What does it take for a soul to become eternal/infinite?

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That would the Son walking and talking with them in the garden in the cool of the day.
Gen 3.8
And they heard the sound of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God among the trees of the garden.
Yes, God is in a Holy Trinity. I already explained that I was talking about Son as a physical man.
 
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Satan has authority because he is going to fight to keep disorder/sin from getting back into heaven. His pride wants every person possible.
 

posthuman

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reposted from the theopedia.com for some relevant general information about the heresy of neo-platonic gnosticism:


General beliefs
The following information is taken from Olson, The Story of Christian Theology, p. 37.
Matter or materiality
Gnostics believed that matter, whether it be the physical universe or the humanly body, is evil. It is obvious that there is a great tension between spirit and matter. This effects many of their beliefs and especially the way they perceive(d) the world and God's interactions with it.
God
God is wholly transcendent, that is, he is far removed from his creation. He did not create the material universe because it was instead created by an evil or lesser God, sometimes called a "demiurge". God is thus too perfect and pure to have much to do with the evilness of the material universe.
Humanity
Gnostics believed that human beings were "sparks" or "droplets" of the very same spiritual substance (or essence) that God is. Somehow we we became trapped in our physical bodies from which we are to escape.
The Fall
All Gnostics agreed that The Fall was identical to the fall into matter. In other words, creation and The Fall coincide. "As long as spirits are trapped in physical bodies and materiality, they will be subject to sin, which is caused by ignorance of their true nature and home."
Salvation
Gnosticism commonly held that "salvation is to escape from the bondage of the material existence and travel back to the home from which souls/spirits have fallen." God initiates salvation because he wants to draw back the stray bits and pieces of himself, and so he sends forth an emanation of himself - "a spiritual redeemer" - who comes down from heaven and gives an attempt to teach some of the "divine sparks of Spirit" what their true identity is and where their real home lies. Once they are awakened by this redeemer they can then begin their journey back home. "Salvation is by knowledge - self-knowledge."
 
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Burn the witch!
No way some early Christian's could have had a couple good ideas. I said "a couple", not all.
 
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Satan was cast here before us. So Satan being represented at the tree is wild to think about. It was the gateway to this fallen reality.
 

T_Laurich

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Luke 24:39
Satan was cast here before us. So Satan being represented at the tree is wild to think about. It was the gateway to this fallen reality.
where do you get that, Bible verse?
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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Satan was cast here before us. So Satan being represented at the tree is wild to think about. It was the gateway to this fallen reality.
Job Chapter 1. Satan has access to heaven and speaks to God. This is well after the creation of mankind.
 
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Sorry, how is this saying he wasn't cast here before us?