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Laodicea

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Matthew 19:16-17 (King James Version)



16And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? 17And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
 
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AnandaHya

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18 He said to Him, “Which ones?”

Jesus said, “‘You shall not murder,’ ‘You shall not commit adultery,’ ‘You shall not steal,’ ‘You shall not bear false witness,’ 19 ‘Honor your father and your mother,’[h] and, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ ”

20 The young man said to Him, “All these things I have kept from my youth.[j] What do I still lack?”

21 Jesus said to him, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell what you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me.”

22 But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful, for he had great possessions.

23 Then Jesus said to His disciples, “Assuredly, I say to you that it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. 24 And again I say to you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.”

25 When His disciples heard it, they were greatly astonished, saying, “Who then can be saved?”

26 But Jesus looked at them and said to them, “With men this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.”
 
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Laodicea

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Matthew 19:16-17 (King James Version)



16And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? 17And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
Does anyone disagree with the words of Jesus spoken here?
 
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greatblue

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Does anyone disagree with the words of Jesus spoken here?
So you admit that you posted this looking for a fight? Unbelievable.

Thank you AmandaHy for actually saying something here with verse 26. Such a powerful teaching section...he had fulfilled the commandments, but self still got in the way.
 
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Laodicea

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So you admit that you posted this looking for a fight? Unbelievable.

Thank you AmandaHy for actually saying something here with verse 26. Such a powerful teaching section...he had fulfilled the commandments, but self still got in the way.
I have not admitted anything, I have just asked a question. So do you agree or disagree with the words of Jesus? It is not a difficult question.
 

tribesman

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These words must be seen in context. The rich young ruler obviously set his hope for eternal life in his keeping of the commandments. When Christ pointed to his lacking in letting go of his "great possessions" (v.21-23) He pointed to the issue of man trying to earn righteousness by own effort as hopeless and impossible (v.23-24). Man ought to set his hope to Christ alone, for with God all things are possible (v.26). And that "impossible" is what happens in regeneration. It must be presumed that one keeps the commandments because he is already righteous and as such in possession of eternal life. The disciples had received the Messiah which is the righteousness of God that the law and the prophets testify of, they had been raised from the dead to life, in their newness of life they forsook all that stood in their way and followed Him and kept the commandments out of love for the Savior.
 
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Laodicea

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These words must be seen in context. The rich young ruler obviously set his hope for eternal life in his keeping of the commandments. When Christ pointed to his lacking in letting go of his "great possessions" (v.21-23) He pointed to the issue of man trying to earn righteousness by own effort as hopeless and impossible (v.23-24). Man ought to set his hope to Christ alone, for with God all things are possible (v.26). And that "impossible" is what happens in regeneration. It must be presumed that one keeps the commandments because he is already righteous and as such in possession of eternal life. The disciples had received the Messiah which is the righteousness of God that the law and the prophets testify of, they had been raised from the dead to life, in their newness of life they forsook all that stood in their way and followed Him and kept the commandments out of love for the Savior.
I agree we cannot earn salvation that is salvation by works that is legalism. The Bible says this
Romans 6:16
(16) Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
Philippians 2:13
(13) For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.

We are to daily surrender to Christ and by doing that we become servants of righteousness. When temptation comes our way we have a choice of 2 things:-
1. Surrender to Christ
2. Surrender to temptation

If we surrender to Christ we become commandment keepers cause we are allowing God to work in us But, if someone professes to follow Christ is not surrendering to Christ and allowing Christ to work in them then how can they be saved. There is 3 steps to salvation not just 1.

Romans 5:10
(10) For if, when we were enemies, we (1)were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, (2)being reconciled, we (3)shall be saved by his life.

The 3 steps are:-
1. Justification
2. Sanctification
3. Glorification



 
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CanadaNZ

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I have not admitted anything, I have just asked a question. So do you agree or disagree with the words of Jesus? It is not a difficult question.
Yes you are looking for a fight and have admitted it by asking the question about one verse without the context of the whole bible and asked it as if disagreeing with you means disagreeing with Jesus. We are to follow the commandments and Jesus tells us:

37 Jesus said to him, “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.' 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.' 40 On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets.


And in the book of James, God tell us that Faith without works is dead. Which means that though Faith does save us the fruit of Faith is obedience. If our faith is not producing any fruit then it is dead and does not truly exist. Does this mean we will never sin? NO, but that Faith will always produce obedience and if you claim to have faith but never obey God your faith is not real (dead).
 
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Israel

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To enter into life, keep the commandments.

The commandments are summed up in two. To love God with all your heart mind and soul. But no man has seen God or heard His voice at any time, so how does one know or could tell the love of God in a person? Because the second commandment IS JUST LIKE IT! To love your neighbor as yourself.

We profit out of the righteousness which is of the law, but to what good does it do when we die as the fool does? So to be perfect, give all you have that being the gains by the law, and give it to the poor. By this the law is established. Not because we simply obey out of fear of death (which still comes to all), but out of love in that we obey KNOWING that the one who does not obey, receives the same reward. Whether we live or we die, we are the Lord's.
 
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To enter into life, keep the commandments.

The commandments are summed up in two. To love God with all your heart mind and soul. But no man has seen God or heard His voice at any time, so how does one know or could tell the love of God in a person? Because the second commandment IS JUST LIKE IT! To love your neighbor as yourself.

We profit out of the righteousness which is of the law, but to what good does it do when we die as the fool does? So to be perfect, give all you have that being the gains by the law, and give it to the poor. By this the law is established. Not because we simply obey out of fear of death (which still comes to all), but out of love in that we obey KNOWING that the one who does not obey, receives the same reward. Whether we live or we die, we are the Lord's.

You know what hit me when I read this, would'nt it be something if this
"young man" ended up being Paul? or should I say Saul.

Act 7:58 And cast him out of the city, and stoned him: and the witnesses laid down their clothes at a young man's feet, whose name was Saul.
I don't say that it is it was just a thought.

But we know he profited much in the Law, and was a pharisee of pharisees.
And he in turn did exactly what you are saying after his enlightenment on the road
to Damascus.

Blessings
 
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Israel

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You know what hit me when I read this, would'nt it be something if this
"young man" ended up being Paul? or should I say Saul.

Act 7:58 And cast him out of the city, and stoned him: and the witnesses laid down their clothes at a young man's feet, whose name was Saul.
I don't say that it is it was just a thought.

But we know he profited much in the Law, and was a pharisee of pharisees.
And he in turn did exactly what you are saying after his enlightenment on the road
to Damascus.

Blessings
I always thought it was. He himself said that by zeal he persecuted the church of God and laid it to waste. But for what he did according to the righteousness which is of the law, blameless.
 
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I always thought it was. He himself said that by zeal he persecuted the church of God and laid it to waste. But for what he did according to the righteousness which is of the law, blameless.

Wow, That's the first time it ever connected for me.
Thank you.

And explains much of why and how paul come to know like he knew,
No wonder The Lord said to him,
Act 9:5
And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.

When he went away sorrowful, he didn't follow The Lord in fact he did just the
opposite, and turned against all who did follow Him.
Wow. That's good.

 
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Laodicea

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Keeping the commandments is about surrender to Christ and allowing Him to work in us.
 
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Laodicea

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Matthew 19:16-17
16And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? 17And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
Revelation 22:14
(14) Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
 
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mmlj29

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1Jn 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
1Jn 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

1Jn 3:24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.

1Jn 5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.

1Jn 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.






 

loveme1

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Revelation 14

12Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of Yahvah God, and the faith of Yahshua the Messiah.



This being after all the scripture that people use to void the Commandments of Yahvah God.
 
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jesus gave the rich young ruler a higher calling. i do not believe jesus requires everyone to give all they have to the poor. jesus called him to be his disciple. he might have replaced judas when they cast lots if he would have followed jesus.