What does the Bible say about confession of sin to a priest?

MikeHenderson · Nov 30, 2015

I feel sorry for you ThomistColin because i can see that God has turned His back on you.

God does allow us to believe in anything we want because we have free will. But with this free will also comes judgement for what we have done. Those who follow God will be rewarded in Heaven. Those who do not follow God will be punished in the Lake of Fire.

From what i have read from you Catholics, i do not see the Indwelling of the Holy Spirit in you. Its not about what Catholicism teaches, its all about what God says in His Scriptures that have the Ultimate authority.

I have seem many lies taught here by the Catholics. The one major thing that has kept you Catholics from seeing the Truth is your worship of Mary.

Until you ThomistColin reject the teachings of Catholicism about Mary, you will never have the Truth and you will continue to walk in darkness for the rest of your life. God loves you so much that He is willing to allow you to walk away from Him.

posthuman · Nov 30, 2015

how did this turn from a thread about a specific subject -- confession to a priest or not, and whether we are all priests or there is biblical support for a division into clergy/laity -- into a bunch of attacks on Thom?

y'all need to step back and make some effort to love and to live peaceably. Thom loves Christ -- he's your brother. if you take issue with the papacy and the Roman system, there are pinned threads to talk about that in. we don't need to make this thread a personal attack on someone. OK? if you have issue with doctrine, attack doctrine; not people.

ThomistColin is not the Catholic Church. he's a person, and a fellow-worker in Christ.

MikeHenderson · Nov 30, 2015

ThomistColin is not the Catholic Church but ThomistColin does teach what Catholicism says.

ThomistColin is not a follow-worker in Christ, because he teaches the commandments of men as Doctrines from God, so no, ThomistColin is not a True Christian. No one can call themselves a Christian and teach Mary is our Mediator. No one can call themselves a Christian and teach Mary was born without sin. No one can call themselves a Christian and teach Mary was assumed into Heaven. No one can call themselves a Christian and teach Mary can hear all the prayers of everybody and answer all the prayers of everybody.

We CAN tell a True Christian from a Wolf in sheep clothing. We can tell a True Christian from a false prophet. No matter how you try to sell it posthuman, ThomistColin is not a True Christian and is not a Brother or fellow-worker in Christ. He is a Catholic to the core, not a Christian and probably will never be one.

ThomistColin · Nov 30, 2015

valiant said:

I stated his lies an manipulations.

He said that 99% of the priesthood are child molesters.

He goes to the Catholic Mass every Sunday, and comes on here to attack Catholic teachings. One of these actions is a lie or a manipulation.

These are what he is accused of.

Vdp · Dec 1, 2015

Are you saying that no Catholic Priest ever molested a child ThomistColin?

How can you say its a lie to say 99% of the Catholic Priests molest Children when the Pope and other have hidden the Catholic Priest from the Law and have destroyed all evidence that they did molest children.

For all we know 99% may be the correct amount. Prove to us 99% is a wrong amount. Tell us ThomistColin exactly how many Catholic Priests did molest children?

Stephen63 · Dec 1, 2015

IMO, if folks stay with the facts, & not stretch them for the sake of making a point, the listeners on this thread can make good decisions on what to receive, & what to reject. As I write this right now, there's only 2 people in here, & I'm one of them, & I'm leaving. Who are you helping then?

CS1 · Dec 1, 2015

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[TD]Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.[/TD]
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This is the reason why we would confess our faults. As far as why to a priest in the catholic church? that would be the same reason you would to your Pastor. Also church traditions is another reason. The historical context why the RCC does it is a good study.

MikeHenderson · Dec 2, 2015

1 John 1:9
[SUP]9 [/SUP] If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

We are to confess our sins to God, not to a Catholic Priest.

Also James 5:16 says to confess one to another. I have spent many years in the Catholic Church and many years confessing my sins to a Catholic Priest and not one time did the Priest ever confess his sins to me!

The Catholics love to quote Scriptures but hate putting those Scriptures into their daily living.

If the Catholic Church really did believe James 5:16, then all the Priests would confess their sins to us also!

As it stands, Catholics love to play at being a Christian but hate following what God says.

Babylonisfalling · Dec 2, 2015

Vdp said:

Then you should be requesting prayer rather than humoring your hate.

Vdp · Dec 3, 2015

My hate is toward those who corrupt the Word of God to deceive people into Worshiping other gods like Mary. My hate is towards all those who do their best to try and destroy Christianity for their love of power and Gold.

Babylonisfalling · Dec 3, 2015

So you're a good and righteous hater.

Mec99 · Dec 3, 2015

Tell us Babylonisfalling, are you Catholic?

ThomistColin · Dec 3, 2015

Mec99 said:

Interesting, a man disagrees with the hateful way that Vdp is speaking, and your suspicious of such an act? He must be a Catholic, because Christians would only cheer on anger and hate?

biblicalsandy · Dec 3, 2015

ThomistColin said:

I am a christian, and not all christian cheer on anger, and hate. Saddens me to see God's creation in such division, when I see uproar..I just choose to focus on my walk, and I leave the conversation..But please, like you don't like to be labeled by someone else's actions..Neither do I! Thank you, and may Jesus bring you home!

ThomistColin · Dec 3, 2015

biblicalsandy said:

I understand. My point is that I've never understood the witch hunt mentality. "Only witches defend witches" in essence.

epostle · Dec 4, 2015

MikeHenderson said:

You can go to the priest for confession if you want to, he just can't give you absolution since you are not Catholic, but he will provide spiritual direction you can take it or leave it. The prayer of the penitent who first walks in to the confessional is, "Bless me father, for I have sinned, I confess to Almighty God, and to you father, these are my sins..."
Your "many years" in the Church and you don't know what you are talking about.

The context of "one to another" does not obligate Christians to confess shameful sins to Ms. Gossip. I spent 30 years in many non-Catholic churches, bible studies, non-denominational/evangelical churches and NOBODY confesses their sins one to another. They may get counselling from a pastor, but no Protestant pastor can grant absolution. Plus, you are leaving out important context of James 5:14-15

13 Is anyone among you suffering? He should pray. Is anyone in good spirits? He should sing praise. 14 Is anyone among you sick?[f]He should summon the presbyters (priests) of the church, and they should pray over him and anoint [him] with oil in the name of the Lord, 15 and the prayer of faith will save the sick person, and the Lord will raise him up. If he has committed any sins, he will be forgiven.

Going directly to God for minor sins is fine and dandy, but an HONEST look at these verses says nothing about confessing only to God, nor does it say to confess to just anybody. Priests are included in the "one to another", they are not a separate class of Christians that anti-Catholics make them out to be, but they have specific ministerial duties not shared by the universal priesthood.

First, your "many years" in the Church does not qualify you to make dogmatic declarations on the Catholic faith.
Second, "many years" could mean you abandoned your faith after the 8th grade.
Third, being a Catholic by inertia or by ethnicity does not mean you were a Catholic by practice. That's an identity, not what you believed. Catholics who are properly catechized, believe and live their faith don't fall for slick evangelical tactics and emotionally driven alter calls. Based on the hate and lies you have posted, I have a hard time believing you were any kind of Catholic at all. Do you realize you have dishonored your parents by your apostasy? Or are you angry at the Church because you cannot take it out on your dysfunctional family?

"not one time did the Priest ever confess his sins to me!" is just immaturity. You are not ordained and have no concept of the seal of the confessional. Lines like this is one of many reasons why I have serious doubts of your claim to have been a Catholic "for many years". People use "I used to be a Catholic" to give credibility to a phony testimony.

You declare yourself God to know the state of the souls of Catholics. Catholics, even the Pope, doesn't make such infallible judgments on anybody. Only God can judge souls and you need to stop making yourself equal to God.

You don't confess your sins "one to another" one single bit, yet here you are accusing Catholics of "hate putting those Scriptures into their daily living". The scriptural basis to obtain forgiveness through the Sacrament of Reconciliation are numerous and compelling. Anti-Catholics, if they want to object, can only dance around them and trip over their feet.

TEXT without CONTEXT is a PRETEXT.

Does that include your less than perfect parents?

Given the bullying nature of your posts, are you socially functional enough to even belong to a church?

KenAllan · Dec 4, 2015

I find it interesting that everything epostle is saying is his opinion of what he wants God to say.

We do know for a fact no Catholic likes what God says in the Scriptures. They are always constantly fighting against the Truth in the Scriptures from God to justify their teachings as doctrines the commandments of men.

When will you learn epostle that you are fighting against God?

Matthew 15:8-9
[SUP]8 [/SUP] “‘This people honors me with their lips, but their heart is far from me;
[SUP]9 [/SUP] in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’”

You really need to study these verses over and over again epostle because they do speak a lot about you and the Catholic Church.

Again!

Matthew 15:8-9
[SUP]8 [/SUP] “‘This people honors me with their lips, but their heart is far from me;
[SUP]9 [/SUP] in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’”

And Again epostle!

Matthew 15:8-9
[SUP]8 [/SUP] “‘This people honors me with their lips, but their heart is far from me;
[SUP]9 [/SUP] in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’”

In Vain you worship God epostle because He refuses to listen to your prayers.

KenAllan · Dec 4, 2015

The witch hunt is from the Catholics ThomistColin. Its the Catholics ThomistColin who teach the commandments of men as Doctrines from God.

Matthew 15:8-9
[SUP]8 [/SUP] “‘This people honors me with their lips, but their heart is far from me;
[SUP]9 [/SUP] in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’”
The doctrine of Mary being our Mediator is from the commandments of men in the Catholic Church, not from God.

When will you ThomistColin learn its God you are fighting against?

epostle · Dec 4, 2015

KenAllan said:

I am entitled to my opinions the same as you are. It's supposed to be a discussion forum, but actually its more like a back alley mugging.

Through thick and thin: Pope urges youths to read the Bible

That isn't true. We are defending and explaining what has been handed down to us from the Apostles. Most of what you think is Catholic teaching is false. You are too proud to be corrected. You do not want a discussion, you want to bully Catholics.

I am not fighting anything, I just don't put up with your blind prejudice and arrogance. That's why you are on my ignore list.

You scourge My Lord with scripture!

In vain they worship, or think they worship God, who neglect the divine commandments to observe the commands of men. We must not here suppose that Christ censures the commands of the Church, or the tradition of the apostles, because these are in nowise contrary to the divine law, but rather serve to enforce it, and reduce it to practice; nor are they so much the commands of men, as of God, delivered to us by his ambassadors. Christ censures such as are merely human, such as those mentioned here, which are vain and futile, as the superstitious washing of hands; or erroneous, as that the soul is defiled by meat; or openly contrary to natural and divine law, as the defrauding parents of their just support. (Tirinus)
--- It is evidently erroneous to argue from this text against apostolic traditions. St. Paul tells the Thessalonians, to stand fast, and hold the traditions which they had been taught, whether by word of mouth or by epistles. (2 Thessalonians ii. 14.) --- Commandments of men. The doctrines and commandments here reprehended, are such as are either contrary to the law of God, (as that of neglecting parents, under pretence of giving to God) or at least are frivolous, unprofitable, and no ways conducing to true piety, as that of often washing hands, &c. without regard to the purity of the heart. But as to the rules and ordinances of the holy Church, touching fasts, festivals, &c. these are no ways repugnant to, but highly agreeable to God's holy word, and all Christian piety; neither are they to be counted among the doctrines and commandments of men, because they proceed not from mere human authority, but from that which Christ has established in his Church; whose pastors he has commanded us to hear and obey, even as himself.
Haydock's commentary

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]The Church does not teach anyone to neglect their parents, KenAllen. Just the opposite. You are so bound and bent on mindless Catholic bashing you can't see straight,[/FONT] especially your own verses.

KenAllan · Dec 5, 2015

You are entitled to YOUR opinions epostle, BUT you are not entitled to pass off your opinions as Truths from God!

Teaching Mary was without sin, teaching Mary is our Mediator, teaching Mary was assumed into Heaven IS teaching the commandments of men as Doctrines from God epostle.

And because the Catholic Church teaches this God refuses to listen to the Prayers from the Catholic Church! In Vain you are worshiping God epostle because God refuses to listen to you as long as you keep teaching the lies of the Catholic Church.

There is a difference between reading the Bible and actually accepting as Truth what God says in the Bible. God has said ALL have sinned epostle and ALL includes Mary also epostle.

And you are so bound and bent on doing the will of Satan that you have lost sight of God and His Truths in the Bible!

There is only one Authority and He is God, not God and Mary! Only the Scriptures from God has the Truth epostle, not the teachings of the Catholic Church.

Did you know epostle if a Priest has a question he cannot answer he HAS to see FIRST what the Catholic Church says, then second he looks at what the Saints have said and then after all this he can look at the Scriptures to see what God says.

In the True Christian churches we FIRST look in the Scriptures to see what God says, not the last thing like you Catholics do!

Grow up epostle, repent and accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior before its too late!

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