What’s your takeaway from Matthew 27:46?
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Personally I believe Jesus was experiencing what we believe as man - that God forsakes us when sin is involved. This is the first time Jesus ever called His Father - God.
Sin has a way of distorting the truth because we know that the Father did not forsake Jesus. ( Ps. 22:24 ) God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself. He felt like He did because that is how we feel when sin is deceiving us from the truth. Jesus was representing us as the Son of Man.
Jesus took the sin of the whole world upon Him from time past until time in the future. This is how sins done after Jesus died on the cross are forgiven as they were all in the future to us in this century and in all others after Jesus rose from the dead.
Sin is deceitful and it distorts the true picture of our Father towards us.
Sin has a way of distorting the truth because we know that the Father did not forsake Jesus. ( Ps. 22:24 ) God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself. He felt like He did because that is how we feel when sin is deceiving us from the truth. Jesus was representing us as the Son of Man.
Jesus took the sin of the whole world upon Him from time past until time in the future. This is how sins done after Jesus died on the cross are forgiven as they were all in the future to us in this century and in all others after Jesus rose from the dead.
Sin is deceitful and it distorts the true picture of our Father towards us.
Two things I think. One he was quoting scripture to the Jews which should have caused them to see that Jesus was their Messiah. But secondly the definition of forsaken is given in Pslam 22:1 - It means far from helping him. Basically Jesus was saying "My God, my God why aren't you helping me". A rhetorical question of course because Jesus know the reason.
Psalm 22:1-2 KJV
My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring? [2] O my God, I cry in the daytime, but thou hearest not; and in the night season, and am not silent.
Psalm 22:1-2 KJV
My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring? [2] O my God, I cry in the daytime, but thou hearest not; and in the night season, and am not silent.
Some have suggested that this is the moment when God the Father turned His back toward God the Son. Only for a moment but God cannot look upon sin so the moment Christ took upon Himself our sin He was separated from the Father.
Better translation is what not why: what my God hast thou forsaken me.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Better translation is what not why: what my God hast thou forsaken me.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Hab 1:13 Thou art of purer eyes than to behold evil, and canst not look on iniquity: wherefore lookest thou upon them that deal treacherously, and holdest thy tongue when the wicked devoureth the man that is more righteous than he?
2Co 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
2Co 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
If God could not look at sin as we are taught in some religious teachings - then Jesus wouldn't have been able to look at anyone.
Nor the Father Himself be able to look on the earth and yet the scripture says that His eyes go back and forth looking for those that believe Him so that He can make Himself strong on their behalf.
I think Hab. 1:13 has been grossly mis-understood. It looks like Hab. is just saying that God cannot look at evil as if it's ok - not that He can't look upon it.
Habakkuk 1:13 (NASB)
[SUP]13 [/SUP] Your eyes are too pure to approve evil, And You can not look on wickedness with favor. Why do You look with favor On those who deal treacherously? Why are You silent when the wicked swallow up Those more righteous than they?
Nor the Father Himself be able to look on the earth and yet the scripture says that His eyes go back and forth looking for those that believe Him so that He can make Himself strong on their behalf.
I think Hab. 1:13 has been grossly mis-understood. It looks like Hab. is just saying that God cannot look at evil as if it's ok - not that He can't look upon it.
Habakkuk 1:13 (NASB)
[SUP]13 [/SUP] Your eyes are too pure to approve evil, And You can not look on wickedness with favor. Why do You look with favor On those who deal treacherously? Why are You silent when the wicked swallow up Those more righteous than they?
A person in the after life that was not in the truth concerning God,will be separated from Him forever,and that is a terrible feeling that is worse than a person that is an atheist on earth right now,for there is still some comfort.
Jesus is God manifest in the flesh,God and man in harmony.
The only thing that makes sense is it was the man Christ Jesus that cried out,My God why did you forsake Me.
Jesus is the Lamb that takes away the sins of the world,and the sins were laid upon Him,and then when He was buried,aid down those sins.
It could be that when the sins of the world were laid upon Him,He felt what is was like to separated from God,but it was only a feeling,for Jesus said the Father will never leave Him,so the Father would of not turned His back on His Son,for He is innocent,but the man Christ might have felt what it was like to be separated from God,because the sins of the world were laid upon Him,although He was not separated from God.
I do not now what else to say concerning it,for Jesus knew He had to go to the cross,and die to save humanity,so He would not say,My God why did you forsake me,concerning that,so the only thing that I can think of is it is the man Christ Jesus that felt temporarily separated from God,for the sins of the world were laid upon Him.
But after Jesus said,My God why did you forsake Me,He then said,it is finished,Father in to your hands I commend My Spirit,so He knew the Father did not actually forsake Him,so it must of only been a feeling that the man Christ Jesus never felt before,because He took away the sins of the world.
Jesus is God manifest in the flesh,God and man in harmony.
The only thing that makes sense is it was the man Christ Jesus that cried out,My God why did you forsake Me.
Jesus is the Lamb that takes away the sins of the world,and the sins were laid upon Him,and then when He was buried,aid down those sins.
It could be that when the sins of the world were laid upon Him,He felt what is was like to separated from God,but it was only a feeling,for Jesus said the Father will never leave Him,so the Father would of not turned His back on His Son,for He is innocent,but the man Christ might have felt what it was like to be separated from God,because the sins of the world were laid upon Him,although He was not separated from God.
I do not now what else to say concerning it,for Jesus knew He had to go to the cross,and die to save humanity,so He would not say,My God why did you forsake me,concerning that,so the only thing that I can think of is it is the man Christ Jesus that felt temporarily separated from God,for the sins of the world were laid upon Him.
But after Jesus said,My God why did you forsake Me,He then said,it is finished,Father in to your hands I commend My Spirit,so He knew the Father did not actually forsake Him,so it must of only been a feeling that the man Christ Jesus never felt before,because He took away the sins of the world.
Just me............but, I also think it was the moment when God (say it however it is best for you) turned away, averted His eyes from Christ as He hung on the Cross.
NOT that He was turning His back on Christ, BUT He was turning His eyes from the HORRIFIC SINS OF THE WORLD that Christ willingly took upon Himself FOR ALL OF US.
We all should know that sin separates us from God...........and, at this point in time, while Jesus was surely and fully God, He was surely and FULLY MAN, and His earthly being was calling out recognizing that the sins of the world had separated Him from God the Father.
Just my thoughts.........not Scriptural Doctrine
Someone said..........how can we understand it? And, I agree.........all we truly have is our thoughts concerning this horrific moment, and, that's ok, as long as we don't try and make it Doctrine.
NOT that He was turning His back on Christ, BUT He was turning His eyes from the HORRIFIC SINS OF THE WORLD that Christ willingly took upon Himself FOR ALL OF US.
We all should know that sin separates us from God...........and, at this point in time, while Jesus was surely and fully God, He was surely and FULLY MAN, and His earthly being was calling out recognizing that the sins of the world had separated Him from God the Father.
Just my thoughts.........not Scriptural Doctrine
Someone said..........how can we understand it? And, I agree.........all we truly have is our thoughts concerning this horrific moment, and, that's ok, as long as we don't try and make it Doctrine.
This phrase, "Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani" is perfect Hebrew, except the word "Eli", which is Aramic. Jesus spoke loud here because He was teaching. Many teach in ignorance that this shows that Christ had taken on the sins of the world and He was a little dirty, how ignorant of the word.
Jesus was teaching and quoting David from the Psalm of the events that would transpire during the going to the cross, to His resurrection. Let's go to Psalm 22: for the words of Christ on the Cross that are given to us.
Psalm 22:1 "My God My God, why hast thou forsaken Me? Why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring?"
Jesus was quoting from the words of David, to teach those that were not spitting, and caring on like a pack of madmen. God is not forsaking Jesus. When Jesus referred to the Father, He called Him Father, not God.
Read the rest of Psalm 22 to discover why this is called the “Crucifixion Psalm” by many biblical scholars.
Jesus was teaching and quoting David from the Psalm of the events that would transpire during the going to the cross, to His resurrection. Let's go to Psalm 22: for the words of Christ on the Cross that are given to us.
Psalm 22:1 "My God My God, why hast thou forsaken Me? Why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring?"
Jesus was quoting from the words of David, to teach those that were not spitting, and caring on like a pack of madmen. God is not forsaking Jesus. When Jesus referred to the Father, He called Him Father, not God.
Read the rest of Psalm 22 to discover why this is called the “Crucifixion Psalm” by many biblical scholars.