Vatican's challenge to Protestants. Bible truth vs. protestant theology

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Letter from the Roman Catholic Church

We all like to receive mail. Here is a letter from the Roman Catholic Church, originally published in America in 1869. The message was written to Protestants and is forceful and to the point, with lots of Scriptural proofs for its position.

I am going to propose a very plain and serious question to those who follow "the Bible and the Bible only" to give their most earnest attention. It is this: Why do you not keep holy the Sabbath Day?

The command of Almighty God stands clearly written in the Bible in these words: "Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labor, and do all thy work; but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord thy God; in it thou shalt not do any work" (Exodus xx. 8-10). And again, "Six days shall work be done; but on the seventh day there shall be unto you an holy day, a Sabbath of rest to the Lord; whosover doeth work therein shall be put to death" (Exodus xxxv. 2, 3).

How strict and precise is God’s commandment upon this head! [in this matter!] No work whatever was to be done on the day which He had chosen to set apart for Himself and to make holy. And, accordingly, when the children of Israel "found a man that gathered sticks upon the Sabbath day," "the Lord said unto Moses, The man shall surely be put to death; all the congregation shall stone him with stones without the camp" (Numbers xv. 32, 35). Such being God’s command, then I ask again: Why do you not obey it? Why do you not keep holy the Sabbath day?

You will answer me, perhaps, that you do keep holy the Sabbath day; for that you abstain from all worldly business and diligently go to church, and say your prayers, and read your Bible at home, every Sunday of your lives.

But Sunday is not the Sabbath day. Sunday is the first day of the week; the Sabbath day is the seventh day of the week. Almighty God did not give a commandment that men should keep holy one day in seven; but He named His own day, and said distinctly: ‘Thou shalt keep holy the seventh day,’ and He assigned a reason for choosing this day rather than any other—a reason which belongs only to the seventh day of the week, and cannot be applied to the rest. He says "For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day; wherefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it" [Exodus xx. 11].

Almighty God ordered that all men should rest from their labor on the seventh day, because He too had rested on that day; He did not rest on Sunday, but on Saturday. On Sunday, which is the first day of the week, He began the work of creation, He did not finish it [then]; it was on Saturday that He "ended His work which He had made; and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had made" (Genesis ii. 2). Nothing can be more plain and easy to understand than all this; and there is nobody who attempts to deny it; it is acknowledged by everybody that the day which Almighty God appointed to be kept holy was Saturday, not Sunday. Why do you then keep holy the Sunday, and not Saturday?

You will tell me that Saturday was the Jewish Sabbath [God gave the Bible Sabbath to mankind 2,000 years before the first Jew existed], but that the Christian Sabbath has been changed to Sunday; changed! but by whom? Who has authority to change an express commandment of Almighty God? When God has spoken and said, Thou shalt keep holy the seventh day, who shall dare to say, Nay, thou mayest work and do all manner of worldly business on the seventh day; but thou shalt keep holy the first day in its stead? This is a most important question, which I know not how you can answer.

You are a Protestant, and you profess to go by the Bible and Bible only; and yet in so important a matter as the observance of one day in seven as a holy day, you go against the plain letter of the Bible, and put another day in the place of that day which the Bible has commanded. The command to keep holy the seventh day is one of the Ten Commandments. You believe that the other nine are still binding; but who gave you authority to tamper with the fourth? If you are consistent with your own principles, if you really follow the Bible and the Bible only, you ought to be able to produce some portion of the New Testament in which this fourth commandment is expressly altered.

Let us see whether any such passages can be found. I will look for them in the writings of your own [Protestant] champions, who have attempted to defend your practice in this matter.

1. The first text which I find quoted upon the subject is this: "Let no man judge you in respect of an holy day, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days" (Colossians ii. 16). [That refers to the ceremonial—sacrificial—yearly sabbaths of Leviticus 23, which were done away at the cross.] I could understand a Bible Christian imagining from this passage, that we ought to make no difference between Saturday, Sunday, and every other day of the week. But not one syllable does it say about the obligation of the Sabbath being transferred from one day to another.

2. Secondly, the words of St. John are quoted, "I was in the Spirit on the Lord’s day (Apocalypse [Revelation] i. 10). Is it possible that anybody can for a moment imagine that here is a safe and clear rule for changing the weekly day of worship from the seventh to the first day? This passage is utterly silent upon such a subject; it only give Scriptural authority for calling some one day in particular (it does not even say which day) "the Lord’s day."

3. Next we are reminded that St. Paul bade his Corinthian converts, "upon the first day of the week, lay by them in store, that there might be no gatherings" when he himself came (1 Corinthians xvi. 2). How is this supposed to affect the law of the Sabbath? It commands a certain act of almsgiving [doing one’s finances at home] to be done on the first day of the week. It says absolutely nothing about not doing certain other acts of prayer and public worship on the seventh day.

4. But, you will say, it was "on the first day of the week" when the disciples were assembled within closed doors for fear of the Jews, and Jesus stood in the midst of them" (John xx. 19). What is there in these facts to do away with the obligation of keeping holy the seventh day? Our Lord rose from the dead on the first day of the week, and on the same day at evening He appears to many of His disciples. Let Protestants, if they will [in obedience to Catholic tradition], keep holy the first day of the week in grateful commemoration of that stupendous mystery, the Resurrection of Christ, and of the evidences which He vouchsafed to give of it to His doubting disciples; but this is no scriptural authority for ceasing to keep holy another day of the week which God had expressly commanded to be kept holy for another and altogether different reason.

5. But lastly, we have the example of the Apostles themselves. "Upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow, and continued his speech until midnight" (Acts xx. 7). Here we have clear proof that the disciples heard a sermon on a Sunday. But is that not proof they had done the same on the Saturdays also? [Acts xiii. 14, 42-44; xvi. 12-13; xvii. 1-2; xviiii. 1-4, 11]. [After the night meeting on the first day in Troas (Acts xx. 7), Paul held a meeting on Tuesday in Miletus (Acts xx. 17-38). But no one considers that meeting sacred.]

You will say, is it not expressly written concerning those early Christians, that they "continued daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house?" (Acts ii. 46). As a matter of fact, do we not know from other sources that, in many parts of the church, the ancient Christians were in the habit of meeting together for public worship, and to perform the other [religious] offices, on Saturdays? Again then, I say, [in obedience to our command] let Protestants keep holy, if they will their first day of the week; but let them remember that this cannot possible release them from the obligation of keeping holy another day which Almighty God has ordered to be kept holy, because on that day He "rested from all His work." [The Troas meeting was held on Sunday in Acts 20:7, just prior to a Miletus meeting on Tuesday in Acts 20:17-38, although no one today keeps Tuesday sacred because of that meeting].

I do not know of any other passages of holy Scripture which Protestants are in the habit of quoting to defend their practice of keeping holy the first day of the week instead of the seventh; yet, surely those which I have quoted are not such as should satisfy any reasonable man, who looks upon the written word of God as they [the Protestants] profess to look upon it, namely, as the only appointed means of learning God’s will, and who really desires to learn and to obey that will in all things with humbleness and simplicity of heart. For in spite of all that anyone might say to the contrary, it is fully and absolutely impossible that a reasonable and thoughtful person should be satisfied, by the texts that I have quoted, that Almighty God intended the obligation of Saturday to be transferred to Sunday. And yet Protestants do so transfer it, and never seem to have the slightest misgivings lest, in doing so, they should be guilty of breaking one of God’s commandments.

Why is this? Because, although they talk so largely about following the Bible and Bible only, they are really guided in this matter by the voice of [Roman Catholic] tradition. Yes, much as they may hate and denounce the word [tradition], they have in fact no other authority to allege for this most important change.

The present generation of Protestants keep Sunday holy instead of Saturday, because they received it as part of the Christian religion from the last generation, and that generation received it from the generation before, and so on backwards from one generation to another, by a continual succession, until we come to the time of the so-called "Reformation," when it so happened that those who conducted the change of religion [from Catholicism to Protestantism] left this particular portion of Catholic faith and practice untouched.

But, had it happened otherwise,—had some one or other of the "Reformers" taken it into his head to denounce the observance of Sunday as a Popish corruption and superstition, and to insist upon it that Saturday was the day which God had appointed to be kept holy, and that He had never authorized the observance of any other,—all Protestants would have been obliged, in obedience to their professed principle of following "the Bible and the Bible only," either to acknowledge this teaching as true, and to return to the observance of the ancient Sabbath, or else to deny that there is any Sabbath at all. And so, in like manner, any one at the present day who should set about, honestly and without prejeduce, to draw up for himself a form of religious belief and practice out of the written Word of God, must needs come to the same conclusion: He must either believe that the seventh-day Sabbath is still binding upon men’s consciences, because of the Divine command, ‘Thou shalt keep holy the seventh day,’ or he must believe that no Sabbath at all is binding upon them. [Paul would have no right to abolish any of the Ten Commandments.] Either one of these conclusions he might come to;—but he would know nothing whatever of a "Christian Sabbath" distinct from the Biblical Sabbath, [that is] celebrated on a different day, and observed in a different manner,—simply because Holy Scripture itself nowhere speaks of such a thing.

Now, mind, in all this you would greatly misunderstand me if you supposed I was quarrelling with you for acting in this matter on a true and right principle,—in other words, a Catholic principle (viz., the acceptance, without hesitation, of that which has been handed down to you by an unbroken tradition). I would not tear from you a single one of those shreds and fragments of Divine truth [Catholic truth] which you have retained. God forbid! They are the most precious things you possess, and by God’s blessing may serve as clues to bring you out of that labyrinth of [Protestant] error in which you find yourselves involved, far more by the fault of your forefathers three centuries ago [when they left Rome during the sixteenth-century Reformation] than by your own.

What I do quarrel with you for, is not your inconsistency in occasionally acting on a true principle [such as Roman Catholic Sundaykeeping], but your adoption, as a general rule of a false one [your Protestant refusal to accept the rest of Roman traditional teachings; such as the Mass and the veneration of saints]. You keep the Sunday, and not the Saturday; and you do so rightly, for this was the practice of all Christians when Protestantism began [Catholic leaders erroneously say there were no Protestants prior to the sixteenth century]; but you have abandoned other Catholic observances which were equally universal at that day, preferring the novelties introduced by the men who invented Protestantism, to the unvarying tradition of above 1500 years [of Catholic teaching]. We blame you not for making Sunday your weekly holyday instead of Saturday, but for rejecting tradition [the sayings of the popes and councils of Rome], which is the only safe and clear rule by which this observance [of Sunday] can be justified.

In outward act we do the same as yourselves in this matter; we too no longer observe the Sabbath, but Sunday in its stead; but there is this important difference between us, that we do not pretend—as you do—to derive our authority for so doing from a book [the Bible], but we [Catholics] derive it from a living teacher, and that teacher is the [Roman Catholic] Church. Moreover, we believe that not everything which God would have us to know and to do is written in the Bible, but that there is also an unwritten word of God [the sayings of popes and councils and canonized saints], which we are bound to believe and to obey . .

We Catholics, then, have precisely the same authority for keeping Sunday holy instead of Saturday as we have for every other article of our creed, namely, the authority of "the Church of the living God, and ground of truth" (1 Timothy iii. 15); whereas you who are Protestants have really no authority for it [Sunday sacredness] whatever; for there is no authority for it in the Bible, and you will not allow that there can be authority for it anywhere else. Both you and we do, in fact, follow [Catholic] tradition in this matter; but we follow it, believing it to be a part of God’s word, and the [Catholic] Church to be its divinely appointed guardian and interpreter. You follow it [Catholicism], denouncing it all the time as a fallible and treacherous guide which often "makes the commandment of God of none effect" (Matthew xv. 6).
---Why Don’t You Keep Holy the Sabbath Day?" pages 3-15, in The Clifton Tracts, Vol. 4, published by the Roman Catholic Church. Originally released in North America in 1869 through the T. W. Strong Publishing Company of New York City, so that those outside the papal fold might return to the not partial, but full, authority of the Mother Church of the Vatican.




1. So there you have it. There is no sunday sacredness in all of the Holy Bible. Rome proved it using scripture and also proved that she's the one who changed it!
But Jesus said, "it is easier for heaven and earth to pass than one tittle of the law to fail."- luke 16:17
And revelation 22:14 is clear that only those who keep the commandments have a right to eat of the tree of life and enter into the gates into the city.

Protestant vs Bible:
2. -how can protestants claim law was abolished at the cross, when Jesus said in Matthew 5:17 that His purpose and coming on earth was not to abolish the law? Fact is this bad theology stems from ephesians 2:15 and colossians 2:14.
Having a KJV they read:
"Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; -Colossians 2:14"
"Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace; -Ephesians 2:15"
All these two verses is saying is that Jesus abolished the law in ordinances. Which are the ceremonial laws, of sacrifice, and feast days. It said nothing about the law(ten commandments). When taken this way there is no longer a contradiction in the Bible between matthew 5:17-19 vs ephesians 2:15 and colossians 2:14
How can protestants miss this?
-plus if the law was abolished at the cross, how come we ought to preach to men that Jesus is their Saviour? The Bible says that "where no law is there is no transgression." And "sin is the transgression of the law"- 1 john 3:4 and romans 4:15 . So after the cross of Christ, there has been no sinner on earth because there was no Law to break! If there is no law, there is no transgression. How can protestants miss this?
3. - here's another thought that can drive protestants into the truth. Because many protestants pull up paul's writings to claim we are no longer under obligation to God's law. Let us turn to the story of matthew 7 where many false teachers and prophets meet with disappointment at the day of judgement. Jesus tells them "i never KNEW you" "depart from me YE WORKERS OF INIQUITY" so:
-knowing
-iniquity.
Is there some golden chain between these two? Yes there is.
1 john 2:4 "he that saith, i know Him, and[but] keepeth not His commandments, is a liar and the truth is not in him."
"Sin is the transgression of the law"- 1 john 3:4
So these false preachers and false teachers were kicked OUT of heaven because they were breaking God's Law! This proves the first two points, and the fact that the Sabbath is still to be kept.
So let all protestants BEWARE. WARNING: you cannot use paul's writings to fit your own theology that you are not obliged to keep the law! Else you are making paul a false prophet and teacher! He'd be a worker of iniquity if he did that! But WAIT, did Paul preach you can break God's law?
"Shall we sin because we are not under the law but under grace?"- romans 6:15. So there you have it!
"Shall we make the law void through faith? Nay, but we ESTABLISH IT." - romans 3:31
So paul never EVER preached you can freely break God's ten commandments! This omits the contradictions with matthew 5:17 and luke 16:17 and matthew 7 of the false teachers and prophets because PAUL was a true prophet chosen a vessel for God. Acts 13:1.
So how can protestants miss this? Protestants wake up! The beast is the vatican, and its mark is sunday!
"Sunday is our MARK of authority...the church is above the Bible, and this transference of Sabbath observance is proof of that fact."- catholic record of london, Ontario sept 1, 1923.
John1429.org watch the vid "the mark of the beast". And "the antichrist."
I hope you were blessed, because protestants are playing themselves into the hands of the roman catholic papacy, that VERY system whom their forefathers DIED to resist!

The letter of the roman catholic church can be found
Remnantofgod.org/romeadmits.htm

God bless you.
 
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Is this another Sunday is the mark of the beast post?

Then he said to them, "The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath. Mark 2:27
 
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Protestants i just want ONE single verse that tells us that Saturday sacredness was transferred to sunday. I did a bible study on that, and i found out that sunday is mentioned ONLY 6 times in all of the Holy Bible. Not ONCE, did it say sunday was holy, or that Sabbath was changed into sunday! It should become clear, that keeping sunday holy was just a tradition that crept into Christianity. Just as statues, saints, purgatory, calling priests "father", supremacy of the pope, christmas, easter, the sign of the cross...ect crept into Christianity too.
 

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can i get a summary?
is the Vatican the beast?
are we supposed to observe Sinai sabbath and kill our neighbours?
is Sunday an unholy day even though Christ rose from the dead and paul said let no man judge in sabbaths and whatnot?
one guy esteems one day over another.

how about that being good enuff.
sorry if i misunderstood.

Rome didn;t change anything. she SAID saturday is the sabbath handed down at Sinai.
or did i miss something?
 
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can i get a summary?
is the Vatican the beast?
are we supposed to observe Sinai sabbath and kill our neighbours?
is Sunday an unholy day even though Christ rose from the dead and paul said let no man judge in sabbaths and whatnot?
one guy esteems one day over another.

how about that being good enuff.
sorry if i misunderstood.

Rome didn;t change anything. she SAID saturday is the sabbath handed down at Sinai.
or did i miss something?
Those that will read this post are going to see what you will not, if you don't read this post.
 

zone

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Those that will read this post are going to see what you will not, if you don't read this post.
k. i'll wait and read their reviews.
thx anyways.
hopefully it isn't junk that isn't true.
maybe it is.
i don't know....i couldn't read what were their thoughts vs yours.
 

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You know I can understand how the sabbath might be saturday, but I personally spend each day getting to Know God and I pray pretty much all day everyday. So the sabbath is not of concern to me, I treat everyday as another day to be with God. You cannot be righteous or pure in the eyes of the Lord if you do these things just on the sabbath. He wants personal time with us everyday not one day. And Personally I find some people put their focus far too much on traditions such as the sabbath when they should be focusing on getting to know God better.
 
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You know I can understand how the sabbath might be saturday, but I personally spend each day getting to Know God and I pray pretty much all day everyday. So the sabbath is not of concern to me, I treat everyday as another day to be with God. You cannot be righteous or pure in the eyes of the Lord if you do these things just on the sabbath. He wants personal time with us everyday not one day. And Personally I find some people put their focus far too much on traditions such as the sabbath when they should be focusing on getting to know God better.
I am not telling you to be evil on all the other days. But it matters to God about the Sabbath, it's His fourth commadment. Ye know? I hope you read this post, because i am sure conviction will settle in your heart.
 
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You know I can understand how the sabbath might be saturday, but I personally spend each day getting to Know God and I pray pretty much all day everyday. So the sabbath is not of concern to me, I treat everyday as another day to be with God. You cannot be righteous or pure in the eyes of the Lord if you do these things just on the sabbath. He wants personal time with us everyday not one day. And Personally I find some people put their focus far too much on traditions such as the sabbath when they should be focusing on getting to know God better.
Here's a video to make it plain that it matters to God.
Sarah Draget - Remember (HD) - YouTube
 

Blain

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I am not telling you to be evil on all the other days. But it matters to God about the Sabbath, it's His fourth commadment. Ye know? I hope you read this post, because i am sure conviction will settle in your heart.
My friend I know that the sabbath is one of the commandments, but while this is true I see no reason why we cannot treat everyday as the sabbath. the more we care and love him and less and less of the world the more we take on his very nature and begin to see with his eyes and love with his heart.

Yes people have to deal with money issues and stress from the world and the sabbath is when we should drop all of that, but the more we trust him to take care of us and give him all our worries the more we interact with him on a daily bases. I treat everyday as the sabbath not just one day a week
 
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The Jews told Paul and Peter that if he took the gospel to the gentiles he was going to have to train them to live their lifestyle of rituals and Sabbath, etc. God, through Paul, gives us scripture saying that is a wrong idea. Now, the church is saying that any of what those awful Jews did is wrong, even if it comes from scripture. I looked into this carefully, and scripture does not back this up at all!

The Christian Jews got killed off in wars by 132, and the gentiles wrote against anything Jewish almost at once. It is man's idea, not God's that anything told of worship practices in the OT is wrong, even if the Jews did them. The Catholics are right, the church took up the cry against anything Jewish and it is in every one of their councils. I read a summary of each council for hundred's of years. At times the church took it further and used the idea that if it was Jewish it was wrong regardless of scripture so it was OK to kill Jews at times.

To this day people are open to pagan holidays to replace "Jewish" ones God tells of, to Sunday worship, to what is wrong about rituals, but their hearts and minds are as closed to the truth of them as the Jew's minds are closed to Christ as He lived with us.
 

zone

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The Jews told Paul and Peter that if he took the gospel to the gentiles he was going to have to train them to live their lifestyle of rituals and Sabbath, etc. God, through Paul, gives us scripture saying that is a wrong idea.
Acts 15:5
Then some of the believers who belonged to the party of the Pharisees stood up and said, "The Gentiles must be circumcised and required to keep the law of Moses."

Now, the church is saying that any of what those awful Jews did is wrong, even if it comes from scripture.
oh that awful church - why do you attend a christian church?
if the jews did something wrong and it's recorded in scripture - it's wrong.
if they did something right and it's recorded in scripture - it's right

is that hard?

ever gonna list the rituals we all need to perform?

I looked into this carefully, and scripture does not back this up at all!
cite your sources please?

The Christian Jews got killed off in wars by 132,
source/ WHICH CHRISTIAN JEWS GOT KILLED OFF? NO GENTILE ONES DID?

wars with whom? romans? they were unbelievers and were supposed to have fled Jerusalem before 70AD...like the believers did.

jews persecuted the first christians (who were jews).

and the gentiles wrote against anything Jewish almost at once.
sources please?

It is man's idea, not God's that anything told of worship practices in the OT is wrong, even if the Jews did them.
like what?
there's no more temple or sacrifices.
no priesthood.
so what exactly are you talking about?

The Catholics are right, the church took up the cry against anything Jewish and it is in every one of their councils. I read a summary of each council for hundred's of years. At times the church took it further and used the idea that if it was Jewish it was wrong regardless of scripture so it was OK to kill Jews at times.
source please?

To this day people are open to pagan holidays to replace "Jewish" ones God tells of, to Sunday worship, to what is wrong about rituals, but their hearts and minds are as closed to the truth of them as the Jew's minds are closed to Christ as He lived with us.
all the feasts were shadows of Christ.
you've been told that over and over.
sunday worship is Christian liberty - you don't accept Jesus brought us liberty.

what rituals? make that list RedTent.
they must be pretty important.

washing your dishes separatley?
ritual handwashing?
searching for yeast on Fridays?

what rituals?

PAUL EXPLAINED THE PHYSICAL COMES FIRST, THEN THE SPIRITUAL.
you don't understand that?
 
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My friend I know that the sabbath is one of the commandments, but while this is true I see no reason why we cannot treat everyday as the sabbath. the more we care and love him and less and less of the world the more we take on his very nature and begin to see with his eyes and love with his heart.

Yes people have to deal with money issues and stress from the world and the sabbath is when we should drop all of that, but the more we trust him to take care of us and give him all our worries the more we interact with him on a daily bases. I treat everyday as the sabbath not just one day a week
Yes getting closer to God is daily. But He God esteems the Sabbath more than all the other days of the week. What God honours and respects, so do I. I don't treat all days as the Sabbath. I treat the Sabbath as the most important day for me, because God wanted it to be so. God sanctified it, and made it ESPECIALLY for me! "The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath."
God bless you.
 

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Just throw CHosenbyhim and his King James Only Cult at the Vatican, as they claim to be the only true "Bible Believers" and everyone else is wrong.
 

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Yes getting closer to God is daily. But He God esteems the Sabbath more than all the other days of the week.
Matthew 3:17
And a voice from heaven said, "This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased."
 
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Yes getting closer to God is daily. But He God esteems the Sabbath more than all the other days of the week. What God honours and respects, so do I. I don't treat all days as the Sabbath. I treat the Sabbath as the most important day for me, because God wanted it to be so. God sanctified it, and made it ESPECIALLY for me! "The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath."
God bless you.
How wonderful to read about believing God! And when you say The Sabbath was made for man, so often that is quoted to mean man owns it, he can treat it as man wants. You read it as God meant it, Sabbath is to be kept as He gave it, and respect it as a gift. All that comes from God is Shalom. How delightful!
 
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SDA trols are tiresome - go find another board to haunt

start you own and call it Ellen G White is loony tunes just ask the three angels
 
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so christforme regards the pope as the antichrist and the roman catholic church as babylon...

...and then he just -takes their word for it- when they claim that they were the ones who 'replaced the sabbath'?

it seems like logical inconsistency is a way of life for some people... :rolleyes: