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zone

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note when we don't listen to the Holy Spirit's promotings He send messages via other means: people, verses in the Bible, events in your life, nightmares etc.
does He send prophets today ananda? it's either yes or no.
 
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does He send prophets today ananda? it's either yes or no.
He sends prophecy to people and individual churches. The focus should be on the message and if it aligns with reality and the Bible.

Was king Saul a prophet? was King David a prophet?
 

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He sends prophecy to people and individual churches. The focus should be on the message and if it aligns with reality and the Bible.

Was king Saul a prophet? was King David a prophet?
does He send prophets today ananda? it's either yes or no.
please document where God sends "prophecy" to people and individual churches.
how does He do that?
could you give some examples?
dose He speak directly according to His Old Testament formula : "Thus saith The LORD"?

is the "prophecy" extra-biblical revelation? is the "prophecy" delivered by a prophet? or one with the "gift of prophecy"?
 
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the prophecy is given to anyone who God will it.

do you know the difference between witchcraft and prayers?

Prayers actually seek after GOD's will and ask for God to lead the person.

Witches and sorcerers seek after a formula, a prayer a ritual, a list of good deeds to trade in or cash in to bargain with "God" for things like miracles, money, a bigger congregation, etc.

God uses prophecy to reveal those who are true in heart to HIM or who is just faking and blasphemy against Him even though they have the words and the performance down pat.

I'll give you examples later. have to spend time with family.

look beyond the obvious Zone into people's intentions, you get offended too easily.
 
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Thank you Zone :)
for opening up
I'd be happy to keep you in my prayers to our Lord Jesus Christ with your permission.

the analogy is about heresy (leaven)

you get rid of it, or the whole body becomes sick.

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thank you, i'm fine:)
i have cancer and neurological disease, as well as kidney failure.
i have learned to be content in all circumstances.
prayers are appreciated (by those who are praying to the right Lord).
 

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the prophecy is given to anyone who God will it.

do you know the difference between witchcraft and prayers?

Prayers actually seek after GOD's will and ask for God to lead the person.

Witches and sorcerers seek after a formula, a prayer a ritual, a list of good deeds to trade in or cash in to bargain with "God" for things like miracles, money, a bigger congregation, etc.

God uses prophecy to reveal those who are true in heart to HIM or who is just faking and blasphemy against Him even though they have the words and the performance down pat.

I'll give you examples later. have to spend time with family.

look beyond the obvious Zone into people's intentions, you get offended too easily.
no dear.
it is offensive when people pretend they are prophets then back away from it later when they are proven to be FAKE.

God uses prophecy to reveal those who are true in heart to HIM or who is just faking and blasphemy against Him even though they have the words and the performance down pat.

"prophecy" is a little vague now, interestingly.

i asked if God sends prophets and prophetesses today to "reveal those who are true in heart to HIM or who is just faking and blasphemy against Him even though they have the words and the performance down pat."

if you find time, could you exegete "prophecy" as you see God using it today to reveal anything about others to the 'prophet" (which the "prophet" then presumably speaks to the dull workers?...(i can say this with confidence, since that is what they ALL claim....i often wonder who calls the "prophet" on his or her sin:rolleyes: maybe they've been purified in their trip to the third heaven)

thanks.
zone.
 

zone

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Thank you Zone :)
for opening up
I'd be happy to keep you in my prayers to our Lord Jesus Christ with your permission.
sure Welder!
thank you.

the charismatic crowd would say they are demons of kidney disease, a demon of neurological disease and the cancer demon:rolleyes:

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if the Project Paperclip Doktors of death with their mercury amalgam filling agenda are demons i guess it could be true.

the neurological damage was caused by heavy metal poisoning (28 grams of mercury in my skull for 40 years...had them removed and feel much better...discontinued the perpetual offgassing of mercury vapour so that's good)


just look at the yummy vapour coming off that filled tooth, baby!....

Just 3 grams of mercury can contaminate a 60 acre lake. A typical mercury thermometer alone contains ½ to 2 grams

funny how when you have these removed a HazMat team has to come in...:rolleyes:

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the kidney disease is a NEPHROTIC SYNDROME disease that in my case is coupled with a genetic problem - eventually some of us wind up on dialysis (i'm not there yet).

the other is just what it is.

love zone.
p.s.: i'm really more concerned with the LEAVEN OF THE PHARISEES: maybe you could pray about that too:)
 
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eternally-gratefull

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sure Welder!
thank you.

the charismatic crowd would say they are demons of kidney disease, a demon of neurological disease and the cancer demon:rolleyes:
They really do not think that disease is of demons do they?? :confused:
 
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They really do not think that disease is of demons do they?? :confused:
I don't think disease are demons but I do think using drugs opens one up to demons and the occult and disease is the side effect.

Just because your sick does not mean YOU sinned, Jesus died on the cross and suffered for our sins. the person may be suffering for the sins of a close loved one.

However Jesus can save and heal anyone through His grace.

Zone you have shown you are not ready for the truth. I will keep you in my prayers and ask you learn some SELF CONTROL when you decide people are "heretics" perhaps you should pray about it first?

Not all knowledge is good for people, we don't want the whole world knowing how to build nuclear warheads...
 

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They really do not think that disease is of demons do they?? :confused:
oh ya. they do.
check it out.

example:

FIVE-FOLD MINISTRY.COM
TRAINING AND EQUIPPING: SPIRITUAL WARFARE.

Principality and Power Demons

Principalities are small insignificant irritating little demons. They are the kind of demons that put thoughts of temptation in the minds of man and cause irritations. They do not have much power and there are millions of them. They are the peasants of Satan’s kingdom if you please. They are the Privates in his army and the ones that do all his grunt work. In the Spirit I normally see them pictured as little monkeys.

Power demons are somewhat stronger. These are demons that latch themselves on and attack, causing sickness and disease and such things as drug addiction, bad habits, and bondage in the lives of people. I usually see those in the Spirit as baboons or chimpanzees, slightly larger and more powerful.​


Deliverance Ministry

Many have become majored on deliverance ministry, casting out demons of lies and lust and every other form of sin. They will sometimes spend hours, days and weeks casting out demons one after the other. They identify each little demon, casting them out one at a time. After each session the person is exhausted, tired and sore, and the person who has been casting out the demons is exhausted. They are probably hoarse from shouting at the demons and all they succeeded in doing was getting rid of a few principality and power demons. The ruler demon is still sitting pretty.​

I am not going to go into a lot of detail on deliverance here, because that is another subject that we will teach elsewhere. I just want to point out that you have to deal with the ruler demon before you can get rid of the principality and power demons. You need to go to the top. You need to deal with the 'guy in charge' and then you can deal with the other demon powers.​


Personal Confrontation With The Council

The first time I ever had confrontation with the three members of what I like to call the Council of Wickedness was at a time when I had been going through intense intercession in the Spirit. I had been waiting on God on a daily basis to pray and to intercede in the Spirit. I would spend hours on end praying in tongues, doing warfare in the Spirit, coming into confrontation in the Spirit with the powers of darkness.​

I remember the day that I had been praying earnestly, praying in the Spirit and fighting and doing warfare, when I suddenly saw myself appearing in a room that seemed to be an official council room of some kind. It was like a round table where people were sitting in council, in discussion, like a room where plans were made and issued. As I rose up and stood in that room in my vision I saw three people sitting at the table.​

I said, "Lord, what am I seeing now?"​

Then my flesh went cold, because I realized that I had come into the very council room, the very throne room of the Prince of Darkness, and I was standing in the midst of his council. I had appeared in the middle of their discussions. They looked at me in anger. They were mad. How dare I come up and appear in their council, their secret council that nobody else was supposed to know about? But the Spirit of God took me into their council, and He showed me that there are three demons, three princes of darkness in the Council of Wickedness.​

The leader of the Council is of course Lucifer. The second one reminded me of a character I once saw on TV in a horror movie. He was big, strong, bald and ugly.​

I looked at him and said, "Lord, who is this?"​

The Lord said, "It’s Pharaoh."​

"Pharaoh? But Pharaoh was the king of Egypt."​

The Lord said, "Yes, but there is a spiritual Pharaoh."​

He is the one who poses as the god of this world, because Egypt in the Scriptures is a picture of the world. Pharaoh is usually typified as Satan, the leader and the god of this world, but the Lord showed me in the Spirit, that Satan has set up one who poses as the god of this world and is in charge of the World System. He has put him in charge of the economies and monetary systems of the world. All administrative and political functions of the world are controlled by this prince of darkness, who is a spiritual Pharaoh.​

http://www.fivefold-ministry.com/spiritual_warfare.php?format=

etc etc....:rolleyes:

trips to heaven, chats with god in person...
sells books i guess.
 
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Zone you have shown you are not ready for the truth...

awwww.....ok....if you say so.
maybe i could be a prophet.


Signs of Prophetic Calling

Les D. Crause
Question:
What are the signs that the Lord has called me to be a prophet?
Answer:

Most of the information needed to answer this has been covered in the articles on the prophetic ministry. This is an advance coverage until everything is complete.
I assume that since you are asking this question you have some interest in and possibly experience with the prophetic ministry. The fact that you are asking for pointers, and that you are not absolutely sure if you are going in the right direction or not, is a good sign. Nevertheless the desire must be there for you to have pondered this question, so the chances are the Lord has already begun to speak to you about this ministry. If this is true, then one of the first signs is already there - you are not sure if this is the way the Lord is leading you.​

The call of God is gentle and unassuming. The Holy Spirit is pictured as a dove, which is a gentle bird that is easily frightened away. When the Lord moves upon you by His Spirit He always does it in the same way. Because of this we often wonder if we are imagining it or if it is really the Lord speaking. The only question you need to ask yourself to make sure if it is the Lord, is whether what you are hearing is for the Glory of God and the extension of His Kingdom.​

If your desire to move into the prophetic ministry is one of glamour, recognition and self-exaltation, then you are off the mark. Not only that, you are sincerely deceived, because the call to the prophetic ministry is a call to death, not glory. The preparation and qualifications for becoming a prophet are unlike any other ministry, except for the apostle. You have to be a failure before you can be of use. You have to have learned that you cannot trust in yourself.​

With all of these things in mind, then, let me try to give you a few possible signs of the prophetic call on your life. These do not necessarily mean you are called to be a prophet, and they might not all be there if you are called. But if you are called to be a prophet, then you are likely to see a fair portion of them in your life and experience. Some of these signs apply to any major calling to the ministry. Some are specific to the prophetic ministry.
Prophetic Ministry: Sign No 1

A desire has been burning in you for a long time to minister to the Body of Christ. This is not a passing fancy but something that has burned in you for a while. It is not so much a desire to bring unbelievers to know the Lord, but more a desire to help believers in their daily walk. It might be a desire to warn people of certain dangers. It might be a desire to encourage and lift believers up. Whichever direction it takes, this thing has taken hold of you and will not let go.​

The call of God comes from God and not you. All you can produce in yourself is sin. Paul says in Romans 7:18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwells no good thing: for I really want to [do good] ; but [how] to practice that which is good I find impossible.​

The desire to do the work of God is planted by God and grows over a period of time. If you desire to do something for God's glory then it must have come from Him. If it does not fade over time then it is not an emotional fantasy but something real.
Prophetic Ministry: Sign No 2

Not many people are likely to share your enthusiasm for what you want to do. They may warn you to be careful, to calm down. They might even accuse you of being paranoid. They might tell you not to 'rock the boat.' You may have begun to wonder if this thing is of the Lord.​

Your ministry is unique, so do not expect others to share your burden. The fact that you want to do something different could be proof that this desire is from the Lord. The Lord tends to hide His prophets away until they are ready. So do not expect others to quickly recognize your call, unless you have ministered to them personally. If you have been rejected, ostracized or accused of going against the general flow, then there is a good chance that the early signs of the prophetic ministry have started to show.
Prophetic Ministry: Sign No 3

Your desire is other-oriented. You are not so much concerned with making a name for yourself as you are with helping other people. You will gladly give up things that are important to you so that other people may benefit from your actions. The prophetic ministry, like the apostolic ministry requires a total commitment to the work of the Lord.​

Ministry is servant hood and is likely to cost you a lot. If your desire is not to help others then it is not a calling to ministry. Jesus said in Matthew 20:27-28 27 And whoever will be chief among you, let him be your servant: 28 Even as the Son of man did not come to be ministered to, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many​

You must be prepared to pay the price before you can enter it. If your desire is not for the good of others, you have not yet even entered the door.
Prophetic Ministry:Sign No 4

Over a period of time you have found yourself ministering to a particular area of need more than others. It seems that you always end up ministering to believers who need encouragement and direction in their lives. And when you do something happens inside you and you sense a surge taking place. You may find yourself telling people which way they should go and what God's purpose is for them.​

The Lord prepares you for ministry by creating opportunities for you. Often you will not be aware of this. You only know that you feel content ministering to believers and helping them, to set their lives and ministries in order. These are all signposts showing you the way.
Prophetic Ministry: Sign No 5

People have told you that you have helped them, even when at times you have not been aware of it. Sometimes others can see your ministry more clearly than you can see it yourself. Solomon said in Proverbs 18:16 A man's gift makes room for him, and brings him before great men

If you have a prophetic calling you will not be able to hide it indefinitely. It will start to show itself in time and others will begin to notice it.
Prophetic Ministry: Sign No 6

You feel unqualified to do the work of the Lord and usually feel unworthy to push yourself forward to suggest that you be given an opportunity. When appeals are made for help you wait for everyone else to step forward first before you offer your services.​

Humility is a sure sign of your genuineness. The Spirit of God always leads gently. He is likened to a dove, that is meek and easily frightened away. Jesus is called the Lamb of God. A lamb is also a gentle creature that does not push its way. Since the call comes gently, you may even wonder at times if you heard right.
Prophetic Ministry: Sign No 7

The key ministry of a prophet is intercessory prayer. If you find yourself being led to spend a lot of time interceding for others and you have had times when you have been very clearly led and have seen definite results, the elements of a prophetic ministry are certainly there. The prophet is the key to what God does in the earth. God said in the Old Testament that He does nothing unless He first reveals His secret to the prophets.​

If you have been led to pray things into existence or birth them in the Spirit through intercessory prayer, then your prophetic ministry is already starting to manifest.
Prophetic Ministry: Sign No 8

The prophet is sensitive to the moving of God's Spirit and has the ability to bring the anointing into a meeting. This is often seen in musical capability or a particular ability to lead effectively in praise and worship. If you have been effectively involved in leading the congregation in praise and worship and can cause the anointing of the Spirit to come upon a group when you lead, this can certainly be very clear evidence of a prophetic ministry in operation.
Prophetic Ministry: Sign No 9

If you are called to be a prophet, then your preparation will span many years and will be one of the most difficult and troublesome processes. The prophet will be battered and broken and brought to nothing in himself before he can be of any use to the Kingdom of God. He will have to learn not to trust in himself or in his own abilities. His knowledge and natural strengths will be tried in the fire and brought to naught before God can use him.​

If your life has been one of intense problems, failures, oppositions, persecutions and pressure, then this could be a sign of preparation for the prophetic ministry. I have yet to meet a prophet who has had life of smooth sailing, easy success and personal recognition. As I said earlier, the prophetic call is a call to death. Like the apostle, the prophet must have the sentence of death in himself. He must sacrifice all for the sake of the ministry. He must die completely to self.

Well these are the main signposts I can offer to help you clarify whether the Lord has called you to be a prophet or not. Of course the best confirmation will always come through another prophet. God often calls a prophet to the ministry using a senior prophet, and even his training might come under the direction of one who has been in the prophetic office for a while.

http://www.fivefold-ministry.com/identify_prophetic_calling.php?format=
 
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The Book of Acts is the story of the first church affairs. These cases, including those living prophecy did men, being filled with the Spirit of God. Did God change? Today the history of the church continues. The Spirit of God today also create the same things through the people were ready to follow Him. The Spirit of God Himself makes the action what He wants. If a man walks by the Spirit that he did not have evidence of Scripture as he has more evidence. Certificate, and signs are needed for those who do not know Him. Stupid people! Flourishes today predominance of the letter over the spirit. Was it possible to drive within the scope of the Living Spirit in the Book of Acts? Are these all acts which did Christ described in Scripture? Or deeds and words that did and said members of the first church? Or all of the case were to get into the Scripture to determine which is of God and what is not? Nonsense! It is simply the doctrine of human!