What was Christ's main mission (work) - When He first came to earth?

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Deade

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Many -- not some -- are getting saved. But today the Gospel is FREELY available to all and the Bible is also FREELY available to all in almost every language. Those who remain unsaved choose to do so. They put their hope on anything other than Christ. But this does not mean that Christians worldwide can sit on their hands and do nothing about this. Since the name Jesus in Hebrew (Yeshua or Yahshua) means GOD IS OUR SALVATION then the salvation of (the gift of eternal life to) sinners was the primary objective of Christ at His first coming.

[Jesus said] I am the Living Bread which came down from Heaven: if any man eat of this Bread, he shall live for ever: and the Bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world. (John 6:51)
Are many really getting saved today? Matt. 7:14 "Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it."

Was Christ telling us He was losing the war for souls? What is the hope of 1.4 billion deceived Catholics that are fully into idolatry?
 

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Are many really getting saved today? Matt. 7:14 "Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it."

Was Christ telling us He was losing the war for souls? What is the hope of 1.4 billion deceived Catholics that are fully into idolatry?
Now you are simply going off topic.
 

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"Behold, the lamb of God that takes away the sins of the world.."
This is Christ's mission and if you say the earth is full of darkness because of evil, then in Christ, a new heavens and earth are created.
 

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Do you really believe this last sentence stillness? Is Christ the Savior of all men? Just when and how do you think He will accomplish that?
That sentence is in the bible, meaning we should be askimg the Lord. But from what we know in Revelation, "The sea will vive up the dead that are in them, death and hell will give up the dead that are in them, and everyone will be judged (rewarded) according to His works." He is still their saviiour and as i understand will be rewarded acckrding to how they treated the least estemed of the children of God. This is the second resurrection. "Blessed and holy are those who share in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years."
 

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I think sifting and separation of the tares and the wheat/sheep and goats factors in strongly to your premise.
 

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That sentence is in the bible, meaning we should be askimg the Lord. But from what we know in Revelation, "The sea will vive up the dead that are in them, death and hell will give up the dead that are in them, and everyone will be judged (rewarded) according to His works." He is still their saviiour and as i understand will be rewarded acckrding to how they treated the least estemed of the children of God. This is the second resurrection. "Blessed and holy are those who share in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years."

Yes, the first resurrection saints are that little flock, the peculiar people.

Titus 2:14 "Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works."

1 Peter 2:9 "But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:"

Will everyone have the same chance of serving God at their "rewards" time?
 

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Yes, the first resurrection saints are that little flock, the peculiar people.

Titus 2:14 "Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works."

1 Peter 2:9 "But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:"

Will everyone have the same chance of serving God at their "rewards" time?
I am not yet chosen, the Lord told me among other things to encourage me: Your not ready.
And: Your time is very short.
I may as well include here what He told me to get ready six monts ago.

Directions received in preparation for Journey:
"We will give ourselves to prayer."
Withhold nothing, take nothing, you have to be determined to succeed. Your prayer life must increase, content to participate in the mystery of God. Go, this is a time of prayer; it’s the only way you'll succeed. Keep yourself in the Love of God, don't give up: you’re not ready. Be still: know that I Am with you. "Wait on the Lord and He will strengthen your heart." Your prayer life has to extend in all areas of your life. What you do not realize is that the war is accomplished: it's not as simple as you getting the power, you have to Love the Truth. Give up your life, no more going back to idols.
Don't be afraid, above all surrender (give Him your fear). Don’t stay outside, don’t worry, Psalm 118. Be Faithful unto death. Seek Me more than your necessary food. Don’t fight against the Holy Ghost, give yourself to prayer. Give yourself to Him, you need to change, no longer desire earthly things, come and be reconciled. Make the most of your time, live in Prayer, don't want anything else. Dont forget.
 

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The only mission of Jesus from birth to death is to connect people to God, and save them giving them everlasting life, and by doing so also caused mankind to take back dominion of the earth which one day Jesus will rule the earth, God in the glorified body of the man Christ Jesus.
Well Matt, I do not believe man ever lost dominion. Is it not God Himself that granted that dominion to man (see Gen. 1:26)? God cannot hold mankind accountable if He reassigns dominion. Mankind is still in charge despite everything going awry.
 

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Well Matt, I do not believe man ever lost dominion. Is it not God Himself that granted that dominion to man (see Gen. 1:26)? God cannot hold mankind accountable if He reassigns dominion. Mankind is still in charge despite everything going awry.
Still going off topic I see.
 

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What are you going on about?
It's your thread. Have you forgotten what we're discussing?
And if this were Satan, what then would it mean to say he would die the death of the uncircumcised? Give me scripture that states anything about death of the uncircumcised.
OK

Were not all the angels perfect until they sinned, until they rebelled?
Yes. They had free will, as did their creator, as do humans who are made in that image and likeness of our creator, so as to also have free will.
God's Omniscience would have known Lucifer would rebel.
Why did God let him live? Cast him to the new earth so as to roam here as a hungry lion seeking souls to devour? And after he led the first people to rebel and eat of the fruit of the tree of knowledge.
Why?
Why did God not just forgive Adam and Eve for being led to disobey Him and by a highly intelligent adversary to righteousness?
So that by Adam sin entered the world, not all people, the world.
Why?
 

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Do you really believe this last sentence stillness? Is Christ the Savior of all men? Just when and how do you think He will accomplish that?
The Epistle of 1st Corinthians chapter 15:27 For “God has put all things in subjection under his feet.” But when it says, “all things are put in subjection,” it is plain that he is excepted who put all things in subjection under him. 28 When all things are subjected to him, then the Son himself will also be subjected to him who put all things in subjection under him, that God may be all in all.





The Book of 1st Timothy chapter 4:9 The saying is trustworthy and deserving of full acceptance. 10 For to this end we toil and strive, because we have our hope set on the living God, who is the Savior of all people, especially of those who believe.
29. "...“Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world! " The Book of John chapter 1
The Book of 1st John chapter 2:2"He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world."
The Epistle of 1st Corinthians chapter 1:30 "And because of him[e] you are in Christ Jesus, who became to us wisdom from God, righteousness and sanctification and redemption,"
 

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Yes. They had free will, as did their creator, as do humans who are made in that image and likeness of our creator, so as to also have free will.
God's Omniscience would have known Lucifer would rebel.
Why did God let him live? Cast him to the new earth so as to roam here as a hungry lion seeking souls to devour? And after he led the first people to rebel and eat of the fruit of the tree of knowledge.
Why?
Why did God not just forgive Adam and Eve for being led to disobey Him and by a highly intelligent adversary to righteousness?
So that by Adam sin entered the world, not all people, the world.
Why?
You are giving me the results of Christ's intervention, not the reason. You still gave me no scripture of Satan's death of the uncircumcised. Why indeed, did God not just forgive Adam and Eve? That's the reason I am looking for.
 

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Off topic...but I just realized I posted a short post...been a while :D
 

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You are giving me the results of Christ's intervention, not the reason.
John 3:16 should suffice.
quote]You still gave me no scripture of Satan's death of the uncircumcised.[/quote] You didn't check the link behind "OK" in my post?
Why indeed, did God not just forgive Adam and Eve? That's the reason I am looking for.
Well, in one sense He did. Because He didn't destroy them for having disobeyed. Also, the Book of Isaiah chapter 53 tells us that God would forgive them through the coming Savior.
And yet, that makes for another question doesn't it.
After God saw that they'd eaten of the forbidden fruit He observed they had become just like Him (us).

The Book of Genesis chapter 3:22 And the LORD God said, "The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever."

When Adam and Eve were made in the image and likeness of God, as are we all to this day, why would it be wrong for them to also be like their Father, possessing knowledge of good and evil? When had they been imbued with that awareness, knowledge, in the beginning, they would have known how to obey the first law of God; thou shalt not eat....
 

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John 3:16 should suffice.
You still gave me no scripture of Satan's death of the uncircumcised.

You didn't check the link behind "OK" in my post?
Well, in one sense He did. Because He didn't destroy them for having disobeyed. Also, the Book of Isaiah chapter 53 tells us that God would forgive them through the coming Savior.
And yet, that makes for another question doesn't it.
After God saw that they'd eaten of the forbidden fruit He observed they had become just like Him (us).

The Book of Genesis chapter 3:22 And the LORD God said, "The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever."

When Adam and Eve were made in the image and likeness of God, as are we all to this day, why would it be wrong for them to also be like their Father, possessing knowledge of good and evil? When had they been imbued with that awareness, knowledge, in the beginning, they would have known how to obey the first law of God; thou shalt not eat....
Sorry, I did not realize it was a link until you said it. If God forgave them fully, why did Christ have to come to us in the flesh?
 

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Sorry, I did not realize it was a link until you said it. If God forgave them fully, why did Christ have to come to us in the flesh?
Isaiah 53 is prophecy of the Savior to come. While the chapter 4 after the fall in Genesis 3, tells us that Adam and Eve had a relationship with God again because they had taught their son's, Cain and Able, to sacrifice for sins. If they taught their son's this knowing what it meant, surely Adam and Eve also sacrificed and asked forgiveness for their sin.
We can say Adam and Eve knew of this sin covering by blood sacrifice when God, in Genesis 3, after they sinned having eaten of the fruit of the tree of knowledge, covered them with animal skins.
The Bible uses symbolic language as we know, so this would then tell us that animal skins would necessarily entail blood letting, and the skins then covering Adam and Eve would symbolically put their sin in the garden under the blood sacrifice of those animals killed to provide them covering.
 

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Isaiah 53 is prophecy of the Savior to come. While the chapter 4 after the fall in Genesis 3, tells us that Adam and Eve had a relationship with God again because they had taught their son's, Cain and Able, to sacrifice for sins. If they taught their son's this knowing what it meant, surely Adam and Eve also sacrificed and asked forgiveness for their sin.
We can say Adam and Eve knew of this sin covering by blood sacrifice when God, in Genesis 3, after they sinned having eaten of the fruit of the tree of knowledge, covered them with animal skins.
The Bible uses symbolic language as we know, so this would then tell us that animal skins would necessarily entail blood letting, and the skins then covering Adam and Eve would symbolically put their sin in the garden under the blood sacrifice of those animals killed to provide them covering.
All that is well said, but still just details. Does it really answer why?
 

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All that is well said, but still just details. Does it really answer why?
Yes.
Because Jesus was the unblemished sinless lamb of God. He was the last blood sacrifice on the altar, cross, for the worlds sins. Taking them upon himself there.