We are in a dispensation that demands action by those who proclaim to understand the word of God.

[breno785au]

Somehow, over the last 2 pages, I have seen we are in three different dispensations. Holy Spirit dispensation (this is actually an early church heresy from around 100AD), dispensation of grace (as if was never given before Christ, you're missing a lot in the OT if you think this), dispensation of Lot (never heard this before but sounds like you want to appear knowledgeable)... Pretty sure there was another one in the somewhere.

 

[Blain]

Traditional religion, like traditional politics is DEAD. We MUST seek to understand the Heart of God. The traditional originations which we call " churches" will fall to the very thing that has kept them afloat until now MONEY, MONEY,MONEY. Money is gone. There will be NO bailout for the churches.
They will continue to rely on their members for cash. Of course there will be no cash because there is none to spare. Can you see Gods hand in this ? The traditional religions have burdened their members with their lofty ideas and that could only be accomplished with MONEY.

The good news is that God has NOT forsaken even the weakest of those who truly seek Him. Know this the Holy Spirit diligently seeks out those who truly seek Him. Jesus tells us "a broken reed will he not break and smoking flax will he not quench". Thats me a broken reed.

For those of you who read this and wonder where am I in the mist of this dispensation, know this ,every thing that's happened on the face of this globe in the past few weeks is for one reason and one reason only to bring YOU to a place of REST. A place where you are no longer afraid for yourself or your children. A place where only Christ Himself leads us forward. Be not afraid be not dismayed He who sought you out when you where lost and had no way to go still holds you and his reach is far and without limit. Thats the almighty God that I serve. I Plead with you do not accept a lesser God. Soon These traditional originations will start begging for money . They will challenge you to "exercise " your faith by giving what you do not have to give .

It is the Devin gifts of the spirit we are in need of. God gave the power to protect us to the church. If we are not being protected who do we turn to?

This global crisis we are in is a call to the born again believers.The same reason this world was created ,not for your hurt but for your joy. Look to Him who has brought us and our children safely to this point in time. My God is greater than than any god who would give me a serpent when I ask for help.

This I will say last. It is a very difficult proclamation for me. Nevertheless it must be said. If I could give my place in the Kingdom of God so someone else could know this joy and peace in Jesus I believe he would give me the strength to face it.

There are some things I love about your post but there are also some things I am wondering about. Mainly it appears you have an issue with money the church and government. So far none of these things are dead and unless we no longer need any kind of currency to get things money sure won't be and won't be gone. Don't get me wrong I like the encouragement you are presenting but I am just a bit confused by some of the things your saying

 

[Blain]

There are 7 dispensations. We are in the church age now. This is the Holy Spirit Dispensation. Soon the Kingdom age will begin. This is a time of sabbath where man will rest from his works. We will rule and reign with Christ as Joint Heirs for 1,000 years. On Pentecost this year we will enter into a time of revival. This will be the final and the great harvest. People are getting ready for all of that now.

I apologize if I am mistaken but are you saying the rapture itself is going to happen on pentacost this year?

 

[Nehemiah6]

They will continue to rely on their members for cash. Of course there will be no cash because there is none to spare.

I'm not sure how you arrived at this conclusion. Cash will not suddenly disappear. Money rightly applied to meet real material and spiritual needs can be a tremendous blessing to the recipients.

Anyhow churches do need money to function, but the abuse and misuse of the offerings made by Christians, and the fleecing of gullible Christians by charlatans are definitely problems.

 

[Blik]

I am posting this message twice, so far, with the intent of reaching BLIK in response to the their post. I have tried and tried to understand how this web sight works ( alas to no avail) so I will reply to any and every path given me in order to gleam truth(no matter to what level) it can be accomplished .

So with that said: This is a message to BLIK....... KEEP IT COMING..... THIS IS A MESSAGE OF HOPE TO ALL WHO ARE WITHOUT HOPE.

I get such negative feedback this is so wonderful for me.

I have had private conversations using this site, but it has changed over the years and now I don't know how to do that, but I am sure we can explore and figure it out. Click on "Blik" and it will bring to to conversations. We can explore from there. Be wonderful to hear from you.

 

[JohnR7]

I apologize if I am mistaken but are you saying the rapture itself is going to happen on pentecost this year?

I did not say that. I do not even know if there is going to be a rapture or a tribulation period. But if there is a 7 year trib then I believe in a pre trib rapture. That would be around the year 2029. I believe that the church age is 2,000 years starting on the day of Pentecost in 29 ad. The church age known as the age of Grace or the HS dispensation. After the Church age comes the Kingdom age. This is the 1,000 year reign of Christ when we will rule and reign with Him for 1,000 years.

What I said is I believe there will be revival on Pentecost of this year and the beginning of the final harvest that Even Moses talks about. The anointing at this time will be greater than the anointing at the beginning at the first Pentecost when Peter was preaching in the upper room. Others are saying the same thing. This virus will peek on Easter Sunday and start to decline and it should run it's course by Pentecost which is 50 days after Easter. Even they say 40 days. Because of the 40 years in the wilderness. So when the ban is lifted then people will rejoice and celebrate and this will be the beginning of a revival. Otherwise why would we be going through all of this if God is not going to use it all for His Greater Glory? All things work together for good for those who love God and who are called according to His Glory. He is able to do abundantly above and beyond all that we could ever ask or think.

We can search the Bible for scriptures that talk about the second day and the third day. A day is equal to 1,000 years. "with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day." (2Peter 3:8b) "After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight." (Hosea 6:2) " "Go tell that fox, 'I will keep on driving out demons and healing people today and tomorrow, and on the third day I will reach my goal.' " (Luke 6:32) " On the third day Abraham lifted up his eyes, and saw the place afar off." (Genesis 22:4)

The church age is coming to an end. The Kingdom age is beginning. Just how all of that works out I am not sure. How much is literal and how much is symbolic I am not sure. We do have a final harvest at the end of the church age and that is a huge event with many people of all tongues, tribes nations and people are going to come to a saving knowledge of the truth. I think this will be a third of the people.

"And in all the land, declares the LORD, two-thirds will be cut off and perish, but a third will be left in it. This third I will bring through the fire; I will refine them like silver and test them like gold. They will call on My name, and I will answer them. I will say, ‘They are My people,’ and they will say, ‘The LORD is our God.’” (Zech 13:8,9)

I did not mean to write a whole book on this. But there is a lot involved going on here.

 

[JohnR7]

unless we no longer need any kind of currency to get things money sure won't be and won't be gone.

There is no money in Heaven. People do what they enjoy to do and give it away for free. I do that with my rock art. If people like what I do then I give it to them for free. I just hand it to them. If it was something I liked then I will just make another one for myself.

 

[Blain]

I did not say that. I do not even know if there is going to be a rapture or a tribulation period. But if there is a 7 year trib then I believe in a pre trib rapture. That would be around the year 2029. I believe that the church age is 2,000 years starting on the day of Pentecost in 29 ad. The church age known as the age of Grace or the HS dispensation. After the Church age comes the Kingdom age. This is the 1,000 year reign of Christ when we will rule and reign with Him for 1,000 years.

What I said is I believe there will be revival on Pentecost of this year and the beginning of the final harvest that Even Moses talks about. The anointing at this time will be greater than the anointing at the beginning at the first Pentecost when Peter was preaching in the upper room. Others are saying the same thing. This virus will peek on Easter Sunday and start to decline and it should run it's course by Pentecost which is 50 days after Easter. Even they say 40 days. Because of the 40 years in the wilderness. So when the ban is lifted then people will rejoice and celebrate and this will be the beginning of a revival. Otherwise why would we be going through all of this if God is not going to use it all for His Greater Glory? All things work together for good for those who love God and who are called according to His Glory. He is able to do abundantly above and beyond all that we could ever ask or think.

We can search the Bible for scriptures that talk about the second day and the third day. A day is equal to 1,000 years. "with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day." (2Peter 3:8b) "After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight." (Hosea 6:2) " "Go tell that fox, 'I will keep on driving out demons and healing people today and tomorrow, and on the third day I will reach my goal.' " (Luke 6:32) " On the third day Abraham lifted up his eyes, and saw the place afar off." (Genesis 22:4)

The church age is coming to an end. The Kingdom age is beginning. Just how all of that works out I am not sure. How much is literal and how much is symbolic I am not sure. We do have a final harvest at the end of the church age and that is a huge event with many people of all tongues, tribes nations and people are going to come to a saving knowledge of the truth. I think this will be a third of the people.

"And in all the land, declares the LORD, two-thirds will be cut off and perish, but a third will be left in it. This third I will bring through the fire; I will refine them like silver and test them like gold. They will call on My name, and I will answer them. I will say, ‘They are My people,’ and they will say, ‘The LORD is our God.’” (Zech 13:8,9)

I did not mean to write a whole book on this. But there is a lot involved going on here.

Well again I do apologize the words great harvest threw me off because some people refer to that as the rapture

 

[Blain]

There is no money in Heaven. People do what they enjoy to do and give it away for free. I do that with my rock art. If people like what I do then I give it to them for free. I just hand it to them. If it was something I liked then I will just make another one for myself.

That day will be wonderful when in heaven we will not want for a single thing but sadly in this world money or rather a type of currency is required to have order. but I like your rock art I used to collect crystal and rose rocks as a kid I wanted to make some kind of art with them but never could think of anything

 

[JohnR7]

Well again I do apologize the words great harvest threw me off because some people refer to that as the rapture

Oh, you mean the parable of the wheat and the tares. Then there could be a rapture at the end of the Harvest. Some people think this virus thing is the angels separating the wheat and the tares. "But as for that day or hour, no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. " (Matthew 24:36) I do not know when the rapture will be.

"The field is the world, and the good seed represents the sons of the kingdom. The weeds are the sons of the evil one, and the enemy who sows them is the devil. The harvest is the end of the age, and the harvesters are angels. As the weeds are collected and burned in the fire, so will it be at the end of the age." (Matthew 13:39,40)

I am 68 and I will be 77 in the year 2029. I do not plan to live beyond that point in time. I might though. I did not plan to live this long.

 

[tanakh]

There are people who say that we don't need to study the Torah because "Christ fulfilled". I don't think the Lord ever means any of His words to ever mean we are not to understand all of God as everything the book of Psalms tells us He is, and certainly not using the word fulfilled to means anything the Lord tells us is to be ignored. The principles of our creator God are in the first five books of scripture.

For thousands of years people of the world used the eternal Christ, the Christ that fulfilled, for the eternal salvation God gave us on faith, using the symbolic blood of animals for Christ. We can learn of things Christ fulfilled by learning from the Torah about this forgiveness God offered them on faith. Few Christians will even learn even those things Christ fulfilled. They are so deep in the old covenant of relating to God through only physical things they deny the spiritual in those physical things of the old covenant.

I fully agree that spiritual things of God can be learnt from the Torah and the rest of the OT. In fact the NT cannot be fully understood without studying the OT. But what I don't agree with is trying to copy the shadows and types found there. To me it is the opposite extreme to ignoring the OT altogether.

 

[JohnR7]

we will not want for a single thing

God gives us the desires of our heart even now. Only now there can still be a delay. Sometimes we wait so long for something we do not even want it anymore by the time we get it. This is why we are given time to purify our heart before God to get rid of evil and wicked desires.

 

[Blain]

Oh, you mean the parable of the wheat and the tares. Then there could be a rapture at the end of the Harvest. Some people think this virus thing is the angels separating the wheat and the tares. "But as for that day or hour, no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. " (Matthew 24:36) I do not know when the rapture will be.

"The field is the world, and the good seed represents the sons of the kingdom. The weeds are the sons of the evil one, and the enemy who sows them is the devil. The harvest is the end of the age, and the harvesters are angels. As the weeds are collected and burned in the fire, so will it be at the end of the age." (Matthew 13:39,40)

I am 68 and I will be 77 in the year 2029. I do not plan to live beyond that point in time. I might though. I did not plan to live this long.

Well you may not plan to live long enough to be in the rapture but like I was always say God loves to be unpredictable

 

[JohnR7]

There are people who say that we don't need to study the Torah because "Christ fulfilled".

Jesus said: "It is finished". Yet that was long before I was born and long before He began to do a work in my life.

 

[JohnR7]

Well you may not plan to live long enough to be in the rapture but like I was always say God loves to be unpredictable

I have died plenty of times. He keeps rising me up again. Then it is as if He says that I should live right and quit being so stupid so I can walk in divine health and not have to go to Him for healing. Although my wife claims I am alive because she prays and intercedes for me.

 

[Blain]

God gives us the desires of our heart even now. Only now there can still be a delay. Sometimes we wait so long for something we do not even want it anymore by the time we get it. This is why we are given time to purify our heart before God to get rid of evil and wicked desires.

Sadly as long as I am here in this flesh I cannot have the desires of my heart because there is only one thing I desire more than anything else in all of heaven itself- his heart. I to know him and have him without limit, to have a love and bond and intimacy with him unlike anything anyone even knew we could have with him and I want to search without restrictions, to endlessly sink deeper and deeper into the ocean that is his heart as I fall in love with over and over and over again.

It's the only thing I desire and my heart and soul crave it and long for it desperately and even though this flesh binds me to this realm I seek his heart as if I can and will have it in this realm

 

[Blain]

I have died plenty of times. He keeps rising me up again. Then it is as if He says that I should live right and quit being so stupid so I can walk in divine health and not have to go to Him for healing. Although my wife claims I am alive because she prays and intercedes for me.

Perhaps both things are right or perhaps he is saying you are not done yet. God's plan for us lasts until he says so and the plan he has for you must be quite important to keep bringing you back my friend so look at it as good thing

 

[JohnR7]

This response just makes it look like you think you have the corner on truth,

I do not write the Bible, God does. I do not define the words in the Bible. The symbolic meaning of the letters define the words. Although in Bible college they teach that we understand the meaning of the words by context. For me context is just a confirmation. My approach is expository, what I call expotheo. I have even used that as a name in the past.

 

[JohnR7]

there is only one thing I desire more than anything else in all of heaven itself- his heart.

David was a man after the heart of God. I learned from David his love for the law of God and God's desire to shelter us and protect us. To keep us out of harm's way. This is why I had a discussion with Paul. He changed the word David used" "Good" in the Hebrew to "Right" in the Greek. To me these are two different words, two different concepts. But to Paul they were the same. So I guess I do not really know what that means to really have that desire in my heart to want to please God.

 

[Blain]

David was a man after the heart of God. I learned from David his love for the law of God and God's desire to shelter us and protect us. To keep us out of harm's way. This is why I had a discussion with Paul. He changed the word David used" "Good" in the Hebrew to "Right" in the Greek. To me these are two different words, two different concepts. But to Paul they were the same. So I guess I do not really know what that means to really have that desire in my heart to want to please God.

The book of psalms has always been one of my favorite books simply because I felt a kinship with David in many ways he and I are alike we both are hungry to know him and have him we both are psalm writers and use words to express our hearts inner thoughts we both think very highly of God and adore who he is with great respect and we both have a very open relationship with him we don't simp,ly worship and follow him rather we walk with him he is like our best friend who we can speak to about anything and everything even in our frustration we don't hide anything from him.

In all honesty the words good and right could or could not be the same depending on the translation and also depending on which script you compare it to. The old testament in which Psalms was written was in the hebrew text and like you said right was in greek but neither were translated in the english language back then not to mention how there seems to be a distinct difference between the two languages where the hebrew language seems to have a much deeper meaning in every aspect down to the meaning of the words the letters and even the numeric system built in the represetation of each letter of their alphabet where as in greek if I am not mistaken it is not as in depth and so the words may actually mean the same thing just spoken differently.

As for you not knowing the desire to please God that may very well not be true at all. Every person as a believer is different and have different aspects at different levels. I like to compare believers in this kind of analogy, there are children of fire and children of water. The children of fire are passionate and can be emotional as well as being outspoken they tend to light the fire in others just as fire consumes everything it touches but then there are children of water who are more refined and composed they like still waters can be calm cool and collected and are usually the more intellectual type studying God's words and do not rely on emotions or fellings as much but they are usually wise and good at teaching. then there believers who are not one or the other they are like how when you have oil on water fire can burn on top of water these are children who are both water and fire but regardless of what kind of believer you are we all have the qualities at a different degree