cave.
 

Gideon300

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#84
I got mine and I am good. Want to be able to see my Dad who has cancer.

I would like to see on the other hand if they are doing all this for Covid why not do it for all the other things out there too. I mean if they care this much about Covid then they should also make all healthcare free.
The reality is there is no such thing as free. All this will be paid for, mostly by people who are not well off and who actually pay tax.
 

CS1

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#85
to get the vaccine or not to is between you God and your doctor FYI, some people have been told not to get the vaccine because of the current health. The vaccine doesn't heal COVID-19 it is only to slow the spread of it so people can die in a hospital instead of on the street. The Isolation and social distancing were never for STOOPING the COVID-19 only slow it and manage the effects of it.

The democrats and the left made it political. Trying to use the guilt trip and while not able to adhere to the rues themselves

Governor's from :

California
Michigan
New York
Illinois
Wisconsin
Oregon
Washington State

ALL took privileges they were denying you. They themselves or their families were exempt from the required CDC recommendations they made and Edict like making for us but not them. FYI they lied. NOW they are trying to see just how much they can get away with because of fear and emotional immaturity and false narrative. I have recovered fro COVID-19 many people I know have not , yet COVID-19 did not kill them fear and lying politics did
 

Icedaisey

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#86
Yep. And those who broke into congress chanting "hang Mike Pence" were just your typical tourists.

SMH. You know, the more Christians buy into conspiracy theories, the more Christianity looks like a conspiracy theory, right?
Wrong.
 

Icedaisey

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#87
this coming from a person who has been presented with dozens of articles and stories about adverse reactions from the vax, and openly admits that he has not looked into any of them to see for himself
Never underestimate people's fondness for goading. Such is at times what expounds on something they know nothing about.
 

Icedaisey

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#88
Moreover, if a Christian does anything to mitigate any of a multiplicities of dangers,
according to some here, you are not trusting God and have renounced your faith!!!


Where is the face/palm emoji??? :unsure:
 

CS1

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#89
One of the biggest markers for being a Christian is love for your fellow man over and above yourself.
It just is...

We care about abortions because it is taking of life.

Now taking a vaccine is caring about your fellow man because if you get vaccinated your chances of unwittingly spreading the virus are greatly reduced. (They just are)

I'm sure that if the pilgrims had known that they were going to infect and kill the natives they had the Thanksgiving feast with they never would have done so...they were there to proselytize them....not infect and kill them.

But such things happen and they didn't know or understand these things.... today we have no such excuse.
Love is not infecting others with a maiming and potentially lethal virus.
that is not true. The vaccine has nothing to do with the care of your fellow man, it is all about control, these same types who cried about COVID-19 have not life one finger to help Chicago. Your revisionist talking points of American history are false.
 

Aidan1

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#90
St Greta of the Climate Change Scammers claims that I don't understand ecology so I should shut up & let them manage the planet.
Many secular scientists say there is no God & I just don't understand physics.

I don't know a thing about building a car engine. That's why I have a mechanic. I do understand that if the vehicle doesn't start when I turn my key in the ignition the car isn't going anywhere.

I don't have to be an expert in every field to understand well when I am being scammed.



This is sheer propaganda designed to spread fear and guilt. We've heard it in the media daily for over a year. It's not Chrisitan.
It's psychological manipulation.
I agree, nobody can know everything in every subject. I seems to me that many which giving their statement about the vaccine dont know any thing about this issue, but copy the meaning of others without proofing.

I work as nurse for about 30 years in hospital.
How an infection chain is working and how to avoid infections you can read in every good healthbook.
What I postet has nothing to do with psycholocical Manipulation, it is proofed knowledge in the medicine.
That the vaccine against Covid is new, nobody denys. That it has its risks, also nobody denys. But to call it a devils Tool and those who gave the injections ( nurses and doctors) are the devils coworker is strong tobacco. And this only because of some strange theories.
As children of God we should trust more in God for help in this Pandemie then to spread fear and Rebellion against the goverments.
 

Icedaisey

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#91
People who get the flu shot still get the flu.
People who wear coats still freeze to death.
People who wear seat belts still die in car crashes.
Not everyone who says "Lord Lord" will enter into heaven.

So I guess all is lost and we shouldn't do anything to mitigate dangers because they aren't 100% perfect.
The type of fallacy that is expressed there escapes me at the moment.I'm sure it will come to me sooner or later. Likely later, if history is any indicator. :sneaky::giggle:
 

JTB

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#92
Moreover, if a Christian does anything to mitigate any of a multiplicities of dangers,
according to some here, you are not trusting God and have renounced your faith!!!


Where is the face/palm emoji??? :unsure:
implied-facepalm.jpg
 

Icedaisey

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#93
I think one thing that will help dispell the conflict that arises over this issue is for people so inclined to stop calling information a conspiracy. And those who share it , conspiracy theorists.

Covid-19 is a Conspiracy that originated in a Wuhan China lab. And was furthered by another conspiracy that arrived as a lockdown due to the Plandemic that stymied people's rights and liberties under the mask of necessity. And implanted the false objective behind it as a matter of national security.
While all that was mitigated by a phrase one would expect to find in the history of Soviet Russia; essential workers.

So there is a Conspiracy connected to the Plandemic that is relative to Covid-19.And it is not a theory.

While those opposed to information gathering and dispersal are committed to their own conspirational objective.
Disinformation doesn't save a nation. It sickens it.

Speak for Freedom no matter what. Because those who argue on behalf of shackles for the mind or the body will always be the enemy of liberty.

"There's such a thing as too much freedom." Republican 43rd American President George W. Bush
 

JTB

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#94
I agree, nobody can know everything in every subject. I seems to me that many which giving their statement about the vaccine dont know any thing about this issue, but copy the meaning of others without proofing.

I work as nurse for about 30 years in hospital.
How an infection chain is working and how to avoid infections you can read in every good healthbook.
What I postet has nothing to do with psycholocical Manipulation, it is proofed knowledge in the medicine.
That the vaccine against Covid is new, nobody denys. That it has its risks, also nobody denys. But to call it a devils Tool and those who gave the injections ( nurses and doctors) are the devils coworker is strong tobacco. And this only because of some strange theories.
As children of God we should trust more in God for help in this Pandemie then to spread fear and Rebellion against the goverments.
Actually, I get what some say about this being a government ploy to condition people to take the mark later on. And in part that is true.

But again, the question remains: If someone you don't trust tells you to do the right thing, do you not do the right thing?

Right now, doing the right thing means loving/protecting your neighbors, however imperfect that action may be. It goes back to my face mask/Genesis 18 meme - if it saves just one, we should do it.
 

JTB

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#95
The type of fallacy that is expressed there escapes me at the moment.I'm sure it will come to me sooner or later. Likely later, if history is any indicator. :sneaky::giggle:
The point is, many say since the mask and vax are not 100% effective, it's a waste of time/effort to do it at all.

To extrapolate that point, then it's also a waste of time to put on a coat, wear a seatbelt, or say "Lord Lord".
 

JTB

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#96
I think one thing that will help dispell the conflict that arises over this issue is for people so inclined to stop calling information a conspiracy. And those who share it , conspiracy theorists.

Covid-19 is a Conspiracy that originated in a Wuhan China lab. And was furthered by another conspiracy that arrived as a lockdown due to the Plandemic that stymied people's rights and liberties under the mask of necessity. And implanted the false objective behind it as a matter of national security.
While all that was mitigated by a phrase one would expect to find in the history of Soviet Russia; essential workers.

So there is a Conspiracy connected to the Plandemic that is relative to Covid-19.And it is not a theory.

While those opposed to information gathering and dispersal are committed to their own conspirational objective.
Disinformation doesn't save a nation. It sickens it.

Speak for Freedom no matter what. Because those who argue on behalf of shackles for the mind or the body will always be the enemy of liberty.

"There's such a thing as too much freedom." Republican 43rd American President George W. Bush
You're right, there is good evidence that this came out of Wuhan. One of those is how quickly it is mutating, something you would expect to come out of 'gain of function' experimentation. It's gaining function at an alarming rate. No conspiracy there.

So having released this pathogen, we are being told to take known mitigation actions to fight it. Assuming the release is true, why is it then a 'conspiracy' to be told how to fight it? The true conspiracy is saying those mitigating actions are pure 100% mind control. They are what we have and while not perfect they do help. So why is the cause not a conspiracy, but the response to it is?

Discernment... that is the key. Discernment tells us don't trust the government. But it also tells us, do what you can to save others. Even if it's not perfect.
 

Blik

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The virus is simply the result of not accepting our food as God created it. Our immune system is dependent on carbs, and all grins that are carbs are tampered with by men. Just as men are not to tamper with the word to add or take away from it, man is not to tamper with our food.

You can't even get a simple hamburger sandwich anywhere except one served on bread that has been so adjusted that only the white tasteless starch is left.

Science calls this diet the SAD diet, (Standard American Diet) and say it is sad that we eat this way. Even our cornmeal is process, taking out the germ. Oatmeal is processed making it instant oatmeal. You have to carefully read the ingredients of the bread we buy to get bread that is made of unprocessed grain. Brown bread is sometimes white bread with brown food coloring to make it brown.
 

ewq1938

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Nevertheless GOD looks at the heart and whether the vaccine works or not GOD will look at your motive,IOW did you get the shot just In case It DOES work because you wanted to protect your neighbor or were you not getting the shot because of fear of what the shot might do to You and not thinking that GOD IS ALMIGHTY and there Is no need to fear death because ALMIGHTY GOD IS greater than the virus?
love covers a multitude of sins.
Listen here buddy. I decide what goes into my body, not you or anyone else. I also don't go near my neighbors. Blame China for virus because they are responsible for it and anyone who gets sick and/or dies is their fault not those refuse to get shot.
 

ewq1938

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Maby you have it already without symptomes, like the most. And spreading it nicely to others, without knowing it?

People who had taken shots can still spread the virus, spreading it nicely to others without knowing it
 

ewq1938

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Oatmeal is processed making it instant oatmeal.
It's just partially cooked and then dried so the next cooking process doesn't take as long.
 
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