What is “the day of the Lord" / “the Day of YHWH"

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What is “the day of the Lord" / “the Day of YHWH"

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nddreamer

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The day of the Lord called the times of refreshing or restitution of all things in Acts 3:19-21 is when our Lord returns and we as dust are blown away.
 

Hizikyah

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The day of the Lord called the times of refreshing or restitution of all things in Acts 3:19-21 is when our Lord returns and we as dust are blown away.
We should be the ones brought up with Him and not blown away but I agree with the principle.

Acts 3:19-21, “Repent therefore and turn back, for the blotting out of your sins, in order that times of refreshing might come from the presence of the Master, and that He sends יהושע Messiah, pre-appointed for you, whom heaven needs to receive until the times of restoration of all matters, of which YHWH spoke through the mouth of all His set-apart prophets since of old.”


Malachi 4:1-6, "4:1, "“For look, the day shall come, *burning like a furnace, and all the proud, and every wrongdoer shall be stubble. And the day that shall come shall burn them up,” said יהוה of hosts, “which leaves to them neither root nor branch."4:2, "“But to you who fear My Name the Sun of Righteousness shall arise with healing in His wings. And you shall go out and leap for joy like calves from the stall."4:3, "“And you shall trample the wrongdoers, for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet on the day that I do this,” said יהוה of hosts."4:4, "“Remember the Torah of Mosheh, My servant, which I commanded him in Ḥorĕḇ for all Yisra’yl – laws and right-rulings."4:5, "“See, I am sending you Ěliyah the prophet before the coming of the great and awesome day of יהוה."4:6, "“And he shall turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the hearts of the children to their fathers, lest I come and strike the earth with utter destruction.”


 

nddreamer

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Dear Hizikyah, Trampling wrongdoers and having them be ashes under my feet just is not at all appealing to me. If I'm miraculously saved, I plan to be AWOL for this.
 

Hizikyah

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Dear Hizikyah, Trampling wrongdoers and having them be ashes under my feet just is not at all appealing to me. If I'm miraculously saved, I plan to be AWOL for this.
I was using that verse to show those that enter the kingdom will not be dust, but thse against Yah will be. I definitly understand it is not pretty, but I don;t think it;s optional:

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Revelation 19:7-9, “Let us be glad and rejoice and give Him praise, for the marriage of the Lamb has come, and His wife prepared herself. And to her it was given to be dressed in fine linen, clean and bright, for the fine linen is the righteousness of the set-apart ones. And he said to me, “Write, ‘Blessed are those who have been called to the marriage supper of the Lamb!’ And he said to me, “These are the true words of [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[FONT=Times New Roman, serif].”[/FONT][/FONT]





[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Revelation 19:11-16, “And I saw the heaven opened, and there was a white horse. And He who sat on him was called Trustworthy and True, and in righteousness He judges and fights. And His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on His head were many crowns, having a Name that had been written, which no one had perceived except Himself – and having been dressed in a robe dipped in blood (Isaiah 63:2) and His Name is called: The Word of [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]. And the armies in the heaven, dressed in fine linen, white and clean, followed Him on white horses. And out of His mouth goes a sharp sword, that with it He should smite the nations. And He shall shepherd them with a rod of iron. And He treads the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of the Almighty Strength. And on His robe and on His thigh He has a name written: SOVEREIGN OF SOVEREIGNS AND MASTER OF MASTERS.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 Corinthians 6:1-6, “Should any of you, holding a matter against another, go to be judged before the unrighteous, and not before the set-apart ones? Do you not know that the set-apart ones shall judge the world? And if the world is judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smallest matters? Do you not know that we shall judge messengers (angels/fallen angels)? How much more, matters of this life? If then you truly have judgments of this life, do you appoint them as judges who are least esteemed by the assembly? I say this to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise one among you, not even one, who shall be able to judge between his brothers? But brother against brother goes to be judged and that before unbelievers!”[/FONT]​
 

nddreamer

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This sounds a bit better but I'm wondering if the roles of men and women will be much altered in heaven. There is no marriage (Matt. 22:30). That's understood. But when God sent his angels to interact with the men and women of the earth, all of them were male. It just stands to reason that all will be expected to follow their same roles there as well as here. When the Lord gathers together his armies to dole out judgment on the earth (Rev. 19:14-21), I'm believing they'll all be men.
So "the armies in heaven, dressed in fine linen, white and clean, followed Him on white horses". Who then is the white horseman of Rev. 6:2? If white means righteous, how could anyone believe this is Satan? This Book was written to glorify the Father and the Son. Not Satan.
 

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The time of the Lords coming can be referred to the day of the Lord or the moment of His appearing. So what? No one knows the day or the hour. We are told to be ready and wait for that day.
But as far as the Sabbath of the Lord goes, it is clear that it is Saturday. The 7th day is the holy day that was sanctified. We can know which day that is and keep it holy by obeying His command.
 

Hizikyah

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This sounds a bit better but I'm wondering if the roles of men and women will be much altered in heaven. There is no marriage (Matt. 22:30). That's understood. But when God sent his angels to interact with the men and women of the earth, all of them were male. It just stands to reason that all will be expected to follow their same roles there as well as here. When the Lord gathers together his armies to dole out judgment on the earth (Rev. 19:14-21), I'm believing they'll all be men.
So "the armies in heaven, dressed in fine linen, white and clean, followed Him on white horses". Who then is the white horseman of Rev. 6:2? If white means righteous, how could anyone believe this is Satan? This Book was written to glorify the Father and the Son. Not Satan.
Rev 6:2 And I looked, and behold, a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer. NKJV

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“A white horse,” there is another part of revelation that mentions a white horse;
Revelation 19:11-16, “11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse, and He Who sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness He judges and makes war. His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on His head were many crowns. And He had a Name written that no man knew, but He Himself. And He was wrapped in a tallit dipped in blood, and the Name of Him is called: Yahshua--The Salvation of Yahweh. And the armies in heaven clothed in fine linen, white and clean, followed Him upon white horses, And out of His mouth goes a sharp, two-edged sword, that with it He should strike the nations; and He will rule over them with a rod of iron; and He treads the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty Yahweh. And He has on His tallit and on His banner a name written: KING OF KINGS AND RULER OF RULERS.”

Because of this many people think that this “white horse” from Revelation 6:2 is Yahshua. There is a number of similarities; white horse, crown and conquering. But let us slow down a bit and consider another possibility. This first one who sat upon a white horse had a bow, which represents power, but there is no mention of him actually being the Messiah or being “faithful and true” as the real Messiah is described. The Messiah’s return is not until after all the seals, trumpets and vials. Also it is the Messiah Himself who opens all seven seals, which include all four “horseman.” No this first “white horse” is not the Messiah, it is an impostor, portraying himself to be holy. Remember all the seals, trumpets and vials are judgments, plagues, evil powers or things of this nature and only after they have all been loosed will the Messiah return. So who could this impostor be?

1 John 2:18, “Little children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the Anti-Messiah will come, even now there are many Anti-Messiahs; by this we know that this is the last hour.”

An anti-Messiah is one who is against the Messiah, against what He stands for and what He teaches. But remember this “white horse” is trying to act like the real Messiah. A counterfeit messiah-impostor who acts holy but in reality is not. First, is there anyone on earth who claims to be in the place of the Messiah? Second, are their acts holy?

John/Yahanan 10:16, "And I have other sheep that are not of this fold. I must bring them also, and they will listen to My voice. So there will be one flock, one Shepherd (4166 –poimén)."

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The Catholic Encyclopedia, Volume XV, 1912 (Lat. Vicarius Christi) Vicar of Christ
A title of the pope implying his supreme and universal primacy, both of honour and of jurisdiction, over the Church of Christ. It is founded on the words of the Divine Shepherd to St. Peter: "Feed my lambs. . . . Feed my sheep" (John 21:16-17), by which He constituted the Prince of the Apostles guardian of His entire flock in His own place, thus making him His Vicar and fulfilling the promise made in Matthew 16:18-19.In the course of the ages other vicarial designations have been used for the pope, as Vicar of St. Peter and even Vicar of the Apostolic See (Pope Gelasius, I, Ep. vi), but the title Vicar of Christ is more expressive of his supreme headship of the Church on earth, which he bears in virtue of the commission of Christ and with vicarial power derived from Him. Thus, Innocent III appeals for his power to remove bishops to the fact that he is Vicar of Christ (cap. "Inter corporalia", 2, "De trans. ep."). He also declares that Christ has given such power only to His Vicar Peter and his successors (cap. "Quanto", 3, ibid.), and states that it is the Roman Pontiff who is "the successor of Peter and the Vicar of Jesus Christ" (cap. "Licet", 4, ibid.). The title Vicar of God used for the pope by Nicholas III (c. "Fundamenta ejus", 17, "De elect.", in 6) is employed as an equivalent for Vicar of Christ.”

Matthew 23:9, “And call no man your father (G3962 patér) on earth, for you have one Father, who is in heaven.”

Catholic Dictionary 1910 (Greek: papas, form of pappas, father) Pope
“Title of the Supreme Head of the Church founded by Christ...” He is entitled Vicar of Christ, Head of the Church, Father of all the Faithful, Supreme or Sovereign Pontiff, His Holiness, Servant of the Servants of God, the Fisherman, after the calling of the Apostles and their designation by Christ as fishers of men. He wears the tiara, or triple crown. He ranks as first of Christian princes, and his ambassadors have precedence over other members of the diplomatic body. The office of the pope brings him into contact with civil rulers and legislatures insomuch as they may regulate temporal affairs affecting religion...”


Catholic Encyclopedia, Volume XII 911 Pope
(Ecclesiastical Latin papa from Greek papas, a variant of pappas father, in classical Latin pappas -- Juvenal, "Satires" 6:633).The title pope, once used with far greater latitude (see below, section V), is at present employed solely to denote the Bishop of Rome, who, in virtue of his position as successor of St. Peter, is the chief pastor of the whole Church, the Vicar of Christ upon earth. Besides the bishopric of the Roman Diocese, certain other dignities are held by the pope as well as the supreme and universal pastorate: he is Archbishop of the Roman Province, Primate of Italy and the adjacent islands, and sole Patriarch of the Western Church. The Church's doctrine as to the pope was authoritatively declared in the Vatican Council in the Constitution "Pastor Aeternus". The four chapters of that Constitution deal respectively with the office of Supreme Head conferred on St. Peter, the perpetuity of this office in the person of the Roman pontiff, the pope's jurisdiction over the faithful, and his supreme authority to define in all questions of faith and morals. This last point has been sufficiently discussed in the article INFALLIBILITY, and will be only incidentally touched on here.The present article is divided as follows: I. Institution of a Supreme Head by Christ II. Primacy of the Roman See III. Nature and Extent of the Papal Power IV. Jurisdictional Rights and Prerogatives of the Pope V. Primacy of Honour: Titles and Insignia I. INSTITUTION OF A SUPREME HEAD BY CHRIST.”

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Translated from Lucius Ferraris,Prompta Bibliotheca (Ready Library), “Papa,’’ art. 2;

What power has claimed authority to change God’s law? The Papacy. “The Pope is of so great authority and power that he can modify, explain, or interpret even divine laws...The Pope can modify divine law, since his power is not of man, but of God; and he acts as vicegerent of God upon earth.”


N. Summerbell, History of the Christian Church (1873), pg. 415;
What part of the law of God has the Papacy thought to change?
The fourth commandment. NOTE: They [the Catholics] allege the change of the Sabbath into the Lord’s day, contrary, as it seemeth to the Decalogue; and they have no example more in their mouths than the change of the Sabbath. They will needs have the Church’s power to be very great, because it hath dispensed with a precept of the Decalogue. The Augsburg Confession (Lutheran). Part 2. art. 7, in Philip Schaff, The Creeds of Christendom (Harper), Vol. 3, pg. 64. “It [the Roman Catholic Church] reversed the Fourth Commandment by doing away with the Sabbath of God’s word, and instituting Sunday as a holiday.”

Daniyl 7:25, “And he will speak great words against Yahweh, and will wear out; mentally attack to cause to fall away, the saints of Yahweh, and think to change times and Laws; and they will be given into his hand until a time, and times, and the dividing of time.”

This false change was enacted by Emperor Constantine in 325 A.D. at the Council of Nicea.
 

Hizikyah

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 Thessalonians 5:1-11, "5:1, "Now, brothers, as to the times and the seasons, you do not need to be written to."5:2, "For you yourselves know very well that the day of [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]comes as a thief in the night."5:3, "For when they say, “Peace and safety!” then suddenly destruction comes upon them, as labour pains upon a pregnant woman, and they shall not escape."5:4, "But you, brothers, are not in darkness, so that this Day should overtake you as a thief."5:5, "For you are all sons of light and sons of the day. We are not of the night nor of darkness."5:6, "So, then, we should not sleep, as others do, but we should watch and be sober."5:7, "For those who sleep, sleep at night, and those who get drunk are drunk at night."5:8, "But we who are of the day should be sober, putting on the breastplate of belief and love, and as a helmet the expectation of deliverance. Isa 59:17."5:9, "Because the Mighty One did not appoint us to wrath, but to obtain deliverance through our Master [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהושע [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Messiah,"5:10, "who died for us, so that we, whether awake or asleep, should live together with Him."5:11, "Therefore encourage one another, and build up one another, as indeed you do."[/FONT]
 
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Revelation 1:9-10, “I, Yoḥanan, both your brother and co-sharer in pressure, and in the reign and endurance of יהושע Messiah, came to be on the island that is called Patmos for the Word of יהוה and for the witness of יהושע Messiah. I came to be in the Spirit on the Day of יהוה,a and I heard behind me a loud voice, as of a trumpet.

Revelation 8:1-6, "And when He opened the seventh seal, there came to be silence in the heaven for about half an hour. And I saw the seven messengers who stand before יהוה, and to them were given seven trumpets. And another messenger came and stood at the altar, holding a golden censer, and much incense was given to him, that he should offer it with the prayers of all the set-apart ones upon the golden altar which was before the throne. And the smoke of the incense, with the prayers of the set-apart ones, went up before יהוה from the hand of the messenger. And the messenger took the censer, and filled it with fire from the altar, and threw it to the earth. And there were noises, and thunders, and lightnings, and an earthquake. And the seven messengers who held the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound."


Malachi 4:1-6, "4:1, "“For look, the day shall come, burning like a furnace, and all the proud, and every wrongdoer shall be stubble. And the day that shall come shall burn them up,” said יהוה of hosts, “which leaves to them neither root nor branch."4:2, "“But to you who fear My Name the Sun of Righteousness shall arise with healing in His wings. And you shall go out and leap for joy like calves from the stall."4:3, "“And you shall trample the wrongdoers, for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet on the day that I do this,” said יהוה of hosts."4:4, "“Remember the Torah of Mosheh, My servant, which I commanded him in Ḥorĕḇ for all Yisra’yl – laws and right-rulings."4:5, "“See, I am sending you Ěliyah the prophet before the coming of the great and awesome day of יהוה., "“And he shall turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the hearts of the children to their fathers, lest I come and strike the earth with utter destruction.”


Both the Day of YHWH, so am I missing something you are saying? I don't see anything about Sunday here.
good stuff there, the prophets had been prophesying about the coming day of the Lord when it begins saying this

" the day of the Lord" that is mentioned begins in prophecy like these in Isaiah, honestly i believe the prophets are talking about the same thing paul and the apostles peter and John both foretell

in Isaiah you can follow from Isaiah 2 " God is speaking things that havent Been spoken before through Isaiah. things that were spoken, yet not detailed or understood about the eternal Kingdom of Jesus Christ, but He is seeing it from a distant view beforehand, where as the apostles walked with Jesus and understood the fire of baptism, still were foretellin Like Jesus a day of the earths destruction, when all will be held accountable who refuse to repent and believe the Gospel. it builds through the prophets....and unfolds through time from prophet to prophet revealing more. I truly believe the prophets seeing theings regarding the end are all talking of the day of the Lord, so many mention the same day


Isauah 2 For the day of the LORD of hosts shall be upon every one that is proud and lofty, and upon every one that is lifted up; and he shall be brought low....
17And the loftiness of man shall be bowed down, and the haughtiness of men shall be made low: and the LORD alone shall be exalted in that day.......

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And they shall go into the holes of the rocks, and into the caves of the earth, for fear of the LORD, and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth........21To go into the clefts of the rocks, and into the tops of the ragged rocks, for fear of the LORD, and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth."

When you compare Isaiah and all the many times he speaks about it with this from Johns revelation, its clearthat John was still speaking of athe end, the same Jesus spoke of.

revelation 6 "And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a
great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; 13And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. 14And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.

15And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man,
hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; 16And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: 17For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?"

isaiah 13 "Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it.
10For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine.

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And I will punish the world for their evil, and the wicked for their iniquity; and I will cause the arrogancy of the proud to cease, and will lay low the haughtiness of the terrible.

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I will make a man more precious than fine gold; even a man than the golden wedge of Ophir. ( malachis refining fire")
13Therefore I will shake the heavens, and the earth shall remove out of her place, in the wrath of the LORD of hosts, and in the day of his fierce anger.

very few examples which other prolly already Know but you can follow and watch unfold the promises of this prophecy until in revelation, you understand the lake of fire, and the punishment of the devil and His angels in revelation " the heavenly ones to be punished"

because of the war in Heaven we see in revelation, yet isaiah was already speaking of the heavely rebellion being punished.......prophecy is all revealing Gods message and its slowly unfolding until the end....

Isaiah 3420The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, and shall be removed like a cottage; and the transgression thereof shall be heavy upon it; and it shall fall, and not rise again.21And it shall come to pass in that day, that the LORD shall punish the host of the high ones that are on high, and the kings of the earth upon the earth.23Then the moon shall be confounded, and the sun ashamed, when the LORD of hosts shall reign in mount Zion, and in Jerusalem, and before his ancients gloriously." ( also depicted in revelation very detailed)

prophecy all really works together to express the same things.Isaiah speaks many times of this day and others also Jesus taught of it...

matthew 24 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:30And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. ( something many prophets spoke of and also depicted in revelation.)

joel spoke of it " 2 : "
The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.

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And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: (paul quotes this) for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, ( Jesus said " i was sentto preach deliverance) as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call. "( Matthew 28:18-20)


compare what Isauah says to what john says in revelation and several other prophets like joel, and daniel











 

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We should be the ones brought up with Him and not blown away but I agree with the principle.

Acts 3:19-21, “Repent therefore and turn back, for the blotting out of your sins, in order that times of refreshing might come from the presence of the Master, and that He sends יהושע Messiah, pre-appointed for you, whom heaven needs to receive until the times of restoration of all matters, of which YHWH spoke through the mouth of all His set-apart prophets since of old.”


Malachi 4:1-6, "4:1, "“For look, the day shall come, *burning like a furnace, and all the proud, and every wrongdoer shall be stubble. And the day that shall come shall burn them up,” said יהוה of hosts, “which leaves to them neither root nor branch."4:2, "“But to you who fear My Name the Sun of Righteousness shall arise with healing in His wings. And you shall go out and leap for joy like calves from the stall."4:3, "“And you shall trample the wrongdoers, for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet on the day that I do this,” said יהוה of hosts."4:4, "“Remember the Torah of Mosheh, My servant, which I commanded him in Ḥorĕḇ for all Yisra’yl – laws and right-rulings."4:5, "“See, I am sending you Ěliyah the prophet before the coming of the great and awesome day of יהוה."4:6, "“And he shall turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the hearts of the children to their fathers, lest I come and strike the earth with utter destruction.”


I must say that 'trampling on wrongdoers is not a very nice translation and I would rather go with the KJV saying 'treading down the wicked for they will be ashes under the soles of your feet....meaning we shall walk on them. Trampling on them is something else.
 

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I must say that 'trampling on wrongdoers is not a very nice translation and I would rather go with the KJV saying 'treading down the wicked for they will be ashes under the soles of your feet....meaning we shall walk on them. Trampling on them is something else.
Well the original language says:

H6072 עָסַס `acac (aw-sas') v.
1. to squeeze out juice.
2. (figuratively) to trample.
[a primitive root]
KJV: tread down.

Revelation 19:11-16, “And I saw the heaven opened, and there was a white horse. And He who sat on him was called Trustworthy and True, and in righteousness He judges and fights. And His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on His head were many crowns, having a Name that had been written, which no one had perceived except Himself – and having been dressed in a robe dipped in blood (Isaiah 63:2) and His Name is called: The Word of יהוה. And the armies in the heaven, dressed in fine linen, white and clean, followed Him on white horses. And out of His mouth goes a sharp sword, that with it He should smite the nations. And He shall shepherd them with a rod of iron. And He treads the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of the Almighty Strength. And on His robe and on His thigh He has a name written: SOVEREIGN OF SOVEREIGNS AND MASTER OF MASTERS.”

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Revelation 6:15-17, “And the sovereigns of the earth, and the great ones, and the rich ones, and the commanders, and the mighty, and every slave and every free one, hid themselves in the caves and in the rocks of the mountains and said to the mountains and rocks, “Fall on us and hide us (Hos 10:8) from the face of Him sitting on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb, because the great day of His wrath has come, and who is able to stand?”[/FONT]


the treading of the winepresses is not a pretty singt, but it is reality, it has to happen and it should happen.

May YHWH strengthen us nad bring us in, that we may hear:

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 25:23, “His master said to him, ‘Well done, good and faithful servant. You have been faithful over a little; I will set you over much. Enter into the joy of your master.”[/FONT]
 
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[FONT=&quot] His Name is called: The Word of [/FONT][FONT=&quot]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=&quot]. And the armies in the heaven, dressed in fine linen, white and clean, followed Him on white horses. And out of His mouth goes a sharp sword, that with it He should smite the nations. And He shall shepherd them with a rod of iron. And He treads the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of the Almighty Strength. "


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revelation 19 "And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. 15And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. "

Isaiah 63: " Who is this that cometh from Edom, with dyed garments from Bozrah? this that is glorious in his apparel, travelling in the greatness of his strength? I that speak in righteousness, mighty to save.
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Wherefore art thou red in thine apparel, and thy garments like him that treadeth in the winefat?
3I have trodden the winepress alone; and of the people there was none with me: for I will tread them in mine anger, and trample them in my fury; and their blood shall be sprinkled upon my garments, and I will stain all my raiment.
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For the day of vengeance is in mine heart, and the year of my redeemed is come.
5And I looked, and there was none to help; and I wondered that there was none to uphold: therefore mine own arm brought salvation unto me; and my fury, it upheld me.
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And I will tread down the people in mine anger, and make them drunk in my fury, and I will bring down their strength to the earth."


man was given dominion blessed and given the hignest place in His creation and we took that gift and destroyed it with sin we took the good creation and cursed it with violence, deceit, murder, rape, lust, adultery, lies, greed, coveting, selfishness....part of what the Messiah is to do, is Judge all the earth at the day of Judgement. the repentant and merciful will find mercy in His day, the contentious and disobedient will be destroyed with the earth. its why the messiahs foundation is to part from iniquity, were called to repentance through Grace and truth to save us from the punishment of sin and death in the lake of fire because we believe the One God sent for salvation of both Jesw and gentile.

matthew 13 "He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man; 38The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one; 39The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.

40As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. 41The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; 42And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. 43Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

(see matt 24-25)

Jesus....Luke 13:5 " i tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish."

Paul " 2 timothy 2:19 "Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity."

we have to repent of sin because the coming day of total destruction is coming and our time is now in this life to hear the Lord calling us to repentance, because of Jesus we have every reason of the heart to repent and live right before the time comes for recompense. were like noah, God found grace for us, so He sent Jesus to tell us of the coming destruction of the earth, and also to promise the new things of eternal Life. the day of the Lord is also an eternal Thing. if we Love the One who died for us, we will accept His word and Live. God is no longer a blazing fire upon a forbidden mountain, He came to be on of us, to overcome and become our champion, he reached to us through His Son, telling us He is waiting for His child to return as the prodigal did when He acknowledged His sin and remembered His Home.

some see it like the serpent says " God is making an unnecassary rule to oppress you, you wont really die" but really He is warning us of the coming flood of fire and destruction that will come as a thief, the return of Him who suffered and died to save us returned to end the old in fire and bring the new for eternity.


2 thessolonians 1 "And to you who are troubled rest with us,
when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, 8In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: 9Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power; 10When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.

11Wherefore also we pray always for you, that our
God would count you worthy of this calling, and fulfil all the good pleasure of his goodness, and the work of faith with power: 12That the name of our Lord Jesus Christ may be glorified in you, and ye in him, according to the grace of our God and the Lord Jesus Christ.

these things arent threats, they are warnings meant to believe because they will turn us from sin Knowing this truth doesnt seem pleasant at the time to realize we have to repent, but in the end its eternal life and what we used to Love to do, has become utterly sinful....


 

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I admit it could be my MISunderstanding of what 'trampling' means....
I'm sure God will explain in due course if that is indeed what he says.
 

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]2 Thessalonians 2:1-7, "2:1, "As to the coming of our Master [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהושע [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Messiah and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, brothers,"2:2, "not to become easily unsettled in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as if the day of [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]has come."2:3, "Let no one deceive you in any way, because the falling away is to come first, and the man of lawlessness is to be revealed, the son of destruction, (Dan 11:36-39)"2:4, "who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshipped, so that he sits as the Mighty One in the Dwelling Place of the Mighty One, showing himself that he is the Mighty One."2:5, "Do you not remember that I told you this while I was still with you?"2:6, "And now you know what restrains, for him to be revealed in his time."2:7, "For the secret of lawlessness is already at work – only until he who now restrains comes out of the midst."[/FONT]
 
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2 Thessalonians 2:1-7, "2:1, "As to the coming of our Master יהושע Messiah and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, brothers,"2:2, "not to become easily unsettled in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as if the day of יהוה has come."2:3, "Let no one deceive you in any way, because the falling away is to come first, and the man of lawlessness is to be revealed, the son of destruction, (Dan 11:36-39)"2:4, "who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshipped, so that he sits as the Mighty One in the Dwelling Place of the Mighty One, showing himself that he is the Mighty One."2:5, "Do you not remember that I told you this while I was still with you?"2:6, "And now you know what restrains, for him to be revealed in his time."2:7, "For the secret of lawlessness is already at work – only until he who now restrains comes out of the midst."
revelation 12 : " And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, 8And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. 9And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

10And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. 11And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. 12Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time."


john 12:31 "
Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.

john 14:30 "
Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me."

Luke 10:18 "
And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven."

ephesians 6:Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. 12For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. 13Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. 14Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; 15And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; 16Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.17And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:"


ephesians 2:2 "
Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:"

Jesus arrival on earth and His resurrection ended the war in Heaven and satan and His demons were cast into the earth, even Now he is looking to destroy Jesus disciples , and most will not realize there is even a war happening for our souls.
 

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So I thought, this will be interesting to see the support for the lord's day being Sunday. I read and the request to prove it from scripture has been constantly asked.

And Yet not one speck of evidence has been provided for the view that Sunday is the Lord's day.

The early church fathers who brought in traditions of man over the word of God speak of Sunday as the Lord's day. tradition created the catholic church.

Protestants came into existence to protest many evils in the church. the mantra the Bible alone. And now here today we have millions of So called protestants singing the same song as the Catholic church. Passing Tradition on as truth, and twisting the scripture to fit the tradition. While still unable to do the most fundamental practice of a true protestant, show it form the bible.
 

Hizikyah

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]2 Peter 3:10-13, “But the day of [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]shall come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with intense heat, and the earth and the works that are in it shall be burned up."But, beloved ones, let not this one matter be hidden from you: that with [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]is not slow in regard to the promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward us, not wishing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance. But the day of [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]shall come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with intense heat, and the earth and the works that are in it shall be burned up."Seeing all these are to be destroyed in this way, what kind of people ought you to be in set-apart behavior and reverence, looking for and hastening the coming of the day of [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif], through which the heavens shall be destroyed, being set on fire, and the elements melt with intense heat! But according to His promise we wait for a renewed heavens and a renewed earth (Isa 65:17, Isa 66:22) in which righteousness dwells.”[/FONT]
 

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Zephaniah 2:1-3, "2:1, "Gather together, gather together, O nation without shame,"2:2, "before the law gives birth – the day shall pass on like chaff – before the burning wrath of [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]comes upon you, before the day of wrath of [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]comes upon you!"2:3, "Seek [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif], all you meek ones of the earth, who have done His right-ruling. Seek righteousness, seek meekness, if so be that you are hidden in the day of wrath of [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]."[/FONT]
 

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Jeremiah 46:10, "For this is the day of the Master יהוה [FONT=Times New Roman, serif]of hosts, a day of vengeance, to revenge Himself on His adversaries. And the sword shall devour, and be satisfied and made drunk with their blood. For the Master [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה of hosts has a slaughtering in the land of the north by the River Euphrates.[/FONT]
 

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Isaiah 24:16-23, “From the ends of the earth we shall hear songs, “Splendour to the Righteous One!” But I say, “I waste away, I waste away! Woe to me! The treacherous betray, with treachery the treacherous betray. Fear and the pit and the snare are upon you, O inhabitant of the earth. And it shall be that he who flees from the noise of the fear falls into the pit, and he who comes up from the midst of the pit is caught in the snare. For the windows from on high shall be opened, and the foundations of the earth be shaken. The earth shall be utterly broken, the earth shall be completely shattered, the earth shall be fiercely shaken. The earth shall stagger like a drunkard. And it shall totter like a hut, and its transgression shall be heavy upon it, and it shall fall, and not rise again. And in that day it shall be that יהוה punishes on high the host of exalted ones, and on the earth the sovereigns of the earth. And they shall be gathered together, as prisoners are gathered in the pit, and shall be shut up in the prison, and be punished after many days. And the moon shall blush, and the sun shall be ashamed, for יהוה of hosts shall reign on Mount Tsiyon, and in Yerushalayim, and before His elders, in esteem!”