what is the history of "slain in spirit"???
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On the contrary, the modern expression "slain in the Spirit" means the same as the modern expression "failing under the power." Paul teaches that the convicting and manifestation of the Holy through the prophetic word induces the recipient to "fall on his face"--and that is what modern charimatics mean by "slain in the Spirit."
24 But if all prophesy, and there come in one that believeth not, or one unlearned, he is convinced of all, he is judged of all:
25 And thus are the secrets of his heart made manifest; and so falling down on his face he will worship God, and report that God is in you of a truth.
This is not slain in the spirit. This is like when the preacher preach, one convince and worship the Lord.
Falling Down here is figurative of repent.
Slain in the spirit is not falling Down in his face, most people that slain in the spirit falling Down in his back and facing up, not facing Down.
25 And thus are the secrets of his heart made manifest; and so falling down on his face he will worship God, and report that God is in you of a truth.
This is not slain in the spirit. This is like when the preacher preach, one convince and worship the Lord.
Falling Down here is figurative of repent.
Slain in the spirit is not falling Down in his face, most people that slain in the spirit falling Down in his back and facing up, not facing Down.
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The key is falling which way? To fall back or backward indicates a person is under the letter of the law that kills. To be under the Spirit of the law as the law that gives life is to fall forward in worship. (face wise) . Not back wise. No armor for the back. They assign the hands or will of men to catch and do not walk by faith. The unseen will.
Backward or forward ? One step back two steps forward. One step back two steps forward.
Jeremiah 7:24 But they hearkened not, nor inclined their ear, but walked in the counsels and in the imagination of their evil heart, and went backward, and not forward.
Leviticus 9:24 And there came a fire out from before the Lord, and consumed upon the altar the burnt offering and the fat: which when all the people saw, they shouted, and fell on their faces.
Backward or forward ? One step back two steps forward. One step back two steps forward.
Jeremiah 7:24 But they hearkened not, nor inclined their ear, but walked in the counsels and in the imagination of their evil heart, and went backward, and not forward.
Leviticus 9:24 And there came a fire out from before the Lord, and consumed upon the altar the burnt offering and the fat: which when all the people saw, they shouted, and fell on their faces.
You are repeatedly ducking the relevant facts that have been pointed out to you.
(1) The point is that seekers feel so overwhelmed with awe by the bestowal of the Spirit's power that they fall, both forward and backwards. Sometimes they fall forward to break their fall ahd the roll over on their faces. Hence the defamatory term "holy rollers."
(2) John Wesley, the father of Methodism, made it clear that falling under the power can be a natural emotional reaction to the powerful physical stimulus of being overpowered by the Spirit.. it also applies to the experience of Presbyterians, Methodists, Congregationalists, and Baptists in the Great Awakenings in the 18th and 19th centuries.
(1) The point is that seekers feel so overwhelmed with awe by the bestowal of the Spirit's power that they fall, both forward and backwards. Sometimes they fall forward to break their fall ahd the roll over on their faces. Hence the defamatory term "holy rollers."
(2) John Wesley, the father of Methodism, made it clear that falling under the power can be a natural emotional reaction to the powerful physical stimulus of being overpowered by the Spirit.. it also applies to the experience of Presbyterians, Methodists, Congregationalists, and Baptists in the Great Awakenings in the 18th and 19th centuries.
'Slain in the spirit' is terribly named, IMO. In the Old Testament during supernatural ezperiences, some prophets fell proatrate. Daniel was physically weak after an ecounter with an angel. The soldiers in the garden fell also, and so did the ones at the tomb.
In hisrory I have read of this happenning during the Second Great Awakening to large numbers of people. I also recall in George Fox's journal where he lay his hand on a judge's shoulder (memory is fuzzy but I think he he exhorted him to fear the Lord) and the man fell. ( I did not say 'jydge fell' because that would have been too ironic since Fox married a certain Judge Fell's widow.
In hisrory I have read of this happenning during the Second Great Awakening to large numbers of people. I also recall in George Fox's journal where he lay his hand on a judge's shoulder (memory is fuzzy but I think he he exhorted him to fear the Lord) and the man fell. ( I did not say 'jydge fell' because that would have been too ironic since Fox married a certain Judge Fell's widow.
1. I Said majority are backward. You ignore the fact that people that protect the fall is stand behind. So you the one that ignore the fact not me.
2. We are looking for biblical fact, when apostle pray for people, are they fall? You talk about John wesley, but I am talk about biblical fact.
2. We are looking for biblical fact, when apostle pray for people, are they fall? You talk about John wesley, but I am talk about biblical fact.
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I repeat: the experience of "falling under the power" in response to the laying on of hands is just one of the many ways believers are "slain in the Spirit." The crucial point is that people are so overwhelmed by the love and power of the Holy Spirit that they begin to lose control of their muscles and fall forward or backwards in a state of godly bliss and praise. To learn how this experience can lead to; a move of God far more spectacular and miraculous than any you have ever witnessed, watch my video on the Hebrides Revival of 1948-52. Presbyterians, not Pentecostals or Charismatics, spear-headed that revival.
http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/ The earliest were taught by the Apostles. As such they document how the Bible was interpreted, understood by the early church. If something is not found in the Bible, nor in these primary historical sources it did not happen. Unless you can find it in primary secular resources from the time frame.
I see that many claims are made about what early church fathers taught online, that are not documented, just useless opinions that are accepted by non critical thinking people.
I see that many claims are made about what early church fathers taught online, that are not documented, just useless opinions that are accepted by non critical thinking people.