What do we do about those things that should be causing us to stumble?

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GET RID OF THEM........!!!!!!!

as it is written,
'I will not be brought under the power of any fleshly DESIRE = food, drink, sex, drugs-legal or illegal'....
SELF-WILL......

1COR.6:12.
All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me,
but I will not be brought under the power of any.

if we can't OVER-COME it, then to ABSTAIN IS THE ONLY OTHER OPTION..
if we can't be 'temperate' in ALL THINGS, (we must never partake of evil)..

and, ANYTHING can become EVIL TO US, all we have to do is COVET IT, and then it comes into the
category of LUST.....
Right! Anything can become evil to us. The question is – how do we identify it before that happens – before it becomes evil to us or we entertain sinful thoughts? We subconsciously accept things God tells us He hates like divorce and homosexuality, and label ‘loving our neighbor’ as being nice and not saying anything that might hurt their feelings. That isn’t love. I recently told a 21 year old member of our family that he was being very judgmental toward someone, and I did it very gently and lovingly, but he was furious at first. Now, weeks later, he is just beginning to speak to me again – very little and very superficial, nothing meaty yet. I am waiting for his apology and to see repentance because he is a Christian, not just claiming to be one. I told him one day that I love him enough to tell him when he is making a mistake even if it means losing his ‘friendship’ (for lack of a better word at the moment).

But we also subconsciously accept music that is not only not pleasing to our Heavenly Father, but we don’t care. I was a country music fan years ago and when the songs overwhelmingly started to promote adultery/fornication, drunkenness (“Jose Cuervo, you are a friend of mine”), and on and on, I was convicted of the evil I was subjecting myself to and not only making it more difficult to resist evil, I was wasting time that could have been spent communicating with my Savior. It is the sneaky little things we don’t notice that become a danger to our spiritual health.

We are to sound the trumpet of warning and steer someone clear of spiritual danger just as we would warn them if they were about to get run over by a bus.
 

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I would be very interested in your opinion of what "follow Me" consists of.
Full time ministry. " Let the dead bury their own dead " kind of ministry.
 
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Those things that (SHOULD) cause us to stumble?????

How about

Those things that (CAUSE) us to stumble.......
 
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Full time ministry. " Let the dead bury the dead ". This kind of ministry.
Didn't he say...Let the DEAD bury the dead?

Ok.....what the heck....when I wrote this the thread said...

Originally Posted by Shoshanah
I would be very interested in your opinion of what "follow Me" consists of.
Full time ministry. " Let the living bury the dead ". This kind of ministry

Guess you corrected as I hit enter HAHAHA
 
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The first reaction from most professing Christians is, “I don’t!” or a variation of the denial that they are guilty. And I understand why people react that way. But it’s not okay just because ‘everybody does it.’ Then come the questions of ‘what do you mean’ and ‘how do we do that’ and such.

Sadly, the ‘Old Testament is void now since Messiah was crucified in our place’ false doctrine has evolved even further from truth into the ‘grace is everything and the old covenant, the Old Testament, the law – however one wants to phrase it – is sinful to observe because of grace.’ Those who have taught that doctrine will suffer (Matthew 5:17-20) but we can’t just lay the blame there. We are given instruction to study for ourselves (2 Timothy 2:15) as the Bereans did in Acts 17:11. When we don’t study every single word that Almighty God has preserved for us in the entire Bible, we are vulnerable to accepting things we shouldn’t.

A.W. Tozer explains it this way:
Take the man with gangrene in his leg. If he could get enough people to glorify it and pay him to exhibit it, write books and poems about it and sing jive songs about it, we soon could glorify gangrene. The gangrene, however, will kill its victim just as sure as there is a God in heaven. Unless he cuts the gangrene out and gets rid of it all, it will kill him. You can never negotiate terms with gangrene.
To violate the laws of God is to bring pollution to the poor of the race. To continue this and excuse it and justify it, and not repent of it, and build it into our reasoning and write books around it is to glorify something that will kill us as sure as we live.
Jive songs? lol
 

Patnubay

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Didn't he say...Let the DEAD bury the dead?

Ok.....what the heck....when I wrote this the thread said...

Originally Posted by Shoshanah
I would be very interested in your opinion of what "follow Me" consists of.
Full time ministry. " Let the living bury the dead ". This kind of ministry

Guess you corrected as I hit enter HAHAHA

yeah, ha ha ha. I was surprised myself when I saw what I posted...

 
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Sorry, i haven't heard the term jive in many,many, many years
 
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OH God,

only If we could 'go back' - and right our wrongs - BUT, this is IMPOSSIBLE.....

the human animal has a 'mind-set', that is all about SELF.....

may we 'over-come', through our Father's gift, and put HIM and OTHERS first,,,,,

then, we can believe that we are truly going HOME.....
 
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Matthew 5:29-30 (NAS)
29 If your right eye makes you stumble, tear it out and throw it from you; for it is better for you to lose one of the parts of your body, than for your whole body to be thrown into hell.
30 If your right hand makes you stumble, cut it off and throw it from you; for it is better for you to lose one of the parts of your body, than for your whole body to go into hell.
Matthew 18:8-9 (NAS)
8 If your hand or your foot causes you to stumble, cut it off and throw it from you; it is better for you to enter life crippled or lame, than to have two hands or two feet and be cast into the eternal fire.
9 If your eye causes you to stumble, pluck it out and throw it from you. It is better for you to enter life with one eye, than to have two eyes and be cast into the fiery hell.

At least twice in Matthew and once in Mark we hear Yeshua exhorting the people to part company with anything that causes us to sin…but we often don’t do it. It is too uncomfortable. Everything we think, do, watch, listen to, etc. is to be evaluated by God’s standards. Instead we see all around us professing Christians claiming to be living a good Christian life while blending into their standard of this good life they are living, the enjoyable things the world has to offer.

We have lost the sense of just how important the way we live really is. Partly to blame is the antinomian doctrine that now permeates American churches regardless of denomination – or lack thereof. “Non-denominationals” are equal in this point with any other organized religion. Time is too short to change the masses but we can repent as individuals and “throw from us” those things that don’t belong in our lives.
Another "it's not my fault; it's yours" sermon.
 
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Sorry, i haven't heard the term jive in many,many, many years
Tozer died in 1963 and I suspect he meant songs like "I'll Fly Away" in contrast to prayerful hymns like "Abide With Me" - good for a chuckle though. ;)
 
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Those things that (SHOULD) cause us to stumble?????

How about

Those things that (CAUSE) us to stumble.......
I was waiting for someone to say that :) I would have to say that the thought behind the statement is that we have become desensitized to wrong because it is all around us that we no longer even notice it many times, let alone stumble. We should see a stumbling block and avoid it but so often just accept things as they are even when they are wrong, not even noticing them as being ungodly.
 
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I am wondering since you seem to be one of the main contributors to the forums, what is or how do we "serve" Christ in this 21st century? I ask because my contact with professing Christians at this time is quite limited aside from CC.
You obviously weren't addressing me but I felt compelled to respond.
That is an odd question for a bible believer. There is no difference in serving God in Shawnee, Oklahoma or Madrid, Spain. Follow Christ with all your heart and be obedient to His word. His word is the same all over.

Why would you ask that? Did you not state it the way you meant to or what?
 
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You obviously weren't addressing me but I felt compelled to respond.
That is an odd question for a bible believer. There is no difference in serving God in Shawnee, Oklahoma or Madrid, Spain. Follow Christ with all your heart and be obedient to His word. His word is the same all over.

Why would you ask that? Did you not state it the way you meant to or what?
I was addressing Crossnote because I think he may have a different description of serving Christ than what I believe, and if I understand how people view some basic things, I am less likely to say things in a way that offends them. However, if something needs saying and Master Yahweh is telling me to - I will say it even if I step on toes. However, I try to say things gently while being truthful.
 
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Tozer died in 1963 and I suspect he meant songs like "I'll Fly Away" in contrast to prayerful hymns like "Abide With Me" - good for a chuckle though. ;)
I actually did laugh out loud when I got to the jive part. I like your post and I try to identify sin in my life and avoid it. This doesn't happen all the time! But to ignore sin in my life, i can't. I also think that sin still causes damage to the soul that is repaired through regular confession and repentance of our sins.