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slave

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Christianity begins at the cross. It is recognizing the power of the blood of Christ that not only forgives our sins, but cleanses us from them. It is receiving salvation through the loving gift of grace purchased for us, thereby releasing us from the law.

It then means a total surrender of a life into the purposes and plans of Christ for that life - accepting both good and what appears to be bad as from his hand. It is a fellowship of an intimate nature with Christ, with a life lived so as He can be expressed through every word and action, knowing that we are only a vessel for Him to use.

Christianity has nothing to do with the name of a group.
Yet, the "body of Christ" is a name of a group of individual people who believe; even those who follow Jesus. So this reference is not about a label or doctrine, but a term reflective of those believers and followers; and not unwarranted favor to anything else other than being descriptive. Thus, Amen to the point of not living thru doctrine first before living by way of the person of God thru the person of Christ Jesus.
 
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AMEN.....but guard your heart for what 2 Timothy says is "....all Scripture, is useful for..." We may not get the angle as we read it yet, but we must be careful when we say, "unless its obviously an exaggerated statement", leading a person, then, thru human reasoning to conclude that part of Scripture was not meant by God to be taken literally. There are principles thru illustrations of common life, otherwise known as parables which in and of themselves can be reflective of a principle we should live by in our culture and time versus theirs. But it all has relevance somehow to understanding God more, thus ourselves as well. Historically and literally.

We just can't leave any loopholes here for satan to gain ground, in the way of our minds is all. I would agree that anything God directs us in thru Scripture via the Holy Spirit is His way of guiding us in the Word, and properly using study in terms of historical context and grammatical content and context is something we should practice.... but dissecting the word aimed for the best version is something my spirit checks me in feeling it undermines the Word. I really don't think you mean this as to what I am saying, but the statement leaves an open door to that reasoning, to procure that idea in a weaker brethren or unsaved individual.. You know I love ya bro, and I know to whom you are dependent - God bless you for saying what is on your heart, that which God has commissioned you to say... it was edifying! So, AMEN to all the rest...
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when i say that i mean things like

Matthew 5:30

“And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.”


now it is 100% true

it is better to cutt of your hand than go to hell

but if you sinned today

im not sure cutting your hand off should be the FIRST choice you go to

rather a last resort...


maybe im wrong on that

but i always assumed its more to show the importance of repenting rather than a command to cutt off your hand the first time it offends you or you sin with it
 
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What is Christianity? How could someone say that he/she is a Christian?

These questions were already answered to me by pastor when I was beginning my path towards God. But then just a while ago in school, in our World Religions subject, our teacher asked on what do we think is the religion with the largest number of adherents. Then a flow of answers came up - Roman Catholic, Islam, Iglesia ni Cristo, Jehovah's Witnesses, etc. Then our teacher stopped my classmates by saying that the Roman Catholic, Iglesia ni Cristo, Jehovah's Witnesses (and other more) are all same because they're all under Christianity.

John 1:12 was taught to me, explaining that those who believe, follow, have repented, and thus having a personal relationship with Christ are those that are called Christians. And that Christianity is not just "the religion based on the person and teachings of Jesus of Nazareth, or its beliefs and practices".

I am not here to hate but to ask to all of you for your insights and that I may be enlightened. Thank you and God bless!
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Christians are simply disciples of Jesus the teacher and Lord. We believe in Him, and we Believe Him. each of us are at different places in it, but we learn from and follow Jesus because He died for us and was Raised up By God we believe Him, and follow. we grow, learn and walk in the things He taught His disciples in the 4 gospels, and then told them to go teach the world the same things.
 

slave

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haha

when i say that i mean things like

Matthew 5:30

“And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.”


now it is 100% true

it is better to cutt of your hand than go to hell

but if you sinned today

im not sure cutting your hand off should be the FIRST choice you go to

rather a last resort...


maybe im wrong on that

but i always assumed its more to show the importance of repenting rather than a command to cutt off your hand the first time it offends you or you sin with it
Yes, principles thru analogies, but also Spiritual Truths which become realities - even literally so if used by the litmus test of His Word in comparison to the Holy Spirits guise in real-time. Of course, the point isn't to, "hurry up and - go cut off your hand - God says so!" It is a comparison of two things, typically for the purpose of explanation or clarification; Spiritual truth not withstanding, however, even to its literal end(if Jesus were to so call). To understand God's eternal investments vs. temporal gain, and in truth of His judgements how we are best served to follow His decrees; we must be humble and dependent on God in our life and mind. And God has made it our role as to having our volitional will empowered that we must place our minds in Christ.

This is my point Scripturally. We are not to be frivolousness in connection to Him in regards to our mindset in Him, or passive. We must listen with a pliable and humble heart. I get that you are not trying anything but good intentions toward God.

Remember, God is love and everything which is spoken from Him will be love. We must all start faithfully from that premise. You and I have talked about digging into His Word. We have discussed finding a cross reference in Scripture to support the one we are looking at, so His Spirit has means to communicate with our spirit; can you think of one for your (Matt 5:30) reference? As you pursue God in what it means He will share thru your spirit, His mind to you. What comes to mind for me spiritually is the Scripture, "What good will it be for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul? Or what can anyone give in exchange for their soul?" (Matthew 16:24).

We need to sit patiently with God is my point earlier, and listen by way of our spirit exclusively. To let Him speak to us, for we need Him more, so we need to let Him envelop our mind and thoughts via our spirit and never by way of intellect first, (intellect) only after the spirit has established the direction for the heart; which cultivates the brain to work hard in searching God's truths out then, but only properly, then.. You made a comment that said, " I am not sure..." and this is my point, we cannot know the mind of God, only Jesus knows the mind of God so we need to understand God's will thru the Spirit of God which He will then depart upon us in our spirit, God thru Christ will give you His assurance to know His will and not debate the best answer this way.

So, God is not calling people to
aimless doctrines thru armlessness or handlessness. He is calling people to be dependent on His ways versus any other ways. Both in ways of thinking and in ways of living. What then is our priorities in life; in whom do we place our mindset in?

Surely, all the Disciples would have said (if left to their own mindset; outside of Christ), "Ok, Jesus I love you, but surely, You didn't mean to let me be murdered!" Wouldn't they have walked away at that point; not showing God's glory in their special place in Heaven thru martyrdom in His Name? Do we see that no greater love hath a man than to lay down his life for another? Self-awareness would have saved their life, but to die for His name is a privilege to love God wholly well. Again, this is not appointed to all, even most, but only to the elect few if so allowed.

In this self-aware reasoning cloaked in goodness; we must not be passive and frivolous, in walking by way of our spirit. John the Baptist surely was questioning why Jesus was in a tropical land, while choosing to stay there instead of breaking him out of prison in a dry arid land in the middle of nowhere; a man only days ago, praised him for being the greatest man of flesh birth. . .

Lazarus and the people surrounding him surely would fault God if we took it upon ourselves to reason what God asks in relationship to His Spiritual Truths when Jesus heard Lazarus was about to die and Jesus says, "Let's stay a couple more days here." We open our eye's, mouth gapped open, with hands in hair and say, "What?" But we need to trust His way the Best way, and our best way.. For we are now privileged to know how that Lazarus story turned out. He was to be raised from death, so as to show God's glory. But, he was about His Fathers business, not mans urgencies understanding He had to die first to demonstrate that miracle His Father willed.

The point is: "Are we about Our Father's business like Jesus was and is?", and, "Do we accept Him at His Word?" "Do we value the things God values, over all other things; accepting only the things He gives us in our blessings from Him approved?

God is not out to maim man's bodies. But, do we believe it is better to do anything He says in comparison to losing Him as your way, and truth, and life? If once He wills, by making it clear to us thru our spirit, and yet we oppose it, is this not a warning He has mentioned?

Nothing is worth keeping over Christ and God. In way of mind, or life lived out thru our bodies. You say, "I'm not sure cutting off your hand should be....(pausing to include self- awareness) as to concluding it should be our ...last resort," But will that always be His will? You can be honest saying, "I don't desire it ever, but not my will but Thy will be done, help me understand how this works out literally if it were to come to that, and what principles are you asking me to understand here?" concluding whatever he asks you will submit to.
 
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jej00n

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Thank you all for your reply! I really am glad to have found this site. I respect and appreciate all your replies. I am always ready to learn. And I also like it when I get to know what people think towards a certain situation. I may think about a certain verse and learn from it and you may too. But there are also great possibilities that a verse may had have a much deeper impact or understanding on that individual than the other (thus, a testimony comes up).

I do believe that it is good that we also learn from each other that each may also grow and have fellowship together with the believers of Christ. Proverbs 27:17 Iron sharpens iron, and one man sharpens another. Romans 1:12 That is, that you and I may be mutually encouraged by each other's faith.

Again, thank you all for sharing. God bless you all! :eek:
 
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pottersclay

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Regardless of all the faith based names there are only 2 religions in the world.

1 that which is man made and works for acceptances.

2 that which comes from Devine intervention. (Christianity).
 

slave

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Regardless of all the faith based names there are only 2 religions in the world.

1 that which is man made and works for acceptances.

2 that which comes from Devine intervention. (Christianity).
There are thousands of Religions but there is only one way to the Father: Those who are in Christ (with all that entails); and nothing else.
 
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What is Christianity? How could someone say that he/she is a Christian?

These questions were already answered to me by pastor when I was beginning my path towards God. But then just a while ago in school, in our World Religions subject, our teacher asked on what do we think is the religion with the largest number of adherents. Then a flow of answers came up - Roman Catholic, Islam, Iglesia ni Cristo, Jehovah's Witnesses, etc. Then our teacher stopped my classmates by saying that the Roman Catholic, Iglesia ni Cristo, Jehovah's Witnesses (and other more) are all same because they're all under Christianity.

John 1:12 was taught to me, explaining that those who believe, follow, have repented, and thus having a personal relationship with Christ are those that are called Christians. And that Christianity is not just "the religion based on the person and teachings of Jesus of Nazareth, or its beliefs and practices".

I am not here to hate but to ask to all of you for your insights and that I may be enlightened. Thank you and God bless!
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There are a number of issues that are raised in your post that need clarification in order to sensibly answer your question.

Firstly the definition of what church is:
The word "church" is used loosely to describe a lot of things.
Sometimes it refers to a building - the one with stained glass windows and a spire.
It can be used to describe a denomination - Presbyterian versus Roman Catholic.
It can be used to describe a local church located in a neighbourhood.
It can be applied more universally to mean all those who are Christians across the world irrespective of what denomination or local congregation they belong to.
Within Christianity there are only two definitions of Church that count - a local congregation of believers (the meeting place is irrelevant); and the universal body of believers across the world.

Secondly the definition of "Christian":
From outside of Christianity, and sometimes from within, Christians are often defined as those who are members of some local church or at least attend church. This definition, although great for those who want to view church and Christianity mere from an administrative perspective, is fraught with difficulty. Countless millions of people are registered as members of some local church who either never attend or only very infrequently, and also adhere to a belief system which is at odds with Biblical Christian belief. Furthermore, there a lot of people, who for various reasons, despite being Christian in belief do not attend church or are not members of any church.
One's beliefs are also important.
Many groups portray themselves as "Christian" - the Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses are just two prominent examples of thousands of groups - yet their beliefs and doctrines are fundamentally opposed to Biblical Christianity. Many, but not all, these groups also appeal to extra-Biblical authority in the form of books or so-called spoken prophecy.
There are variations in belief and doctrine from within Christianity but certain core doctrine is agreed upon.

In addition knowledge of the doctrine that makes Christianity Christian does not make one a Christian - personally accepting Jesus Christ as one's Lord and Saviour, accepting the work that Jesus Christ did on the cross, and repenting of actual sin in one's life is the fundamental first step in being a Christian.
In depth knowledge of all the doctrine of Christianity is not a prior requirement - certainty of the essential claims that Jesus Christ made about Himself, and the offer of salvation that He extends to us is!
As others have already made mention a Christian is one who has a personal relationship with God, is committed to God and put the priorities of God above their own priorities in life.

Christianity, in fact, is built precisely on the person and work of Jesus Christ. I do not refer to Christianity as a religion either because religiosity is all about ceremony and rules and regulations. Christianity cannot be properly defined apart from being a personal relationship with Jesus Christ.

By the definitions put forward above groups like the Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses (and lots of others) are not Christian.
Although I believe that there are believers (Christians) within the Roman Catholic Church (RCC) there are several doctrinal beliefs and practices that militate heavily against the average Catholic church-goer coming to a personal relationship with God.
The RCC elevates the Pope and the rest of the clergy to a level of authority that simply cannot be justified Biblically. The doctrine of Papal infallibility essentially makes any proclamation the Pope makes by virtue of His office as binding to the church irrespective of the Biblical position on that particular topic. Ouch!
Furthermore, the RCC places itself firmly as an intermediary between man and God. This is why RCC clergy are called priests. Priests are intermediaries between God and man. However, one of the many consequences of what Jesus Christ accomplished on the cross for us was to remove the need for a priestly intermediate. The concept of a personal relationship with God is a foreign concept if one has to approach God through a third party all the time. In practice Catholics have a relationship with their priest, not God!
I won't go into this in any detail (consult the history books for more details) on this but the enormous manipulation and abuse of power that these two practices within the RCC has resulted in the most appalling consequences over the centuries.
 
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pottersclay

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There are thousands of Religions but there is only one way to the Father: Those who are in Christ (with all that entails); and nothing else.
Exactly glad you agree.
 

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What is Christianity? How could someone say that he/she is a Christian?

These questions were already answered to me by pastor when I was beginning my path towards God. But then just a while ago in school, in our World Religions subject, our teacher asked on what do we think is the religion with the largest number of adherents. Then a flow of answers came up - Roman Catholic, Islam, Iglesia ni Cristo, Jehovah's Witnesses, etc. Then our teacher stopped my classmates by saying that the Roman Catholic, Iglesia ni Cristo, Jehovah's Witnesses (and other more) are all same because they're all under Christianity.

John 1:12 was taught to me, explaining that those who believe, follow, have repented, and thus having a personal relationship with Christ are those that are called Christians. And that Christianity is not just "the religion based on the person and teachings of Jesus of Nazareth, or its beliefs and practices".

I am not here to hate but to ask to all of you for your insights and that I may be enlightened. Thank you and God bless!
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There are many man-made definitions that do not match God's definitions. There are not many faiths out there- the is one Faith, one Lord, one baptism. All others are false, only one is from God. So we must make sure what we practice matches what the Bible says. Christ purchased His church with His blood, and it remains the only genuine one.

There is only one form of Christianity- to follow Jesus Christ and His teachings- which is the New Testament- for He commanded His apostles to write down everything that He told them to write (the teaching comes from Him, not from the apostles).