Because of your paradigm . All you are seeing is . " The unsaved man cannot believe the Gospel unless he's zapped first " There is no verses that says this ,so calvinism has taken 1 cor 2.14 ever since and most assume this is talking about a lost man . And ' spiritual ' has been twisted to mean " man has Holy Spirit ' instead of ' mature ' . Then we read in just a few verses along The immature believer cannot understand the things of the Spirit and I'm the idiot? So we have 3 people. This Random non sequitur in verse 14 . But Chapter 3 literally says the same thing about believers not understanding the things of the Spirit and being unable. I realise ' the natural man ' is the most used verse in Christianity ' but Paul is not saying " the unsaved cannot believe the Gospel .
What does 'Repent' mean ?
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I thought we were all born into the world enemies , haters , dead , ect . 'Natural ' is not a negative. The Quickening ' as we should realise from hundreds of other verses happened After we believed. The idea isn't that we were asleep one night and God zapped us randomly and then we woke up in the morning " oh , I think I believe in Jesus , how did that happen? , I must have been regenerated in the night " .
" The natural man '
or as Calvinists read 'Man without the Holy Spirit '. I see Calvinists are ok with isolated verses used once to mean way more than whats plainly written. I think its clear that I do understand how some read this verse . I get the argument. I clearly saying I disagree . So you don't need to keep labouring on the same explanation. I Know calvinists see " The unbeliever cannot believe the Gospel, because he is not born again yet . ( Regeneration precedes faith) Which is the most absurd idea to have ever come out of Christianity. The problem is Christainity has gotten so used to this idea ( like a frog in boiling water ) that we think its normal . You think this is normal so your surprised that don't believe it . Thats because you have fallen for the ' logical order of necessity ' rather than deriving the idea from what the bible says .
or as Calvinists read 'Man without the Holy Spirit '. I see Calvinists are ok with isolated verses used once to mean way more than whats plainly written. I think its clear that I do understand how some read this verse . I get the argument. I clearly saying I disagree . So you don't need to keep labouring on the same explanation. I Know calvinists see " The unbeliever cannot believe the Gospel, because he is not born again yet . ( Regeneration precedes faith) Which is the most absurd idea to have ever come out of Christianity. The problem is Christainity has gotten so used to this idea ( like a frog in boiling water ) that we think its normal . You think this is normal so your surprised that don't believe it . Thats because you have fallen for the ' logical order of necessity ' rather than deriving the idea from what the bible says .
Why do you believe that some teach man helps God regenerate him ? In your mind is it like " ok Holy Spirit, left a bit , keep coming , to the right , bit more , bit more , keep coming , that's it ,your in now. Ok, now God can you just tweak that peace , justification and righteousness a little bit higher, that's it . And could you apply the blood a little more over there you missed a spot . " thank you God ,hi five "
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I suggest you read scripture and ask the Holy Spirit to help you understand.
That is what I have been doing...I don’t always get the understanding in an instance,I believe in faith that I will receive it....God knows your heart and if you truly desire to understand he will help you,he truly will.
That is my belief....remember the Holy Spirit is a person.
That is what I have been doing...I don’t always get the understanding in an instance,I believe in faith that I will receive it....God knows your heart and if you truly desire to understand he will help you,he truly will.
That is my belief....remember the Holy Spirit is a person.
The faith in view is the eternal faith of God. His faith works in us as the power of God repenting us to both will and do His good pleasure .Of our own self we have no power to repent .Its all one work of salvation or regeneration. Not multiple steps to believe
Philipians1:6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ: .
Repent means to turn away into the opposite direction.
You can repent headed East and instead head west.
You can repent of bad thoughts and think righteous ones.
You can repent of doing something evil, and choose to do good.
In English, from a biblical standpoint, repentance is most often understood to turn away from wicked thoughts, false doctrine, and fruits of the flesh and instead pursue truth and righteousness.
You can repent headed East and instead head west.
You can repent of bad thoughts and think righteous ones.
You can repent of doing something evil, and choose to do good.
In English, from a biblical standpoint, repentance is most often understood to turn away from wicked thoughts, false doctrine, and fruits of the flesh and instead pursue truth and righteousness.
Salvation.
God performing his work of faith or a labor of His love that he works in us to both will and empower us to perform that which is appointed to us. Work with the power that works in us yoked with Him . Do so without murmuring like that of Jonas who wanted to die. .
Christ in us makes the burden lighter.
Philippians 2:12-14 King James Version (KJV)13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure. Do all things without murmurings and disputings:
When we are angry with God. Looking for fault in people is not the answer. It will not remove the Log from ones own eye.
Pray for a wiling spirit.
Jonah 4;1-4 King James Version (KJV) But it displeased Jonah exceedingly, and he was very angry.And he prayed unto the Lord, and said, I pray thee, O Lord, was not this my saying, when I was yet in my country? Therefore I fled before unto Tarshish: for I knew that thou art a gracious God, and merciful, slow to anger, and of great kindness, and repentest thee of the evil. Therefore now, O Lord, take, I beseech thee, my life from me; for it is better for me to die than to live.Then said the Lord, Doest thou well to be angry?
Man's anger does not bring about the righteous life he desires of us. Anger blinds the minds of those who resist the promoting of the Holy Spirit
God performing his work of faith or a labor of His love that he works in us to both will and empower us to perform that which is appointed to us. Work with the power that works in us yoked with Him . Do so without murmuring like that of Jonas who wanted to die. .
Christ in us makes the burden lighter.
Philippians 2:12-14 King James Version (KJV)13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure. Do all things without murmurings and disputings:
When we are angry with God. Looking for fault in people is not the answer. It will not remove the Log from ones own eye.
Pray for a wiling spirit.
Jonah 4;1-4 King James Version (KJV) But it displeased Jonah exceedingly, and he was very angry.And he prayed unto the Lord, and said, I pray thee, O Lord, was not this my saying, when I was yet in my country? Therefore I fled before unto Tarshish: for I knew that thou art a gracious God, and merciful, slow to anger, and of great kindness, and repentest thee of the evil. Therefore now, O Lord, take, I beseech thee, my life from me; for it is better for me to die than to live.Then said the Lord, Doest thou well to be angry?
Man's anger does not bring about the righteous life he desires of us. Anger blinds the minds of those who resist the promoting of the Holy Spirit
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Yes two turnings .First according to His will he turn us to will or hear his voice and then he empowers us to perform it . (Philippian 2:12-13)
Without him we can do nothing. He is our confidence, We are to put 0% in respect to corrupted flesh and blood.
Philippians 1:6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:
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Gen 33:28, And he (God) said, thy name shall be no more called Jacob, but Israel. Rom 9:11, For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, THAT THE PURPOSE OF GOD ACCORDING TO ELECTION MIGHT STAND, not of works, but of him who calleth.
Luke 10:21, In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and revealed them unto babes, even so, Father, for so it seemed good in thy sight. All scripture must harmonize in order to understand the truths that were taught in the doctrine of Jesus Christ.
Luke 10:21, In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and revealed them unto babes, even so, Father, for so it seemed good in thy sight. All scripture must harmonize in order to understand the truths that were taught in the doctrine of Jesus Christ.
I am thinking that you know more about the meaning of the scriptures than you portray. You start many threads, written in such a manner to provoke anyone to respond, just to toy with their answers, with "off the wall" comments, which make you seem to be very ignorant of the scriptures, in which, I, personally, don't think you are that ignorant of them.
This, being your purpose, it becomes futel in continually repeating explanation of scriptures to you.
This, being your purpose, it becomes futel in continually repeating explanation of scriptures to you.