What is the Meaning of This Parable

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homwardbound

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Thanks for sharing. That's some good food for thought.

If you have time, I'd appreciate your checking out my other two posts in this thread and give your thoughts. Posts #44 and #88.

The greatness of the Lord's provisions to us in spite of our failings inspired this song that I composed and performed as a dedication to Him.

https://soundcloud.com/fourwindsangels%2Fspiritual-eclipse
Blessings to you and yours.

MM
Liked the music, soothing, thanks, I will check out as can. for some reason, I am not getting post numbers on this sight, just new is next to each post, do not know why?
 

homwardbound

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The Bible as a whole is ALL built upon the foundation of Christ Jesus. However, mistakenly failing to grant unto the Lord the same consideration all us fathers make in our own families, in that we deal differently with our daughters than we do our sons in some respects, even though they were born within one year to many years of each other, the differences in how we deal with them does differ.

Failing to allow our understanding to embrace the Lord's own freedom to deal with mankind in the same manner is to introduce a level of dissonance that is disturbing to say the least.

MM
The Entire Bible to me is
One Gigantic Love letter from God to us all to believe God in son as by his one time willing death, he did take away all sin in his Father's sight for us to enter in free of any charge ask and have a conversation with him. To see God does just love us.
That has been going on throughout the First (Old) Testament, to the New Testament, which is not new until the resurrection of Son, then it is new.
No longer under the curse of Law(s) Romans 7:10 now in a new Law, Hebrews 7:11-12
The Law of Love and mercy to all, the same as is done by Son on the cross for everyone to either believe, receive and be new in love and mercy to all or not. The Law was not put in place, so anyone can obey it. For no flesh nature can, or will, yet by it, we now know we. at least me need God and do not ever care to take it for granted as religion does as being a god over others as if better than others, when no one is better than anyone else, ever as for me at least, thanking God Psalm 100:4, in Son Psalm 103:12, Ezekiel 36:26
A Gigantic Love Letter,
God did not kill Adam or Eve did God? Nope, as a matter of fact he clothed, them, fed them, then put them out to till the ground for themselves, to see thier personal need for God to lead, by their being willing.
Once anyone becomes willing to God, one begins the new life offered them in the risen Son for them, and Father and Son come in and abode, never forcing anyone to do to get or keep as man does still to this day continues to do, religion(s)
Religion = what am I or you doing to get God to be pleased?
Love with the mercy is I just love you, will you believe me, I do know wha tis best for you. That is not easy if ever go through trouble here on earth. Which I bet you have and I know I have
I see to remain to be as a Job in the book of Job. and trust to learn from everything good or bad that happens to me here on earth, hoping for ll to see Jeremiah 29:11 as Father, God knows what is best in God's allowance for bad to happen for now
As I myself am dead, Acts 17:28
 

j55

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Luke chapter 13

I believe its talking about repentance and producing fruit for God. I believe there's correlation between John chapter 15, Vine and Luke chapter 13:9.

Jesus expects Christian people to utilize there gifts and abilities. To plant seeds for God. Teaching sound doctrine. Good fruit.

False brethren produce bad fruit

Pseudadelphos in Greek means - false brethren
Calaph in Hebrew means - sibvert, Pervert
Dichostasia in Greek means - division
Skoteinos in Greek means - full of darkness
Daman in Hebrew means - perish
Temah in Hebrew means - fig tree, Fruit
Diakoneo in Greek means - Elect, teacher, Deacon, cloven tongue.
Chata in Hebrew means - Repent
Chatta in Hebrew means - guilty, sinner
Kurakos in Greek means - Jesus.
Mleah in Hebrew means - produce fruit

Dead wood is bad fruit, worthless. Unprofitable
Good fruit is good works, profitable.

Psalm chapter 9

Wicked go to hell.

Righteous go to heaven.

I went back to the Hebrew and Greek texts. Massorah.

Peace.
 

Bob-Carabbio

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to what events in scripture can this possibly have alluded to dare we think outside the box of religious paradigms?
It's the Book of James issue, of course. If we SAY we have FAITH, but what you "CALL FAITH" produces nothing in terms of good works, then your "FAITH" isn't "FAITH" at all - it's just religious foolishness which didn't CHANGE YOU, and is worthless in terms of SAVING you.

Simple as that.
 

Mem

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I'm sure there are some out there who have loads of commentaries sitting on their home library shelves within which they can look this up and get some unacquainted scholar's opinion. Some of those commentaries can weight upwards of ten pounds, and still be ten pounds of worthless paper that fails much of the time to measure up to the standard of scriptural truth.

So upon your own personal study in the broadness of your knowledge of scripture, to what events in scripture can this possibly have alluded to dare we think outside the box of religious paradigms?

Luke 13:6-9
6 He spake also this parable; A certain [man] had a fig tree planted in his vineyard; and he came and sought fruit thereon, and found none.
7 Then said he unto the dresser of his vineyard, Behold, these three years I come seeking fruit on this fig tree, and find none: cut it down; why cumbereth it the ground?
8 And he answering said unto him, Lord, let it alone this year also, till I shall dig about it, and dung [it]:
9 And if it bear fruit, [well]: and if not, [then] after that thou shalt cut it down.

MM
My first thought is to wonder whether there is any correlation to the parable of the Sower. With consideration that this passage is cross-referenced with Isaiah 5:1-7 which says in v. 6, "...I will command the clouds that rain shall not fall on it," why would anyone dig about and dung it if not to create the best condition for it to be nourished with rain and the nitrogen rich dung in hope that fruit might form on it? As I have read of, a fig will not fruit until its third year of growth. So, if it has fruited by then, then it reasonable to conclude must not have taken in a sufficient amount of either water or nutrients, and one year of assuring it have access to such would be sufficient in determining if, indeed, that is or is not the issue of its fruitlessness, as it either will fruit, and it will be well, or the issue is something worse, something like root rot or a blight or something like that, and there is no hope for it.
 

Mem

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&, with the call to maturity in mind, it's like the three years does allude to the time designated to allow for sufficient maturity before even the vine dresser even expects any fruit.... And since Jesus was expecting fruit on the fig tree when he was hungered, and that He cursed after finding nothing on it but leaves, even though Mark 11:13 says "it was not the season for figs," then He must've been expecting to see the early figs (Micah 7:1:unsure: Woe is me! For I am like one gathering summer fruit at the gleaning of the vineyard; there is no cluster to eat, no early fig that I crave). I looked up 'early figs' and they are described as those ripening on the previous year's branches.