What is the point in being a prophet?

[Adstar]

Personally, I'm totally okay with God not destroying America since, you know, I live here.

So repeatedly in your post you call again and again for people to ""Get out of her"" meaning the Harlot and you believe that the USA is the Harlot but you have not heeded your own call to leave the USA?

Why is that?

Remember you do not have to be within the USA to give the warning you have given here.. As i do not have to be in the USA to post on this topic or on this forum.. I am Australian in Australia..

If you're not convinced now, that's okay with me. I expect that. I expect it from everyone, because God has told me I would be the unheard prophet: a madman screaming in the streets, warning people with wasted breath. And, like I said, if God makes me out to be a liar, I think that's 100% great because of the implications, but when God proves me right, what then? What will it have profited you or anyone else to have believed me in the first place? That question is the reason I posted this thread in the first place.

Well a real Prophet would not have to worry about such a question.. A real prophet should have faith in God .. Meaning trusting in Gods will.. So even if a Prophet cannot see the worth in prophecy they simply conclude that the fault lies with their lack of total situational awareness and they trust that God is prompting them to give the message for a good reason that they are simply lacking the wisdom to perceive..

As for what you're saying, the Beast is part of the harlot.

No no no.. The Harlot rides the beast. so she is separate from the beast.. She is supported by the beast only for a time. Until the time where the harlot has served her purpose and must be discarded like a used up... harlot.. The horns on the Beast are a part of the beast and they shall hate the whore and burn her with fire..

Revelation 17: KJV
16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.


So the beast is not going to destroy itself.. The second coming of Jesus will destroy the beast and all who serve the beast and receive his Mark..

Revelation 6: KJV
15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;

16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?


See you used this scripture in your posts and thats when alarm bells started ringing in my head.. These people are not hiding in the dens under mountains because they fear an incoming ICBM Nuke attack from putin.. They are in dread of the wrath of the LAMB of God who is the returning LORD Jesus Christ..

The Beast becomes both, the destroyer of Babylon and the destroyed Babylon.

Once again the Beast will not be committing suicide.. On the day of the return of the LORD Jesus Christ the beast and the false prophet will be captured and cast into the Eternal Lake of fire..

Revelation 19: KJV
15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.

17 ¶And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;
18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.
19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.
20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

So Jesus is going to defeat the beast and his armies and capture the beast and his false prophet alive and cast them into the lake of fire...

 

[miknik5]

Are you implying that is what I'm here to do? Because it isn't.

I think you've shown yourself very presumptuous in knowing the full will of God or His intentions.

What God has shown me is in no way a message of healing or hope in worldly things, except in His return (which probably no one on this forum will be alive to witness.)

I do know the FULL WILL of GOD.
It is told to ALL MEN in John 6

 

[miknik5]

Here's the misconception. The Spirit of prophesy can work through anyone of us as He so chooses. See 1Cor. 12, Romans12, and Ephesians 4. The 5 fold ministries are the Spirit of God in His body. Along with the function of shepherding, evangelizing, missionary, teaching. We just dont place exalted titles in front of our names. See Matt. 23:4-12 .Simply work the ministry God has placed in you. And that could change on a dime as He so chooses.

For what purpose these ministries?

 

[miknik5]

Repent or... and sure enough they repented, so no or. Later on they went back to their old ways, and then God did what he promised he would do. So fulfilled both ways.

Yet they will stand in the judgment...and will be better off than this generation who did not repent...

Even when ONE GREATER than Jonah had come...

 

[miknik5]

What is a prophet?

A prophet is someone who walks with God bringing the Gospel of Salvation to the World. This is what a prophet is today.

It was the same thing prophets did 4000 years ago. Bringing the Word of God to the World.

To claim you are bringing new information from God that is not in the Scriptures does not make you a prophet. It just means you have been deceived.

The Bible is complete and contains everything God has wanted us to know. There are no new revelations for today.

Yes. And the call of the "prophets" remains today:

If today you hear HIS VOICE, harden not your hearts...

 

[miknik5]

I would hope that God made me a prophet. Even if I get my head chopped off as many of them did, because then I would have a great mansion and a robe of righteousness.

Who gave you that "ROBE of RIGHTEOUSNESS"?
Will you be professing it as your own?

 

[miknik5]

Acts 2:17-18 (KJV)
[SUP]17 [/SUP]And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: [SUP]18 [/SUP]And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:

Numbers 11:27-29 (KJV)
[SUP]27 [/SUP]And there ran a young man, and told Moses, and said, Eldad and Medad do prophesy in the camp. [SUP]28 [/SUP]And Joshua the son of Nun, the servant of Moses, one of his young men, answered and said, My lord Moses, forbid them. [SUP]29 [/SUP]And Moses said unto him, Enviest thou for my sake? would God that all the LORD'S people were prophets, and that the LORD would put his spirit upon them!

WHO is the people with authority that say "there are no more prophets"? WHO is there that says the prophets of the New Covenant are different from the prophets of the OT? HOW can you demand scripture in other topics, & make these claims WITH NO SCRIPTURE AT ALL?

Oooh how I wish people would read their Bibles & quit listening to people in their denominations who wouldn't know the truth if it smacked them between their eyes!!

The New Testament says it, now deal with it! Quit false quoting 1Cor 13:8-12!! Those who explain away NT truth will pay for their lies!

Woe to those who explain away God's word & then swallow a false doctrine without a second thought!

Ye shall be MY WITNESSES.
Anyone speaking anything outside the TESTIMONY of JESUS...is NOT a prophet...

 

[miknik5]

I just got home from work and picked up my daughter for the weekend. I have not read all the replies, but I've read some of them.

I want to help people understand what I'm talking about here. I do not walk around the world telling everyone I'm a prophet (in the due course of time, I've realized that's what I am because the shoe fits and this forum is the only place I'm saying that's what I am). I'm not a seer or fortune teller. I do not have anything to add or take away from the Bible. I'm a born-again believer and follower of Jesus Christ. I follow the Bible and the Holy Spirit. I have very little to say in prophecy apart from what's in the Bible.


I've been given what I understand to be the mystery of the prophets. The understanding of the fulfillment of God's will through His word. I'm fully aware that I'm one of many thousands that have come before me saying similar things. I'm very much aware of that. Unfortunately, all the false prophets that have come before will be one of the many reasons why the mystery that has been revealed to me will be written off as untrue or just an interpretation. I will speak of what the Holy Spirit has revealed to me over 10 years ago, when I was in my early 20s.

The reason I started this thread was not to explain all this, but rather to ask what I asked in the title of the thread: "What is the point in being a prophet?" I would much rather share the hope and joy I have found in Christ rather than this message of judgment the Lord has laid on my spirit.

God did not hide what I've been called to reveal. In fact, He made it quite clear throughout His scriptures, but people refuse to accept the truth of it. I will explain what I can of this prophecy on the fly, but I could give a better explanation later with my notes.

This is the prophecy and the message the Lord revealed to me over 10 years ago and His Spirit has impressed upon me to share: In the Bible, in the book of Revelation, God talks about Mystery Babylon. America is Babylon. And God has raised up Russia to destroy Babylon (America) in divine judgment - COMPLETELY. After the destruction of America, the Great Tribulation Jesus warned about will begin.

This is as short as I can summarize for now. I can explain to you exactly how it all plays out according to the Word of God later, after my kid goes to bed and I get a shower.

The MYSTERY of THE CHURCH which is made up of many members and CHRIST as the HEAD has apportioned to each the measure of HIS SPIRIT that they may build up the BODY until we all reach the UNITY of the FAITH unto the FULL MEASURE of CHRIST...this is why some were given to be teachers and evangelists sir...so that ALL would be fed...even the least of the least IN THE BODY...

The "mystery of the prophets" is a false form of SELF-PROFESSION apart from THE BODY...

 

[miknik5]

According to the Word, in Revelation, anyone who confesses Jesus Christ as the Savior of all who are saved can only make this confession due to the spirit of prophecy they have been given.

In part my response to the tile of this thread is basic. Beacuse we are saved by the Blood of Jesus Christ, being a prophet, or at least guided by the spirit of prophecy, is Life Itself in us and for us.

Jesus Christ is Lord and Savior. His Blood sanctifies me and all for life everlasting with Him in His Kingdom, amen.

There you have it; the spirit of prophecy......All who are saved hve this.

For the TESTIMONY of JESUS is the SPIRIT OF PROPHECY.

Anyone coming bringing "another testimony" is not born of GOD'S SPIRIT...

 

[miknik5]

The point of a prophet from God is to point to Jesus and salvation through His redeeming work on the cross. It is to proclaim the gospel. If that is not the message of a prophet, then he or she is a false prophet or a demonic soothsayer. Who is not to be listened to or heeded even if the signs they foretell comes true because they are sent to lead people away from God and His salvation instead of towards Him.

These so called "prophets" should be professing CHRIST...

 

[miknik5]

The main point of a New Testament prophet is to proclaim the present not the future. We are all 'prophets'. Why should we need to know more of the future than God has already shown us?

What does that mean? We are to proclaim the present? Do you mean proclaim the GOSPEL to the living NOW?
Or do you mean something else?

We were called as HIS WITNESSES and we were called to point all to HIM...
That was the main point...
that men might believe by our words...and seek HIM for themselves...
Just like that first "evangelist" did when she said, "Come, Come and see a "man" who told me everything I ever did.
The work of GOD, if GOD convicts the man who hears and sees with the ears and eyes of the heart, is to turn to know HIM...

It's what the townspeople did...
And they said, we no longer believe by your word, but we have heard HIM for ourselves and we believe that HE is the CHRIST, the SAVIOR of THE WORLD...

Make the hearts of these people fat and give them eyes that see not and ears that hear not...lest they should understand with (the eyes and ears of ) the heart, turn...and HE should heal them.

If today you hear HIS VOICE, harden not your heart.

That was the call of all the prophets...even this one who calls himself "voice in the wilderness"...even his choice of name was that he should be a mouthpiece with all who point to the TRUTH of THE GOSPEL...as a herald and witness of CHRIST and HIM ALONE...

Born of woman, none were better than John...
And yet even the least in the KINGDOM is greater than John...

A KINGDOM requires a KING
And a KINGDOM has a door which is guarded and no man can enter that KINGDOM unless THE KING allows it...

 

[miknik5]

This part of Isaiah 8 is talking about spiritists and soothsayers, those who engage in divination. It's not about those who sense they are called of God to give testimony about Jesus. It seems that you are simply despising prophecy. What is your take on 1 Corinthians 14:1?

There are many who will profess god(s) but will deny THE SON.
Those who deny THE SON, deny THE FATHER who sent HIM.

God in HIS WISDOM, by sending HIS SON, shut up the mouths of every other lying whispering spirit who whispers and mutters everything and anything but THE HIDDEN WISDOM of GOD made known to man which is THE TESTIMONY of JESUS: CHRIST and the MESSAGE of the CROSS, which is foolishness to those who are perishing, but the very POWER and WISDOM of GOD for those who believe.

"Where, where are your "wisemen" now?
Let them tell what the Lord Sabboath will do...

For HE has mixed in them a spirit of dizziness which has caused "egypt" to err in every way..."



Satan knew the truth of GOD...but instead of providing THE TRUTH, he offered bits and pieces, and portions and distortions of the truth to superstitious men who knew of GOD, but did not grow in their knowledge of the TRUTH of ONE GOD.

Bind up the TESTIMONY amongst MY DISCIPLES...and when they tell you to seek spirits, should NOT a people consult THEIR GOD?

To the dead (spirits) for the LIVING ONE?!

NEVER!

To the TESTIMONY and the LAW.
If they speak NOT according to THE WORD, it is because there is no LIGHT therein...

Hardpressed, when trouble comes they will look up, curse their GOD and their KING and be cast into utter darkness.

Blessed the man who waits and trusts in the LORD and does not "go out"....

 

[miknik5]

Perhaps some need to see it in print?

Rev 19:10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellow servant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.

This tells me that even a child who knows and loves Jesus is bestowed with the spirit of prophecy.

JESUS....
THE NAME...spoken in a whisper, or in any other way...with LOVE seasoning our words...and

The "prophecy" is complete...

 

[miknik5]

Did anyone read the two posts above?

I will read it.

 

[miknik5]

Ephesians 4:11-13 New International Version (NIV)

11 So Christ himself gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the pastors and teachers, 12 to equip his people for works of service, so that the body of Christ may be built up 13 until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ.

Well I guess there are no more pastors, evangelists or teachers either. I wonder whose been leading the service & teaching us the word all these years???!!! I guess we all have a different interpretation of scripture. Tread lightly, God will hold us all accountable. And another thing Ma'am, everything must be spoken in love and all I got from what you wrote is some ignorance with not much scripture to back up what you're saying. So please, give us some scripture......with love.

First, I want to say, I love that tagline from Maya Angelou..beautiful..I never heard it before...

As to your post, I think I already responded to another poster with regards to this.
You are right...but for the purpose of feeding all those who are IN HIS BODY, so that we will all reach the UNITY of FAITH...directed in and on HIM alone...

But there are no more "prophets" in the sense that anything needs to be added to the STORY of OUR SALVATION in, by and through HIM...only in the sense that what HE reveals is made known by those who forthtell what is already hidden in HIS WORD.

But do all that is revealed to HIS WITNESSES the thing that saves?
No...it is HIM and HIM alone...and when one is brought in at the moment of hearing the GOSPEL and believing, they are RICH ALREADY and at the moment...
But these teachers, and these evangelists, and these "so called prophets" are to strengthen all so that NONE will be made lame but that ALL in THE BODY will be exhorted to "press on for that upward call in CHRIST" and that NONE will fall back...

 

[miknik5]

The point is to prepare for rejection because inevitably someone will not like your message

These "witnesses/prophets" were NEVER professing ourselves...

And yet, you are right.
Some will not like THE MESSAGE...or the "messenger"...

 

[voiceinthewild]

So repeatedly in your post you call again and again for people to ""Get out of her"" meaning the Harlot and you believe that the USA is the Harlot but you have not heeded your own call to leave the USA?

Why is that?

Remember you do not have to be within the USA to give the warning you have given here.. As i do not have to be in the USA to post on this topic or on this forum.. I am Australian in Australia..




Well a real Prophet would not have to worry about such a question.. A real prophet should have faith in God .. Meaning trusting in Gods will.. So even if a Prophet cannot see the worth in prophecy they simply conclude that the fault lies with their lack of total situational awareness and they trust that God is prompting them to give the message for a good reason that they are simply lacking the wisdom to perceive..



No no no.. The Harlot rides the beast. so she is separate from the beast.. She is supported by the beast only for a time. Until the time where the harlot has served her purpose and must be discarded like a used up... harlot.. The horns on the Beast are a part of the beast and they shall hate the whore and burn her with fire..

Revelation 17: KJV
16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.


So the beast is not going to destroy itself.. The second coming of Jesus will destroy the beast and all who serve the beast and receive his Mark..

Revelation 6: KJV
15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;

16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?


See you used this scripture in your posts and thats when alarm bells started ringing in my head.. These people are not hiding in the dens under mountains because they fear an incoming ICBM Nuke attack from putin.. They are in dread of the wrath of the LAMB of God who is the returning LORD Jesus Christ..



Once again the Beast will not be committing suicide.. On the day of the return of the LORD Jesus Christ the beast and the false prophet will be captured and cast into the Eternal Lake of fire..

Revelation 19: KJV
15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.

17 ¶And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;
18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.
19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.
20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

So Jesus is going to defeat the beast and his armies and capture the beast and his false prophet alive and cast them into the lake of fire...

Except for the two things I bolded, I agree with everything you said.

As for the ICBM nuke attack the men will be hiding in the rocks and caves from, it is one and the same as the wrath of the Lamb. That's what the prophecy concerning Babylon is about, the fact that it is God's wrath poured out on Babylon and this is His method of fulfilling that prophecy.

 

[voiceinthewild]

First, I want to say, I love that tagline from Maya Angelou..beautiful..I never heard it before...

As to your post, I think I already responded to another poster with regards to this.
You are right...but for the purpose of feeding all those who are IN HIS BODY, so that we will all reach the UNITY of FAITH...directed in and on HIM alone...

But there are no more "prophets" in the sense that anything needs to be added to the STORY of OUR SALVATION in, by and through HIM...only in the sense that what HE reveals is made known by those who forthtell what is already hidden in HIS WORD.

But do all that is revealed to HIS WITNESSES the thing that saves?
No...it is HIM and HIM alone...and when one is brought in at the moment of hearing the GOSPEL and believing, they are RICH ALREADY and at the moment...
But these teachers, and these evangelists, and these "so called prophets" are to strengthen all so that NONE will be made lame but that ALL in THE BODY will be exhorted to "press on for that upward call in CHRIST" and that NONE will fall back...

I'm not implying that anything needs to be added to the story of our salvation.

Besides, does anyone ever get an amen of approval from you? You seem very "holier-than-thou".

You say you know God's perfect will and, yet, as far as you know, what I've prophesied is His perfect will. And you reject that.

You should be careful how you judge other people and being critical in how God chooses to use them. I have committed all that I am to the service of the Lord Jesus Christ and in Him only do I trust. I am your fellow brother and servant in the faith. Please don't talk to me so presumptuously and pretentiously.

 

[p_rehbein]

long hours, low or no pay, no home to speak of, always on the move, no one listens to you, no material possessions to speak of, no family, wife, kids, and such, food isn't all that good, just whatever you can find, hmm...........

Oh! I know!

The Retirement Plan is OUTTA DIS WORLD!

 

[damombomb]

Most everyone believes America is Babylon. I do not, but I use too.I believe it is the middle east. Look at what is going on. It surrounds Jeruselem. Everyone prophecies about America for years. But we really don't know things until bible prophecies start coming to pass. Look what is going on now.