Again, the KJV and the Complete Jewish Bible do not say the people shouted "for joy" - the glory of the Lord can also be for rejection of righteous judgment. They fell on their faces but it doesn't say they were praying like they should have been at the time. I might add if incense was to be burnt then the people were to be in prayer. I didn’t say that this was the correct time to burn the incense.
ELIN wrote; The Hebrew word used for "shout" (ranan) means "to cry aloud, sing."
According to Strong’s Concordance # 7442 shouted/ranan=”to creak (or emit a stridulous sound)” Usually equated with joy, or a sound of triumph, and I might add, it is leaving the option open to our understanding of the reality of the circumstance at the time. Not really knowing that ‘stridulous’ means, I went to the Webster dictionary and it means “Making a small creaking sound” relating to the word “stridulation”= “A small, harsh, creaking noise, as by some insects”
ELIN wrote; Where are they commanded to pray at that time so that they are in disobedience for shouting with joy instead of praying?
What I originally wrote concerning prayer was “In Exodus 30:7 & 8 we read (Nadab and Abihu understood also) that Aaron was chosen by God to be the one to burn incense, and the recipe for the incense was not to be different or duplicated according to Exodus 30:34-38. Note in verse 7 and verse 36 of this chapter that God said, “Where I will meet thee.” This, to me, is a clear indication that the burning of incense is representative of prayer in every case. Also God says in verse 36 “it shall be unto you most holy.” Now look into the time of prayer that we read Luke 1:10 relating it to the burning of incense. (Psalm 141:2, Acts 3:1, Acts 10:3 and 30)
If what I present to you is true, it is also interesting to note that Jesus was on the cross of Calvary between the times that the high priest was to offer this incense for burning, and the smoke being relative to prayers. (Malachi 1:11, Mark 15:25, Mark 15:34-38, Acts 2:15-18)” Restating this from my original post I never insinuated that the people were commanded to pray during this devastating time in Biblical history. Nevertheless, I appreciate you bringing it up because it is important to understand prayer was offered during the burning of incense.
Originally Posted by just-me
So without using my misinformation, could you enlighten me on the spiritual significance of Lev chapters 9-10, please?
ELIN wrote; that is found here in the Biblical Principles and Personal Applications presented.
ELIN wrote;The main point of misinformation on Nadab and Abibu is that what they did wrong involved the sacrifices.
It involved only incense.
I will differ in your address concerning the burning of strange incense for it was “strange fire” that is being addressed here not “strange incense” as stated earlier in Exodus 30:9. As I understand, the incense was already made according to the commandment of God and was at the disposal of Aaron when God commanded him to burn it. I don’t believe that they had to wait for it to be mixed during the time of the burning. Therefore the incense was correctly made.
Your comment of the blood sprinkled 7 times was only supposed to happen once without a connection to anything, according to what you state as completion?
ELIN wrote; to which chapter are you referring?
Here, I was quoting you, and didn’t understand your question, but I will refer to a scripture that you requested. Please keep in mind that the blood of the BULLOCK was to be sprinkled. Leviticus 4:5-7… this was for the Priest’s sin offering in verse 3 of this same chapter. Stating the different times and understanding as you wrote; ”But the whole book of Leviticus was given in one month”, I am addressing one day in that month.
I humbly request your retraction of your comment that I am spreading misinformation now that we have it straightened out. The entire purpose of this commentary is to relate it to ourselves, this day, not succumbing to a form and a fashion of worship, but true worship.
ELIN wrote; The Hebrew word used for "shout" (ranan) means "to cry aloud, sing."
According to Strong’s Concordance # 7442 shouted/ranan=”to creak (or emit a stridulous sound)” Usually equated with joy, or a sound of triumph, and I might add, it is leaving the option open to our understanding of the reality of the circumstance at the time. Not really knowing that ‘stridulous’ means, I went to the Webster dictionary and it means “Making a small creaking sound” relating to the word “stridulation”= “A small, harsh, creaking noise, as by some insects”
ELIN wrote; Where are they commanded to pray at that time so that they are in disobedience for shouting with joy instead of praying?
What I originally wrote concerning prayer was “In Exodus 30:7 & 8 we read (Nadab and Abihu understood also) that Aaron was chosen by God to be the one to burn incense, and the recipe for the incense was not to be different or duplicated according to Exodus 30:34-38. Note in verse 7 and verse 36 of this chapter that God said, “Where I will meet thee.” This, to me, is a clear indication that the burning of incense is representative of prayer in every case. Also God says in verse 36 “it shall be unto you most holy.” Now look into the time of prayer that we read Luke 1:10 relating it to the burning of incense. (Psalm 141:2, Acts 3:1, Acts 10:3 and 30)
If what I present to you is true, it is also interesting to note that Jesus was on the cross of Calvary between the times that the high priest was to offer this incense for burning, and the smoke being relative to prayers. (Malachi 1:11, Mark 15:25, Mark 15:34-38, Acts 2:15-18)” Restating this from my original post I never insinuated that the people were commanded to pray during this devastating time in Biblical history. Nevertheless, I appreciate you bringing it up because it is important to understand prayer was offered during the burning of incense.
Originally Posted by just-me
So without using my misinformation, could you enlighten me on the spiritual significance of Lev chapters 9-10, please?
ELIN wrote; that is found here in the Biblical Principles and Personal Applications presented.
ELIN wrote;The main point of misinformation on Nadab and Abibu is that what they did wrong involved the sacrifices.
It involved only incense.
I will differ in your address concerning the burning of strange incense for it was “strange fire” that is being addressed here not “strange incense” as stated earlier in Exodus 30:9. As I understand, the incense was already made according to the commandment of God and was at the disposal of Aaron when God commanded him to burn it. I don’t believe that they had to wait for it to be mixed during the time of the burning. Therefore the incense was correctly made.
Your comment of the blood sprinkled 7 times was only supposed to happen once without a connection to anything, according to what you state as completion?
ELIN wrote; to which chapter are you referring?
Here, I was quoting you, and didn’t understand your question, but I will refer to a scripture that you requested. Please keep in mind that the blood of the BULLOCK was to be sprinkled. Leviticus 4:5-7… this was for the Priest’s sin offering in verse 3 of this same chapter. Stating the different times and understanding as you wrote; ”But the whole book of Leviticus was given in one month”, I am addressing one day in that month.
I humbly request your retraction of your comment that I am spreading misinformation now that we have it straightened out. The entire purpose of this commentary is to relate it to ourselves, this day, not succumbing to a form and a fashion of worship, but true worship.
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