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I am not asking for your opinion. I'm asking what your belief about the whole picture is. Just to prove to you that I'm not just pulling ideas out of the air but using scripture:

Heb 1: 4 Being made so much better than the angels, as He hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.
Being made is self explainatory. By inheritance means that He was the first born being and just like Old Testament times inherits the Father's blessings and privileges.


Isaiah 45: 11-12 Thus saith the Lord, the Holy One of Israel, and His Maker: Ask me of things to come concerning my sons; and concerning the work of my hands, command ye me. I have made the earth, and created man upon it; I, even my hands, have stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded. The Lord, the Holy One of Israel, is the Christ, and His Maker is the Father.
The HOLY ONE of Israel is the Maker of Israel = thus saith the LORD(Jesus) the HOLY One of Israel and its Maker.
 
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YHVH-Elohim is His name!
Many many jw's and other groups will be 'surprised' to say the least,
when Isaiah 45:22-23
is on His Throne and they are on their knees confessing JESUS is YHWH = Philipians 2:5-11
 
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#44
Many many jw's and other groups will be 'surprised' to say the least,
when Isaiah 45:22-23
is on His Throne and they are on their knees confessing JESUS is YHWH = Philipians 2:5-11
He is one and He is three
I saw because I see
 

Magenta

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#46
He lowered His station to that of a human, but if He was God in
human form, wouldn't He still be God and be superior to the angels?
Who, existing in the form of God, did not consider equality with God something to be grasped, but
emptied Himself, taking the form of a servant, being made in human likeness. And being found in
appearance as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient to death—even death on a cross.
Phil 2:6-8



Philippians2-5-11
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#47
"Let Us make man in Our image." - from Genesis 1:26
 
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#50
He was not talking to angels!
Who has measured the waters in the hollow of His hand,
Measured heaven with a span
And calculated the dust of the earth in a measure?
Weighed the mountains in scales
And the hills in a balance?
Who has directed the Spirit of the Lord,
Or as His counselor has taught Him?
With whom did He take counsel, and who instructed Him,
And taught Him in the path of justice?
Who taught Him knowledge,
And showed Him the way of understanding? - Isaiah 40:12-14

Thus says the Lord:
“Heaven is My throne,
And earth is My footstool.
Where is the house that you will build Me?
And where is the place of My rest?
For all those things My hand has made,
And all those things exist,”
Says the Lord.
“But on this one will I look:
On him who is poor and of a contrite spirit,
And who trembles at My word.
Isaiah 66:1-2
 
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#51
"Let Us make man in Our image." - from Genesis 1:26
Your words/Posts have spurred my heart today - thank you my Brother

Blind as blind could be
SOMEONE told me i could see
HE said to me 'Come take a Look'
so i did and i opened the Good Book

There and Behold, just as i was Told, SOMEONE who looked like me
How can that be - HE who looked like me - How can GOD be so simple and FREE?
Though HE walked this earth no sin was attached to His Birth
HE walked and talked so FREE - certainly not like me!
my heart began to fear for my sin was everywhere - HE was not like me!!!
HE took my hand and said "Look and SEE" - for now my sin was upon that TREE
Oh what Great Loss was upon that Cross for my sin was now on HE
i cried and cried watching Him die, His Place offered for me
Oh what sin was upon HIM, dying on that TREE - all this HE did for me

may i yield to HIM for HE is WORTH more then this world could ever birth
HIS Will from Heaven to be done on this earth
How can this be in a nobody like me???
HE told me this, so that i can SEE
the SPIRIT of TRUTH will come, True REST from Above
Spreading His Wings in the TREE of the Dove
for those HE Loves now will SEE
 

Magenta

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#52
Thus says the Lord:
“Heaven is My throne,
And earth is My footstool.
Where is the house that you will build Me?
And where is the place of My rest?
For all those things My hand has made,
And all those things exist,”
Says the Lord.
“But on this one will I look:
On him who is poor and of a contrite spirit,
And who trembles at My word.
Isaiah 66:1-2

From Isaiah 66:1-2
Thank you for the inspiration :)

PS~ Oops! I will fix the missing quotation mark...
 

soberxp

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#53
Many followers say that Jesus is God, but they are wrong. Jesus is the human as us, but unlike us, Jesus was born from the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of God really lives in him, and Jesus and the Spirit of God unite into one, this can be seen from the fact that Peter saw Jesus walking on the sea. Jesus said Peter can do the same. Peter did take two steps on the sea. But in the end Peter fell into the sea because of fear. Should we also say that Peter can walk on the surface of the sea? is Peter God?
Some people say that only God is innocent, Jesus can not died for our sin if he is not God. Jesus has expressed this to The Pharisees. can't God forgive sin?. So Jesus was innocent, and he took on our transgression for us.
Jesus is the image of the invisible God.
When we see Jesus, we see God. But this does not mean that Jesus is the only one God.
It is that the son and the Father are United as one, just as we are United with Jesus as one, but we are not Jesus and we are not God.
 

Aerials1978

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#54
Many followers say that Jesus is God, but they are wrong. Jesus is the human as us, but unlike us, Jesus was born from the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of God really lives in him, and Jesus and the Spirit of God unite into one, this can be seen from the fact that Peter saw Jesus walking on the sea. Jesus said Peter can do the same. Peter did take two steps on the sea. But in the end Peter fell into the sea because of fear. Should we also say that Peter can walk on the surface of the sea? is Peter God?
Some people say that only God is innocent, Jesus can not died for our sin if he is not God. Jesus has expressed this to The Pharisees. can't God forgive sin?. So Jesus was innocent, and he took on our transgression for us.
Jesus is the image of the invisible God.
When we see Jesus, we see God. But this does not mean that Jesus is the only one God.
It is that the son and the Father are United as one, just as we are United with Jesus as one, but we are not Jesus and we are not God.
It completely amazes me that peoples theology is still this convoluted.