We need to take another look at The Garden of Eden

[Obey-JESUS]

It's always me that's the a troll ...you know, the guy telling you that you are living a lie. What is wrong with you that you think separation from GOD is ever ok? You can't read the following Scripture and think you are a Child of GOD:

Heb 9:14
How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

Gal 5:24
And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

1 John 3:6
No one who abides in him keeps on sinning; no one who keeps on sinning has either seen him or known him.

John 15:22
If I had not come and spoken unto them, they had not had sin: but now they have no cloke for their sin.

2 Corinthians 5:15
he died for all so that those who live should live no longer for themselves, but for him who died for them and was raised up

 

[Obey-JESUS]

How are you practicing Righteousness?!?!

1 John 3:
7 Little children, let no one deceive you. Whoever practices righteousness is righteous, as he is righteous.

8 Whoever makes a practice of sinning is of the devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the works of the devil.

9 No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God's seed abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born of God.

10 By this it is evident who are the children of God, and who are the children of the devil: whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is the one who does not love his brother.

 

[Magenta]

It's always me that's the a troll ...you know, the guy telling you that you are living a lie.

Still waiting for that list of sins.

What is wrong with you that you think separation from GOD is ever ok?

Who said separation from God is okay? Oh, nobody. Just another one of your lies that separate you from God.

 

[Obey-JESUS]

Still waiting for that list of sins.

Who said separation from God is okay? Oh, nobody. Just another one of your lies that separate you from God.

You say separation from GOD is okay ...because that is what sin is ....HELLO????

You think your separation doesn't count because you said the magic words. You are not Covered in His Blood unless you actually pick up a cross!!!

 

[Magenta]

You say separation form GOD is okay ...because that is what sin is ....HELLO????

You think your separation doesn't count because you said the magic words. You are not Covered in His Blood unless you actually pick up a cross!!!

More of your lies.

 

[DanielLL]

Lot is righteous; Lot sins.

How can you condemn, those whom God has not condemn? How can you call a sinner, whom God has called righteous?

You speak directly against the Word, I can't believe you because the witness of God is greater.

tell me why Lot is called righteous?

He was called righteous, because he is righteous. There is no other option, the Word is Truth, if the Word calls him righteous, is because he is righteous, indeed.
Also, Lot was spared from destruction, proving he was righteous:

Genesis 18:26 And the Lord said, If I find in Sodom fifty righteous within the city, then I will spare all the place for their sakes.

If Lot weren't righteous, he wouldn't be spared, he would be destroyed along with the city. But because he was righteous indeed, he was spared, and the Lord didn't destroyed him, but only destroyed the city, and only after Lot, the righteous, had left.

 

[Magenta]

As it is written: “There is no one righteous, not even one. There is no one who understands, no one who seeks
God. All have turned away, they have together become worthless; there is no one who does good, not even one.”

However, to the one who does not work but trusts God who justifies the ungodly, their faith is credited as righteousness.

 

[Obey-JESUS]

As it is written: “There is no one righteous, not even one. There is no one who understands, no one who seeks
God. All have turned away, they have together become worthless; there is no one who does good, not even one.”

However, to the one who does not work but trusts God who justifies the ungodly, their faith is credited as righteousness.

What are you saying? Your sins are somehow Justified?

Picking up our own cross is Obeying Him to be in His Righteousness on The Cross. Do you want Represented when CHRIST was Forsaken or not?

 

[Magenta]

What are you saying?

I am sorry you do not understand Scripture. There is no help for you when you reject what is given.

 

[Obey-JESUS]

I am sorry you do not understand Scripture. There is no help for you when you reject what is given.

...you really think your sins are Justified ...well, this is the core of your deceit then ...interesting.

 

[Magenta]

...you really think your sins are Justified ...well, this is the core of your deceit then ...interesting.

Rather it is you who justifies your sin, as you continually lie while acting the Pharisee.

 

[Obey-JESUS]

Rather it is you who justifies your sin, as you continually lie while acting the Pharisee.

Hmmm, so you think Trusting in GOD is trusting that He will Cover your repeated willful sin. When that "trust" was talking about Trusting Him that He will free you from sin slavery.

 

[Magenta]

Hmmm, so you think Trusting in GOD is trusting that He will Cover your repeated willful sin.
When that "trust" was talking about Trusting Him that He will free you from sin slavery.

Still waiting for this list of sins in my life you repeatedly claim to have knowledge of.

It's been two days already. What's taking you so long???

Meanwhile you think nothing of repeatedly sinning. Hmmmm.

 

[Magenta]

Romans 3:21 But now apart from the law the righteousness of God has been made known,
to which the Law and the Prophets testify. 22 This righteousness is given through faith in
Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference between Jew and Gentile, 23 for all
have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and all are justified freely by His grace
through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. 25 God presented Christ as a sacrifice
of atonement, through the shedding of His blood—to be received by faith. He did this to
demonstrate His righteousness, because in His forbearance He had left the sins committed
beforehand unpunished— 26 He did it to demonstrate His righteousness at the present
time, so as to be just and the One who justifies those who have faith in Jesus.

Acts 13:38-39

 

[Obey-JESUS]

Romans 3:21 But now apart from the law the righteousness of God has been made known,
to which the Law and the Prophets testify. 22 This righteousness is given through faith in
Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference between Jew and Gentile, 23 for all
have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and all are justified freely by His grace
through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. 25 God presented Christ as a sacrifice
of atonement, through the shedding of His blood—to be received by faith. He did this to
demonstrate His righteousness, because in His forbearance He had left the sins committed
beforehand unpunished— 26 He did it to demonstrate His righteousness at the present
time, so as to be just and the One who justifies those who have faith in Jesus.

Acts 13:38-39

Umm, yeah ...we are set free from sin and Justified when we are actual Children of GOD ...hint: Children of GOD don't do sins and say they are Justified.

 

[Magenta]

Umm, yeah ...we are set free from sin and Justified when we are actual Children of GOD ...
hint: Children of GOD don't do sins and say they are Justified.

Still waiting for this list of sins. It's been two days. What is taking you so long???

Romans 8:15-16

 

[FreeGrace2]

If we Join JESUS on The Cross we will not serve sin anymore:
Romans 6:5-6
For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

These verses don't support your claim. No one "joins" Jesus on the cross. When a person believes in Christ for salvation they are identified with His death, burial and resurrection.

We can't be Reborn without The Image of JESUS (Obey Him for SALVATION).

Most people will take "obey Him for salvation" as working for your salvation, many of whom will agree with.

But when Heb 5:9 says " and, once made perfect, he became the source of eternal salvation for all who obey him", it is not referring to a lifestyle, or law keeping. It is a very specific reference to believing that Jesus is THE way, THE truth and THE life, and the ONLY WAY to God the Father. iow, to "obey the gospel" means to believe that Jesus IS the Messiah/Savior, and will save everyone who trusts in His work on the cross for salvation.

How is repeated willful sin not an attempt to save your fallen life?

This question doesn't make sense.

Your spirit is dead because it isn't using The Tree of LIFE!

No, people's spirits are dead because they haven't believed in Christ for salvation and therefore, haven't been born again.

Those who have believed in Him for salvation ARE born again. And that means their human spirit is alive.

Eph 2:5

We are Adam and Eve ...we can't have the Life of CHRIST and continue to live in repeated willful sin.
The Garden was GOD telling us about The Test we are in right now.

Genesis 3:24
So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming SWORD which turned every way, to keep THE WAY of the TREE OF LIFE.

No, we are NOT Adam and Eve. They were created without sin; human beings are BORN in sin.

Mankind is NOT in any kind of "test". Adam and Eve weren't being tested anyway. God is omniscient and has always known how they would choose.

 

[posthuman]

How can you condemn, those whom God has not condemn? How can you call a sinner, whom God has called righteous

The point is that I am not condemning Lot, nor did God, who saved him and ascribed a righteousness to him which is apart from works, despite Lots constant wavering.

In the case of Lot God redeemed him out of Sodom for the sake of Abraham who loved him.
In our case God redeems us for the sake of Christ who loves us.

 

[posthuman]

He was called righteous, because he is righteous. There is no other option, the Word is Truth

Read Peter's description of Lot to me.

 

[Obey-JESUS]

The point is that I am not condemning Lot, nor did God, who saved him and ascribed a righteousness to him which is apart from works, despite Lots constant wavering.

In the case of Lot God redeemed him out of Sodom for the sake of Abraham who loved him.
In our case God redeems us for the sake of Christ who loves us.

There is something very curious about Lot being Saved from sin slavery ...Sodom ...Egypt.