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I think it might be these dry places that is described here because they do not spend eternity there but are released in Revelations:
Luke 11
24 “When an unclean spirit goes out of a man, he goes through dry places, seeking rest; and finding none, he says, ‘I will return to my house from which I came.’ 25 And when he comes, he finds it swept and put in order. 26 Then he goes and takes with him seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter and dwell there; and the last state of that man is worse than the first.”
matthew 12
43 “When an unclean spirit goes out of a man, he goes through dry places, seeking rest, and finds none. 44 Then he says, ‘I will return to my house from which I came.’ And when he comes, he finds it empty, swept, and put in order. 45 Then he goes and takes with him seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter and dwell there; and the last state of that man is worse than the first. So shall it also be with this wicked generation.”
Luke 11
24 “When an unclean spirit goes out of a man, he goes through dry places, seeking rest; and finding none, he says, ‘I will return to my house from which I came.’ 25 And when he comes, he finds it swept and put in order. 26 Then he goes and takes with him seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter and dwell there; and the last state of that man is worse than the first.”
matthew 12
43 “When an unclean spirit goes out of a man, he goes through dry places, seeking rest, and finds none. 44 Then he says, ‘I will return to my house from which I came.’ And when he comes, he finds it empty, swept, and put in order. 45 Then he goes and takes with him seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter and dwell there; and the last state of that man is worse than the first. So shall it also be with this wicked generation.”
P
The abyss is where Satan and his angels walk, for he is the prince and power of the air, did he not walk up and down in the earth, went to and fro from it and stood in the presence of Gods throne room? Does he not accuse the brothers day and night before God? The abyss is the region of the darkness of outerspace.
Rev. 12:12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
So where do you think he will come down from? And his minions will follow!
Rev. 12:12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
So where do you think he will come down from? And his minions will follow!
P
I once went to a place that was kinda like Hell (mentally and spiritually) but it was not Hell. I had a nightmare about it first and later experienced it.
I have called it "The Darkness" and I have called it "The Void."
I have been trying to find out what it really is (according to the Bible) for a little while now.
This place was emptiness, a place void of light and of life. Here there is no time or distance, sound or motion. At first I thought I was actually in outer space because I was no longer pulled by gravity and there was no border or boundary.
I could discern others there, they were wandering through the darkness, invisible as though this void was an endless pit of lost souls.
You cannot see each other or communicate. I could only feel their desperation and panic to escape the darkness even after being there so long. Each individual also feels alone in their own separate void, generally unaware of one another and consumed by their own fear, desperation and confusion.
The worst part is that you are separated from God, or that's how it feels. Its the most awful feeling I have ever experienced. One minute in this void without God is like hours or days or years of Death. I never knew there could be a place "void of God." But there I was, I reached out for someone, for anyone, but there was no one there. I realized that I had denied God the same way and I was returned to my body.
The word "Abyss" describes it perfectly, even though it may be something else. This was a place even a Demon would be afraid of and a place I would not wish upon anyone. Just nothing and no one forever; without body or voice in a darkness where you are completely separated from the entire universe.
I have called it "The Darkness" and I have called it "The Void."
I have been trying to find out what it really is (according to the Bible) for a little while now.
This place was emptiness, a place void of light and of life. Here there is no time or distance, sound or motion. At first I thought I was actually in outer space because I was no longer pulled by gravity and there was no border or boundary.
I could discern others there, they were wandering through the darkness, invisible as though this void was an endless pit of lost souls.
You cannot see each other or communicate. I could only feel their desperation and panic to escape the darkness even after being there so long. Each individual also feels alone in their own separate void, generally unaware of one another and consumed by their own fear, desperation and confusion.
The worst part is that you are separated from God, or that's how it feels. Its the most awful feeling I have ever experienced. One minute in this void without God is like hours or days or years of Death. I never knew there could be a place "void of God." But there I was, I reached out for someone, for anyone, but there was no one there. I realized that I had denied God the same way and I was returned to my body.
The word "Abyss" describes it perfectly, even though it may be something else. This was a place even a Demon would be afraid of and a place I would not wish upon anyone. Just nothing and no one forever; without body or voice in a darkness where you are completely separated from the entire universe.
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I believe the abyss, a.k.a hell, is inside the earth.
Matthew 12:40
40For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
One can argue that the earth can't have a bottomless pit.. but hey, maybe it was an exaggeration. I don't know.
Numbers 16:32-33
32And the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed them up, and their houses, and all the men that appertained unto Korah, and all their goods.
33They, and all that appertained to them, went down alive into the pit, and the earth closed upon them: and they perished from among the congregation.
Blessings
Matthew 12:40
40For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
One can argue that the earth can't have a bottomless pit.. but hey, maybe it was an exaggeration. I don't know.
Numbers 16:32-33
32And the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed them up, and their houses, and all the men that appertained unto Korah, and all their goods.
33They, and all that appertained to them, went down alive into the pit, and the earth closed upon them: and they perished from among the congregation.
Blessings
P
Here are some verses from the Bible I just found about "The Darkness" or anything that sounds "Abyss" like (other than verses listed prior):
Originally covered the earth Ge 1:2
"Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved THE BLACKNESS OF DARKNESS FOREVER." (Jude 1:13)
"Take heed therefore that the light which is in thee be not darkness." (Luke 11:35)
II THESSALONIANS 2:6 And you now know the thing [the Abyss] that is holding back [Abaddon], that he may be revealed at the proper time. 7 For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only the thing [the Abyss] which now restrains [Abaddon] will continue to do so until out of the midst [of the Abyss] he comes.
"Therefore HELL HATH ENLARGED HERSELF, and opened her mouth without measure: and their glory, and their multitude, and their pomp, and he that rejoiceth, SHALL DESCEND INTO IT." (Isaiah 5:14)
"And the smoke of THEIR TORMENT ascendeth up FOR EVER AND EVER: and they have NO REST DAY NOR NIGHT..." (Revelation 14:11)
1 Kings Chapter 8 12 "Then spake Solomon, The LORD said that he would dwell in the thick darkness."
"For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;"
2 Peter Chapter 2 4
REVELATION 11:3 "And I will grant authority to my two witnesses, and they will prophesy for twelve hundred and sixty days, clothed in sackcloth. . . . 7 When they have finished their testimony, the beast that comes up out of the Abyss will make war with them, and overcome them and kill them." (NASU)
Originally covered the earth Ge 1:2
"Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved THE BLACKNESS OF DARKNESS FOREVER." (Jude 1:13)
"Take heed therefore that the light which is in thee be not darkness." (Luke 11:35)
II THESSALONIANS 2:6 And you now know the thing [the Abyss] that is holding back [Abaddon], that he may be revealed at the proper time. 7 For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only the thing [the Abyss] which now restrains [Abaddon] will continue to do so until out of the midst [of the Abyss] he comes.
"Therefore HELL HATH ENLARGED HERSELF, and opened her mouth without measure: and their glory, and their multitude, and their pomp, and he that rejoiceth, SHALL DESCEND INTO IT." (Isaiah 5:14)
"And the smoke of THEIR TORMENT ascendeth up FOR EVER AND EVER: and they have NO REST DAY NOR NIGHT..." (Revelation 14:11)
1 Kings Chapter 8 12 "Then spake Solomon, The LORD said that he would dwell in the thick darkness."
"For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;"
2 Peter Chapter 2 4
REVELATION 11:3 "And I will grant authority to my two witnesses, and they will prophesy for twelve hundred and sixty days, clothed in sackcloth. . . . 7 When they have finished their testimony, the beast that comes up out of the Abyss will make war with them, and overcome them and kill them." (NASU)
Hi PostWar,
I know what you are referring to.
I too have experienced this, a long time ago.
It is devastating. But for me, it was also very enlightening, after
the ordeal was over with.
I have come to understand that this Abyss, bottomless pit, darkness, etc.
Is not out there somewhere, But within each of us.
I don't regret having experienced this, all though I did at the time,
But for the fact that it opened my eyes to so much, I pray that God
will reveal this to you too, In Light. With me it had to do with Law, and
legalistic views, for myself and on others.
Thanks be to Christ though, after a solid week of this, He delivered me,
in every way a Saviour could deliver. Not a day goes by that I am not
Grateful. It's hard to explain things like this on a forum, but I know and am
absolutely convinced, that The Abyss is WithIN.
Blessings
P
I think the subject of the Abyss is separate from "the Void" but Im glad we were all involved in the issue together here.
We each definitely have the ability to create an Abyss like state within our own minds, no doubt about that.
At first I wasn't sure if I was in my own mind, going into shock or not. One thing that made me believe I was not in my own mind was that, upon entering the void I remembered my soul from before birth. I recognized the place I was in as a being a place somewhat like where I was before I was born. Or,,, I realized that I was in a state much like the state I was in before birth. I had been studying Astral Physics prior to this (at the time it was to prove precognitive dreams and the theory of destiny through physics and I did) and it involves a lot of "Space and Time talk." That was before being born again, again. I recognized this as being very much like Space.
The Human mind is capable of so many things, especially during severe trauma. Survival mode kicks in and our minds will do whatever it takes to survive. I have been knocked out a few times in my life. You experience a darkness at that point but it seems more like everything stops and you really have to put your mind back together afterwards. During this experience, all I was and had was my own consciousness an the feeling that I had been separated from God. For many people being alone with your own conscious mind is very much like Hell. Even in the darkest depths of our own minds, I'm not sure that a place like this could be created, especially not as a coping mechanism. Usually coping mechanisms for survival involve our brains grasping at whatever memories we can draw as fast as possible (seeing your whole life pass before your eyes), generally your mind puts you in a slightly better place mentally than the situation you're in physically.
But regardless of all that, I went from bad, to worse but it was such a good thing. I am so grateful for this experience whether I ascended, descended or found it within my own mind. That was Hell for a moment, they didn't even have to turn up the furnace to scare me.
We each definitely have the ability to create an Abyss like state within our own minds, no doubt about that.
At first I wasn't sure if I was in my own mind, going into shock or not. One thing that made me believe I was not in my own mind was that, upon entering the void I remembered my soul from before birth. I recognized the place I was in as a being a place somewhat like where I was before I was born. Or,,, I realized that I was in a state much like the state I was in before birth. I had been studying Astral Physics prior to this (at the time it was to prove precognitive dreams and the theory of destiny through physics and I did) and it involves a lot of "Space and Time talk." That was before being born again, again. I recognized this as being very much like Space.
The Human mind is capable of so many things, especially during severe trauma. Survival mode kicks in and our minds will do whatever it takes to survive. I have been knocked out a few times in my life. You experience a darkness at that point but it seems more like everything stops and you really have to put your mind back together afterwards. During this experience, all I was and had was my own consciousness an the feeling that I had been separated from God. For many people being alone with your own conscious mind is very much like Hell. Even in the darkest depths of our own minds, I'm not sure that a place like this could be created, especially not as a coping mechanism. Usually coping mechanisms for survival involve our brains grasping at whatever memories we can draw as fast as possible (seeing your whole life pass before your eyes), generally your mind puts you in a slightly better place mentally than the situation you're in physically.
But regardless of all that, I went from bad, to worse but it was such a good thing. I am so grateful for this experience whether I ascended, descended or found it within my own mind. That was Hell for a moment, they didn't even have to turn up the furnace to scare me.
