What is the true Gospel Message?

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Chester

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Very interesting question: A usual response is that the gospel is the good news of the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus Chrust. But your question, if I understand it, is asking if there is not more.

Jesus is the king of a kingdom - a kingdom that is heavenly, not earthly.

It is easy to make the message into simply what I can get out of it: I accept Jesus as Saviour and get to heaven so I am happy forever more.

But it is more about bringing honor and glory to the King so that his Kingdom is promoted.

Surely we must keep Jesus as the central player in the "drama", but how are we to be a part of the bigger story of His kingdom?




Are we receiving the full gospel message in Christianity? Is the message the complete Gospel? Are we preaching what Jesus Preached and said to preach?

I have been asked these questions and have searched to find if I am. What did Jesus actually preach?
The only thing I can find that Jesus preached was the Kingdom of God also called the Kingdom of Heaven which He also told his Disciples to go out preaching. With that being said what is the Kingdom of God. Is the Gospel only Jesus himself or more?
 
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HisHolly

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Good news is that Christ died, paid our debt, the Vail was torn, reconciliation to God.. The whole point is that it happened so we could be close to God.. same reason the Hebrews left Egypt... Wasn't about the promise.. but the promiser wanting us for Himself..
 
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Marian29

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Are we receiving the full gospel message in Christianity? Is the message the complete Gospel? Are we preaching what Jesus Preached and said to preach?

I have been asked these questions and have searched to find if I am. What did Jesus actually preach?
The only thing I can find that Jesus preached was the Kingdom of God also called the Kingdom of Heaven which He also told his Disciples to go out preaching. With that being said what is the Kingdom of God. Is the Gospel only Jesus himself or more?
And such trust have we through Christ to God-ward:

Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life. {giveth life: or, quickeneth}

2 Corinthians 3:4,6

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And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

John 1:14

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I think God wants us to achieve the understanding of the Holy Scriptures. Jesus came to prove all that is written there and to accomplish the biggest purpose with His Church.
 
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Marian29

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Are we receiving the full gospel message in Christianity? Is the message the complete Gospel? Are we preaching what Jesus Preached and said to preach?

I have been asked these questions and have searched to find if I am. What did Jesus actually preach?
The only thing I can find that Jesus preached was the Kingdom of God also called the Kingdom of Heaven which He also told his Disciples to go out preaching. With that being said what is the Kingdom of God. Is the Gospel only Jesus himself or more?
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

John 3:16

Ps.: Everlasting life can only be lived in the Kingdom of God.
 

oyster67

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And such trust have we through Christ to God-ward:

Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life. {giveth life: or, quickeneth}

2 Corinthians 3:4,6

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And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

John 1:14

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I think God wants us to achieve the understanding of the Holy Scriptures. Jesus came to prove all that is written there and to accomplish the biggest purpose with His Church.
Amen. His Church; Jesus' Church. It is Jesus who is the Bridegroom at the Marriage Supper of the Lamb. Lamb being another title of Jesus. It is obviously all about Jesus.
 

oyster67

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For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

John 3:16

Ps.: Everlasting life can only be lived in the Kingdom of God.
Yes. There is not much left when you try to take the Only Begotten Son out of the picture. Jesus is all. Jesus is everything.
 
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The gospel is the good news that an opening is made so that everyone who believes will be saved from living a life of sins and attain forgiveness and eternal life through Jesus Christ. The gospel is the good news that you can enter into marriage covenant with Him by repenting all of your sins by obeying Hes laws statutes and commandments which is the covenant agreement we enter with Him when we obey and are redeemed and purchased by Hes blood by the renewal of the baptism of the Holy Spirit with evidence of speaking in tongues as the Spirit gives the utterance. Believers are commanded to sell all their stuff and forsake this world by living a quiet and peaceful life separated away from the world so they can serve Christ in holiness and purity in newness of life with the saints and occupy until He comes or we leave this world.
 
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What is the Gospel?

The rules have changed down through history. It's important to know in what dispensation you are referring to first.

What is a dispensation?
(1) ORDERING, ADMINISTRATION, MANAGEMENT; specif : a divine ordering and administration of worldly affairs (2) : a system of principles, promises, and rules divinely ordained and administered (3) a period of history during which a particular divine revelation has predominated in the affairs of mankind.
Put succinctly, a dispensation is a God-revealed body of information given for man's obedience during a certain period of time.

So During what dispensation do we live? We live during the dispensation of grace.
For this cause I Paul, the prisoner of Jesus Christ for you Gentiles,
If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward:
How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words, (Ephesians 3:1-3)
The dispensation of grace was committed to Paul by God himself. This answers the question posed at the beginning of the booklet as to which instruction the believer should follow in choosing his diet. We should follow Paul because we live during the dispensation of grace, and Paul received the revelation of the dispensation of grace.
How do we know that we live during the dispensation of grace as opposed to another dispensation? Under the principle of progressive revelation, we should follow the
most recent information that God has given to man on how to live. We cannot simply choose what we like. The program that God currently administers is the one entrusted to the Apostle Paul.


In other words, what was practiced in Moses' time is not practiced today. Moses was alive during the Dispensation of the Law.
A simple example of this is: We all know we don't need to offer animal sacrifices today. What was commanded at one time in one dispensation is no longer required now. So obviously there are divisions in the Bible that we must account for.

If we are going to make divisions in the Bible, what principle should we use to make divisions?

We should believe every word of the Bible literally.
Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
(2 Peter 1:20)
When God wrote the Bible, he said exactly what he meant to say. The prohibition against private interpretation instructs us to believe the Bible literally: to interpret the verses according to the plain, everyday meaning of the words.
The most important principle for studying the Bible is to ask the following question: TO WHOM IS THIS PARTICULAR PASSAGE ADDRESSED? Every word of the Bible is true, but not every word of the Bible is written for us to apply today.
In the Bible, God has recorded information from before the creation of the earth and continuing onward into eternity future. During this vast period of time, God does different things according to His eternal divine purposes. While accomplishing His purposes, God gives different instructions to different people at different times.
For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope. (Romans 15:4)
This verse tells us that we can learn something from every verse of the Bible, but that does not mean that every verse of the Bible is an instruction for our lives. This is a principle that we all implicitly recognize.
For example, when we read about Noah we can learn a great deal about patience and faithfulness, and yet, we understand that God has not commanded us today to build very large boats. We gain a spiritual benefit from reading about Noah, but it would be disastrous if we attempted to carry out the instructions that were given to Noah. Instead, we must find our doctrine for living in the part of the Bible that is specifically addressed to us.


So what parts of the Bible are addressed TO US as believers today?
The Gospel of Grace given to the Apostle Paul by Jesus Christ is the gopel for us today.
If Paul taught the same gospel as those before him, then why did he call it “my gospel” three times?

Paul uses both the phrases “the gospel” and “our gospel” in his epistles, but when Paul mentions “my gospel” it shows that he had a unique message.

My Gospel: to Jew and Gentile

Paul’s gospel made no distinction between Jew or Gentile. All are counted in unbelief as sinners, and are judged by God without respect of persons whether given the law or not.

Therefore, Paul says:

“In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.“ – Romans 2:16

During time past, Jesus’ earthly ministry, and up to encounter with the Roman Cornelius there was a distinction between Jew and Gentile in Peter’s ministry preaching. The Jews had a special spiritual standing with the Lord. Gentiles did not.

My Gospel to Stablish

Paul says “my gospel” is how God stablishes the Romans.

“Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began…” – Romans 16:25

To the Corinthians, Paul claims to be the masterbuilder who lays the foundation of the grace of God upon which other men build.

“According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon.” – 1 Corinthians 3:10

Resurrection According to My Gospel

Resurrection was a part of Jewish prophecy, Jesus foretold his own, and Peter preached the resurrection of Christ before Paul was saved. So how could Paul say this?

“Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel” – 2 Timothy 2:8

The fact of the resurrection was prophesied, and both Paul and the twelve taught it (1 Cor 15:11). However, the resurrection of Christ was preached by Peter as proof of his Messiahship, and assurance of the kingdom come.

Paul preached the resurrection of Christ as the means of salvation and sanctification for all humanity as part of a new creature, the church the Body of Christ.

Unique to Paul

Paul’s gospel message was entirely of Christ, and so Paul stands alone in calling it “the gospel of Christ” and “Christ’s gospel”, but that he also calls it “my gospel” can only be explained by the fact that Christ gave it first to Paul exclusively.

No one else in scripture could claim “my gospel”, nor can we. We learned the gospel from Paul’s writings, and the twelve apostles taught the same gospel as John the Baptist and of which the prophets spoke (Mark 1:4; Mark 1:15; Acts 3:19-21).

Paul repeatedly says that the dispensation of the grace of God was given to him (Eph 3:2; Eph 3:7; Col 1:25; Rom 15:15).

The Lord revealed to Paul a mystery kept secret since the world began (Rom 16:25; Eph 3:3). Paul was the chosen vessel of the Lord appointed to the office of apostle of the Gentiles (Rom 11:13; 2 Tim 1:11).

A “dispensation of the gospel” was committed unto him (1 Cor 9:17). His gospel was not received by man, nor was it of man, but given to him first by the Lord (Gal 1:1; Gal 1:11). Even Peter had to learn that God had given Paul further information about God’s grace (Gal 2:9).

It was truly his gospel from Christ, and it was his responsibility to preach his gospel wherever he went.

“If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward…to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ” – Ephesian 3:2-9


You will find the Gospel of Grace in the 13 books written by the Apostle Paul... Romans through Philemon.

So what is the Gospel for Today?
It is believing Christ died for our sins ALL OF THEM was buried, and arose again.
I Corinthians 15:1-4
1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

It's realizing that no matter what we do we can NOT obtain righteousness in the sight of God.
Since man "COMES SHORT" and cannot make himself righteous, righteousness will have to be given to him from God, otherwise there is no hope for man. This is exactly what Romans 5:17 says:
This God-given righteousness is available to man "BY THE FAITH OF JESUS CHRIST" according to Romans 3:22. That is to say, the righteousness of God is available to man because of the faithfulness of Jesus Christ. God is not giving out His righteousness as a reward to us because of OUR faithful service to Him. God is giving out His righteousness as a gift to us BECAUSE OF CHRIST'S FAITHFUL SERVICE TO HIM.

Ephesians 2:8:

8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: and he goes on to say, in the next verse that it is:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

So the Gospel of Grace today is believing the death burial and ressurection of Jesus Christ + nothing.

Its not what we do, It's what Christ HAS ALREADY DONE FOR US.
 

miknik5

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Are we receiving the full gospel message in Christianity? Is the message the complete Gospel? Are we preaching what Jesus Preached and said to preach?

I have been asked these questions and have searched to find if I am. What did Jesus actually preach?
The only thing I can find that Jesus preached was the Kingdom of God also called the Kingdom of Heaven which He also told his Disciples to go out preaching. With that being said what is the Kingdom of God. Is the Gospel only Jesus himself or more?
It's HIM.
HE even said, if I cast out demons by the finger of GOD, then the Kingdom of GOD is upon you.
HE'S the..............STRONG MAN...
 
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Revelation 14: 6And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, 7Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
 
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Amellinialman

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First of all what does Gospel mean? Until we know we can understand. The Greek euggelion is eu- good and the Greek anggelos -message therefore good meessage. A good message that even angles desired to look into. Angels were messengers of good tidings and bad tidings, so the Gospel has both a positive and a positive/negative connotatation. Ask and I will explain.
 
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Are we receiving the full gospel message in Christianity? Is the message the complete Gospel? Are we preaching what Jesus Preached and said to preach?

I have been asked these questions and have searched to find if I am. What did Jesus actually preach?
The only thing I can find that Jesus preached was the Kingdom of God also called the Kingdom of Heaven which He also told his Disciples to go out preaching. With that being said what is the Kingdom of God. Is the Gospel only Jesus himself or more?


Gospel is that Jesus has come to redeem us of sins and has provided us a place where he will come again to meet us in the air.. In addition to the new heaven and earth be made restored
 

mailmandan

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The gospel is the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ- which we must obey. How do you obey the gospel? You die to yourself, you bury your old sinful self in the watery grave of baptism, and you rise a new creature alive with the Holy Spirit.

"With flames of fire (hell) God will take vengeance on those who (1) know not God, and (2) obey not the gospel of His Son."
We obey the gospel by choosing to believe the gospel. Romans 10:16 - But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Isaiah says, "Lord, who has believed our report?"

The gospel is not a set of rituals to perform, a code of laws to be obeyed or a check list of good works (including water baptism) to accomplish as a prerequisite for salvation.

The gospel simply sets forth Christ crucified, buried and risen (1 Corinthians 15:1-4) as the Savior of all who believe (trust) in His finished work of redemption as the ALL-sufficient means of their salvation (Romans 1:16).
 
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The Gospel is very similar to what it was for Abraham:

Genesis 17:5 “I am God Almighty; walk before me, and be blameless"




 

Logosophia

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Jesus was a Jew, and he carefully stressed his Jewish identity because everything that he preached and did were a continuum from all that God had promised the world, through the nation of Israel and specifically through the Jewish prophets.

Jesus preached a literal kingdom that differed from what the Jews were expecting, only in two fundamental ways. First, the kingdom will not benefit the Jews alone but all the world (Matthew 28:18, Mark 16:15). Secondly, the kingdom will not be of this present material world (John 18:36). Aside from these slight clarifications of ancient prophecies, Jesus said very little that was different from the expectations of ancient Israel. He only heralded that kingdom, showing that he was the messiah that was promised to bring it to pass and reign as its king forever. His message of love was a great amplification, but it was not new in the development of kingdom thinking within Judaism because when he was questioned, he rooted his message of love in the Hebrew scriptures (Matthew 22:35-40, Mark 12:28-34).

Now, a kingdom must have a king, citizens, scepter or system of rule and territory. Jesus is the king of the coming kingdom of God (Note that Jesus preached a coming kingdom, not one to go to (Matthew 6:10)). Knowledge of God and belief in God's Son Jesus as the ordained or anointed saviour is the criterion for being saved or obtaining citizenship of the kingdom of God, whether one be a Jew or a Gentile (John 1:12, John 3:16, John 17:3, Romans 10:9-10). Love in one's heart which is expressed towards others as righteous and just living is the atmosphere, constitution or scepter of King Jesus' reign and by extension the required character of each law-abiding citizen (Matthew 5:44, Matthew 6:33, Romans 14:17). A new heaven (firmament) and a new earth wherein there will be no evil or disaster or malfunction, is the territory that God is preparing for his children when the kingdom fully arrives (Rev 21:1).

Now, Jesus preached all four components of the kingdom message. He preached himself. He preached the process of entering the kingdom. He preached the lifestyle of kingdom citizens and he preached the true territory of the glorious kingdom. However, those who are not conversant with Jewish figures of speech would miss a lot of the details of Jesus' message. He employed metonymy a lot and would introduce different aspects of the message with the heading "the kingdom of God is like..."

Again, brother Paul was a highly gifted and prolific apostle, and he was sent to the Gentiles too. These important factors make Paul a very troublesome figure in Christianity. First, his teachings, which do not actually contradict Christ's, are easily misunderstood because they can be complex in their presentation. Again, his messages, which were adapted to the Gentile world can also become quite confusing to some. But Paul did what Jesus would have done if Jesus was preaching to Gentiles.

Consider for instance that the book of Genesis takes the existence of God for granted. It never argued for the existence of God because the audience for which the revelation was intended already knew that truth. Jesus also never taught about the existence or identity of the true God. He didn't need to because those whom he spoke to already knew God. Their challenge was of a different nature. Again, Jesus didn't begin his ministry teaching about the kingdom. He began preaching and heralding its arrival because his audience were already expecting that kingdom before even he was born. It was later in his ministry that he began to teach the kingdom in details and clarify things about it. But Paul had to preach to people who did not know the true God, did not know Christ and knew nothing about the promise of the kingdom. So he first always had to preach the true God to them, then preach Christ and make Christ as attractive as possible by amplifying his sacrifices and vicarious death, then he finally could present the promise of the kingdom to them. This is why it appears as if he preached only Christ when Christ himself preached a much broader message.

What baffles me is how willing people are to abandon the clear teachings of Christ for their own interpretations of the life and teachings of Paul. It is so unchristian. Paul himself, knowing that even Angels could fall, admonished us to reject the messages of angels from heaven if they contradict the gospel which we have already received from Christ, as faithfully transmitted by the apostles (Gal 1:8).

Our use of the bible needs a lot of revision. What i understand from Matthew 17:3-5, Hebrews 1:1,2 and John 5:39-40 is that there are degrees of inspiration and revelation and that Jesus is the highest ever degree of revelation of the word and will of God. Moses, Elijah, Paul and everyone else would be largely correct for being prophets, but we expect that they will miss it at times for being imperfect humans in the flesh. As a result, a prophet is perfect only as much as he says exactly what Christ says (agrees totally with the spirit of Christ) and whenever he differs even slightly, i will go with the living logos because God himself declared at the mount that we all must "hear him" above all else (The gospels contain Christ's corrections of laws and actions of Moses and Elijah, for instance).

If all Christians understood this, we will speedily come to the unity of the faith (Ephesians 4:11-13) because all our contentious disagreements will die a natural death.