What is the key to heaven

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
Feb 5, 2015
87
5
8
#1
Why did we composed a song, "Prayer is the key to heaven", is it, is prayer the key?
So the New Apostolic church is right, they can open the gates of heaven and pray you into heaven?
 
Dec 1, 2014
9,701
251
0
#2
[h=2]What is the key to heaven?[/h]
Jesus.
 
M

missy2014

Guest
#3
I was just going to say Jesus theres no greater example for you than Jesus read the gospl es short of that you wont learn humility and humility is great in the eyes of God Jesus said learn of me because he was meek
 
M

missy2014

Guest
#4
your wrong when you say 'they' i know you disagree with the apostolic church because you feel they are the only ones that has a secret but we are All his body and that is scripture so regardless of sin or faults in All denominations whether slave or free greek or jew we need each other there is no perfect church so while you disgruntled by the Apostolic church because you think they have a secret nobody else does actually look at Jesus God not man youll get dissapointed otherwise.
 
K

Kaycie

Guest
#5
No, the keys to the kingdom of heaven are hear, believe, repent, confess, be baptized, and remain faithful until death.
 
Last edited:

p_rehbein

Senior Member
Sep 4, 2013
30,247
6,569
113
#6
Why did we composed a song, "Prayer is the key to heaven", is it, is prayer the key?
So the New Apostolic church is right, they can open the gates of heaven and pray you into heaven?

Who is "we?" And what do the words of a song have to do with Biblical Truth? What a weird question to ask........

Do you know that Jesus said: I am the way, the truth and the life.......no man can come unto the Father except through me.................so, given that, what would YOU SAY is the "key" to heaven?

Go ahead there, jump right in!
 
Jan 7, 2015
6,057
78
0
#7
The key to the Kingdom is the Spirit of knowledge given to us by God through His Word and Spirit to keep us and guide us in the Way...Truth...Life.

Luke 11:52
Woe unto you, lawyers! for ye have taken away the key of knowledge: ye entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering in ye hindered.
 
Feb 7, 2015
22,418
413
0
#8
There are hundreds of hymns that have lyrics which completely miss the Bible.
 
S

sveinen

Guest
#10
Why did we composed a song, "Prayer is the key to heaven", is it, is prayer the key?
So the New Apostolic church is right, they can open the gates of heaven and pray you into heaven?
we think the certain one is Have Christ Fall In Love With You!
bow, Forwards Love :)
 

notuptome

Senior Member
May 17, 2013
15,050
2,538
113
#11
Jesus is certainly the door. If that is the case then the word of God and the Holy Spirit are the keys for by the word and the Holy Spirit one is made wise unto salvation.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
Jan 7, 2015
6,057
78
0
#12
Matthew 16:19
And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
 
P

phil112

Guest
#13
What is the key to heaven?


Jesus.
I would say salvation thru repentence is the key. Jesus is the way, the path that gets us there.
 
M

mikeuk

Guest
#14
Matthew 16:19
And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
A direct reference back to the keys of a davidic kingdom,
Isaiah 22 (from memory) which are the symbol of an office, as steward, in charge whilst the king was away.
The jews were obsessive about their own history, even more obsessive about the old testament and deriving meanings from it, so this meaning of keys will clearly have occurred to them, not least because Jesus was heralded as a davidic king, and the messiah would come from that line.

Trouble is, protestants don't like the obvious conclusion from that argument, even though Luther and Calvin believed it!
 
Last edited:

john832

Senior Member
May 31, 2013
11,365
186
63
#15
Matthew 16:19
And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
And how is this applied?

1Co 12:5 And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord.
1Co 12:6 And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all.

The way the church carries out the work of God today is different than the first century. Neither the church or a man has the authority to loose or bind God's Law.
 
M

mikeuk

Guest
#16
A
. Neither the church or a man has the authority to loose or bind God's Law.
However comfortable that assumption, That is clearly not what it says.
Indeed the other passages "those sins you would forgive , will be forgiven"

Clearly illustrates delegated authority The only question is who and when.
 

john832

Senior Member
May 31, 2013
11,365
186
63
#17
However comfortable that assumption, That is clearly not what it says.
Indeed the other passages "those sins you would forgive , will be forgiven"

Clearly illustrates delegated authority The only question is who and when.
Ok then, you good with fish-Friday are you?
 

john832

Senior Member
May 31, 2013
11,365
186
63
#18
That is called the doctrine of the Primacy of Peter and says that the Catholic church has more authority than the Bible. Nope, I ain't buyin' it.
 
M

mikeuk

Guest
#20
That is called the doctrine of the Primacy of Peter and says that the Catholic church has more authority than the Bible. Nope, I ain't buyin' it.
Interestingly , what I came to this forum for, was not to promote my own beliefs, but to find out how others come to an alternative belief.

Someone or something is given "authority to bind and loose" which had established meanings in judaism and jewish culture,

If you don't like the RC version - what is yours? You cannot ignore it as a scripture! So who does it apply to and when?