What must I do to be saved

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mailmandan

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If he is honest he will say that all saved people continue to sin until they die, but that's OK Jesus has paid for all past present and future sins
Ecclesiastes 7:20 - Indeed, there is not a righteous man on earth who continually does good and who never sins.

Romans 3:23 - All have sinned and come short of the glory of God.

1 John 1:8 - If we say that we have no sin (present tense), we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

So much for perfectly obeying all of the commandments.
 
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If he is honest he will say that all saved people continue to sin until they die, but that's OK Jesus has paid for all past present and future sins
Amen,

No man can keep the commandments of God without stumbling in the least .To violate the least is to be found guilty of the whole law

James 2:10For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

One wage eternal separation, and not time out as a unknown .

Scripture defines the word "keep" as guarding something with all our new heart and mind .Watching for the appearing of Him our confidence. No confidence in the flesh as that seen

Philippians 1:6


Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ
 

Latour

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Mat. 19:17And He said to him, "Why are you asking Me about what is good? There is only One who is good; but if you wish to enter into life, keep the commandments."

Do this and please the Lord.


John 14:15 "If you love Me, you will keep My commandments.

Do you believe Jesus? Or does our faith in Jesus count in disobedience?
yep! The real Jesus is as unpopular as ever! Especially among those who say they love Him.
 

Latour

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This is a bit of wasted effort ...but...
There is a old covenant and a new covenant. Two different teachings...
Jesus taught this...it is eternally true.

And there is a real Jesus and a churchy Jesus. The churchy Jesus needs votes and is looking to be accepted. The real Jesus spits people out of His mouth that don't walk in truth and reality. Who is more popular in the modern Church?
 

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Have you perfectly obeyed all of the commandments? :unsure:

Read the bible. Jesus did not say to "perfectly" obey. He said obey. Learn to quote truthfully not deceitfully. Besides you don't understand the difference between the law which is Judaism and the commands of Christ. But then few understand the bible.
 

Latour

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If he is honest he will say that all saved people continue to sin until they die, but that's OK Jesus has paid for all past present and future sins
You speak lies of course. Read the bible. You are walking in your own power and the futility of your own mind...not according to Christ. If you walked in Christ, then you would know Him and the power of His resurrection.

Jesus did not give you carte blanche to sin as you wish. A person who abides in Christ does not and cannot sin...as per the truth.
 

Latour

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We are to obey the commands of Christ according to the Spirit. But many here don't obey Christ because they walk according to the flesh...and claim salvation because they think that Jesus wants to be accepted by them. Foolishness.

The devil twists everything backwards. Jesus DOES NOT seek our acceptance. He doed for the sins of the whole world. He is looking for disciples. It is WE who need to be accepted of Him.

Read the bible....but without an indoctrinated mind that goes looking for nice sounding verses. Seek the truth. Seek the Lord.
 

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Jesus taught this...it is eternally true.

And there is a real Jesus and a churchy Jesus. The churchy Jesus needs votes and is looking to be accepted. The real Jesus spits people out of His mouth that don't walk in truth and reality. Who is more popular in the modern Church?
One Jesus. The cross changed everything. It is what the Bible is all about.
Read the bible. Jesus did not say to "perfectly" obey. He said obey. Learn to quote truthfully not deceitfully. Besides you don't understand the difference between the law which is Judaism and the commands of Christ. But then few understand the bible.
dead wrong. Jesus said too obey the law perfectly. That was his point! You will die trying..
 

mailmandan

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We are to obey the commands of Christ according to the Spirit. But many here don't obey Christ because they walk according to the flesh...and claim salvation because they think that Jesus wants to be accepted by them. Foolishness.
1 Corinthians 1:18 - For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.. 21 - For since, in the wisdom of God, the world through wisdom did not know God, it pleased God through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe.
 

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1 Corinthians 1:18 - For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.. 21 - For since, in the wisdom of God, the world through wisdom did not know God, it pleased God through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe.
That has to do with death bringing life...not accepting Jesus according to the flesh.
 

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There is a direct correlation between accepting Jesus according to the flesh...and a continued sinful walk in the flesh.

And BEING accepted by God for a walk in the Spirit...and an overcoming of sin through the new life IN Jesus.

Which of the 2 is testified of in the bible? Do a study of "accepted" to see who accepts whom for salvation. You will find that many modern "believers" have been taught exactly backwards. The devil has infiltrated into the churches so as to corrupt sound doctrine. We are now at the time where people can no longer "endure" sound doctrine.
 

Embankment

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There is a direct correlation between accepting Jesus according to the flesh...and a continued sinful walk in the flesh.

And BEING accepted by God for a walk in the Spirit...and an overcoming of sin through the new life IN Jesus.

Which of the 2 is testified of in the bible? Do a study of "accepted" to see who accepts whom for salvation. You will find that many modern "believers" have been taught exactly backwards. The devil has infiltrated into the churches so as to corrupt sound doctrine. We are now at the time where people can no longer "endure" sound doctrine.
Latour,
In all sincerity , I am interested, what church do you belong or what denomination are you aligned with?
 

Latour

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Mercy from God is to forgive us our sins because of our weakness in the flesh.
But grace is the empowerment by the Spirit to fulfill the law of God. Grace is not weakness...it is the power that raised Jesus from the dead.

Those who walk in the power of God know it is sufficient to overcome sin. Those who only rely on mercy cannot stop sinning, since they are not yet UNDER GRACE. If you sin then you are still under the law.

How many here, seriously, know this power?

How many know what it is to be dead in Christ?

How many are just indoctrinated by men and have not known the risen lord?

There is yet time to seek the Lord.
 

mailmandan

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That has to do with death bringing life...not accepting Jesus according to the flesh.
Mercy from God is to forgive us our sins because of our weakness in the flesh.
But grace is the empowerment by the Spirit to fulfill the law of God. Grace is not weakness...it is the power that raised Jesus from the dead.

Those who walk in the power of God know it is sufficient to overcome sin. Those who only rely on mercy cannot stop sinning, since they are not yet UNDER GRACE. If you sin then you are still under the law.

How many here, seriously, know this power?

How many know what it is to be dead in Christ?

How many are just indoctrinated by men and have not known the risen lord?

There is yet time to seek the Lord.
Do you teach sinless perfection? Do you believe that you live a sinless, without fault or defect, flawless, absolute perfect life (exactly as Jesus lived) 100% of the time?
 

Latour

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Do you teach sinless perfection? Do you believe that you live a sinless, without fault or defect, flawless, absolute perfect life (exactly as Jesus lived) 100% of the time?
I teach that God is holy and that in Christ there is no sin. Those who are outside of Christ will sin. Those who are actually IN Christ cannot sin. That is how you know where you are!

So you teach a sinful Christ? Or you realize that you are not yet in Christ?

We live as Jesus WHEN we abide in Him. Otherwise we are left to walk in our own strength. I have known both...as all who are being taught of God know. Maturity comes when we are no longer moved from being In Christ.
 

Latour

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Purity: to abide in Christ who is without any spot or wrinkle
Maturity: to REMAIN (abide) in Christ and bear the fruit of a holy walk JUST LIKE JESUS.