What was the "different gospel" in Galatians 1:6?l

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HQ

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Sure thing. Send me a private message and we can discuss.
 

Marcelo

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Originally Posted by eternally-gratefull


However, when paul says another gospel. He is talking about any gospel which is different.
Yes, probably you are right. Paul does not specify (in chapter 1) what false gospel was being preached in Galatia. He starts talking about the law only in verse 15 from chapter 2.
I'm returning to my previous opinion: The "different gospel" can only be grace + law because Paul talks about it throughout his letter. Paul wouldn't start saying that the Galatians were falling for a certain type of false gospel (without specifying it) and then use the rest of his letter to warn them about another type of heresy.

I am quite convinced now that the "different gospel" in Galatians 1:6 was indeed a mixture of grace and law.
 
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I'm returning to my previous opinion: The "different gospel" can only be grace + law because Paul talks about it throughout his letter. Paul wouldn't start saying that the Galatians were falling for a certain type of false gospel (without specifying it) and then use the rest of his letter to warn them about another type of heresy.

I am quite convinced now that the "different gospel" in Galatians 1:6 was indeed a mixture of grace and law.
Look at Galatians 1:6 again:

I marvel that you are so soon removed from him [that called you into the grace of Christ] unto another gospel.

What Paul is saying is that some were turning from "him" – whoever it was who taught them about the grace of Christ – and they were following another gospel – a gospel which was not the grace of Christ.

In Galatians 5:4 Paul told them Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.

They were no longer walking in the grace of Christ if they were following the "other" gospel wherein they sought to be justified by the law.

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I'm returning to my previous opinion: The "different gospel" can only be grace + law because Paul talks about it throughout his letter. Paul wouldn't start saying that the Galatians were falling for a certain type of false gospel (without specifying it) and then use the rest of his letter to warn them about another type of heresy.

I am quite convinced now that the "different gospel" in Galatians 1:6 was indeed a mixture of grace and law.
Again in the context of Galations, the context is grace and law

But when Paul says if anyone teach a different gospel, which is nbot another. He means any gospel that is different than the gospe4l he gave.

thatcould mean grace plus law

Grace plus works

grace plus anything

they all fit the words paul used. But yes, the context on galations is grace plus law.
 

Bladerunner

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The Gospel was certainly under attack by the Judaizers then and is under attack today by those who are mixed up in various false religions and cults who play the same game in salvation as every other false movement of Christendom. They teach that salvation is by grace plus law, faith plus works. Their doctrine of salvation is a subtle mixture of law and grace that is a perversion of the Gospel. :(
Yeah, They just cannot get past Acts 2:38 mainly because they did not read Acts 2:37
 

Hizikyah

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Romans 8:5-8, "For those who live according to the flesh, set their minds on the things of the flesh; but those who live according to the Spirit, set their minds on the things of the Spirit. For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Because the carnal mind is enmity against; (bitterly opposed to), YHWH; for it is not subject to the Law of YHWH, nor indeed can be. So then, those who are of the flesh cannot please YHWH."


Revelation 12:17, “And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to fight with the remnant of her seed, those guarding the Commands of יהוה and possessing the Witness of יהושעMessiah."


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John/Yahanan 14:15, “If you love Me, keep My commandments.”[/FONT]
 
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What was the "different gospel" in Galatians 1:6?

Crap like this:

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[FONT=&quot]Galatians chapter 1

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I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you to live in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel—[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT][FONT=&quot]7 which is really no gospel at all.[/FONT]


If the "different gospel" was not grace + the law of Moses, what was it then?
I think he meant, Your turning to something other then what Jesus taught
 

Grandpa

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Galatians 1:6-7
[FONT=&quot]6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.

Romans 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.

Matthew 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

Galatians 2:19-21
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[FONT=&quot]19 For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.


Why do legalists and Judaizers not understand the gospel? They have tried to add the law to Christianity since Christianity began. It looks like the oldest error in Christianity. Its the one that Paul teaches against in all his epistles. He explains it over and over and they still can't understand.

I'm just glad that there are some who do understand the Gospel of Christ. Otherwise we would all follow after their same error.[/FONT]
 

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Galatians 1:6-7
6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.

Romans 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.

Matthew 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

Galatians 2:19-21

19 For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God.
20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

Why do legalists and Judaizers not understand the gospel? They have tried to add the law to Christianity since Christianity began. It looks like the oldest error in Christianity. Its the one that Paul teaches against in all his epistles. He explains it over and over and they still can't understand.

I'm just glad that there are some who do understand the Gospel of Christ. Otherwise we would all follow after their same error.
Amen! In 2 Corinthians 4:3-4, Paul explains why people do not believe the Gospel - But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
 

Marcelo

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Keep reading through.. Remember Paul’s writings are said to be hard understood..
I've read the whole book several times and the central message is: Christians are not under the Law.
 
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Galatians chapter 1

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I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you to live in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel—
7 which is really no gospel at all.


If the "different gospel" was not grace + the law of Moses, what was it then?
Finneyism, freewillism decisional regeneration.
 

Nehemiah6

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Re: What was the "different gospel" in Galatians 1:6?

Mormons "add" the Book of Mormon to the Bible and call it the "fullness of the gospel," but it's really a "different" gospel.
Actually if you read the Book of Mormon, it generally supports the Gospel, but is a mixture of truth and error. With reference to Acts 2, you will not be able to fault this from the Book of Mormon, the Book of Moroni, ch 6 verses 4 & 5.

4 And after they had been received unto baptism, and were wrought upon and cleansed by the power of the Holy Ghost, they were numbered among the people of the church of Christ; and their names were taken, that they might be remembered and nourished by the good word of God, to keep them in the right way, to keep them continually watchful unto prayer, relying alone upon the merits of Christ, who was the author and the finisher of their faith.

5 And the church did meet together oft, to fast and to pray, and to speak one with another concerning the welfare of their souls.
It would seem that Doctrines and Covenants is more of a deviation from Bible truth.
 

Grandpa

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I've read the whole book several times and the central message is: Christians are not under the Law.
I think this also sheds some light on the error of the wicked that Peter talks about.

2 Peter 3:17-18
[FONT=&quot]17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]18 But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.

If the solution for not being led away with the error of the wicked is to grow in the Grace and Knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ then the error of the wicked must be turning away from Gods Grace and the Knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ.

Galatians 5:4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.


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Hizikyah

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I think this also sheds some light on the error of the wicked that Peter talks about.

2 Peter 3:17-18
17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.
18 But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.

If the solution for not being led away with the error of the wicked is to grow in the Grace and Knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ then the error of the wicked must be turning away from Gods Grace and the Knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ.

Galatians 5:4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.


Peter is talking about twisting what Paul said into an excuse for Lawlessness:

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]2 Peter/Kepha 3:15-17, "And count the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote to you according to the wisdom given him, as he does in all his letters when he speaks in them of these matters. There are some things in them that are hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures. You therefore, beloved, knowing this beforehand, take care that you are not carried away with the error of lawless people and lose your own stability."[/FONT]

Also there is a difference between being subject to the Creator's Commands and seeking to be justified by one keeping of said Commands. Big difference:

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Acts 24:14, "But I confess this to you, that after the way which they call heresy, so I (Paul) worship the Father of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the Law and in the Prophets."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 7:25, "Thanks be to YHWH, I have deliverance through Yahshua Messiah our King! So then, with this same mind, I myself serve the Law of YHWH, while in the flesh that is yet subject to the law of sin."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Acts 21:24, "Take them, and be purified with them, and pay their expenses so that they may shave their heads. Then everyone will know that those things they were informed about you (forsaking the Law), were lies, and that you (Paul), yourself, walk orderly, and keep the Law."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 Corinthians 7:19, "For neither circumcision counts for anything nor uncircumcision, but keeping the commandments of Yah?"

Here we can see Paul says to establish that Law in conforming with faith:
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 3:28, "For we maintain that a person is justified by faith apart from the works of the Law."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 3:31, "Are we then doing away with the Law through the faith? By no means! Rather, we establish the Law!"[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 6:1-2, "What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound? By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it?"[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 John 3:4, "Whoever commits sin, transgresses also the Law; for sin is the transgression of the Law."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 7:7, Shall we therefore say that the Law is sin? No! By no means! But to the contrary, I did not know sin; transgression of the Law, except through the Law, for I did not know lust, unless the Law had said: Do not covet."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 7:12, "Therefore the Law is holy, and the commandments are holy, and just, and righteous."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Ephesians 6:2-3, "Honor your father and mother; which is the first commandment with a promise: That it may be well with you, and you may live long on the earth."

[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Here we can see Paul says to establish that Law in conforming with faith:
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 3:28, "For we maintain that a person is justified by faith apart from the works of the Law."[/FONT]



[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 3:31, "Are we then doing away with the Law through the faith? By no means! Rather, we establish the Law!"[/FONT]



[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Revelation 12:17, “And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to fight with the remnant of her seed, those guarding the Commands of [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]and possessing the Witness of [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהושע [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Messiah."



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Hizikyah

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]2 Thessalonians 2:3-12, “Let no one deceive you in any way, because the falling away is to come first, and the man of lawlessness is to be revealed, the son of destruction, who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called the Most High or that is worshipped, so that he sits as the Most High in the Dwelling Place of the Most High, showing himself that he is the Most High. Do you not remember that I told you this while I was still with you? For the mystery of iniquity is already working, but the One restraining him will continue to restrain him, until he is made to appear in the midst. And then that lawless one will be revealed, whom Yahshua will remove with the breath of His mouth, and make powerless with the appearance of His coming-- Whose coming is according to the energy of Satan, who works with all power, and signs, and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of sin in those who are perishing, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this reason, YHWH will send them strong delusion, that they would believe the deception, In order that all those may be judged as not having believed the truth, but as having delighted in sin.”[/FONT]


“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]mystery” is word # G3466 - Mustérion, Strong's Concordance, mustérion: a mystery or secret doctrine, Original Word: μυστήριον, ου, τό, Part of Speech: Noun, Neuter, Transliteration: mustérion, Phonetic Spelling: (moos-tay'-ree-on), Short Definition: anything hidden, a mystery, Definition: a mystery, secret, of which initiation is necessary; in the NT: the counsels of God, once hidden but now revealed in the Gospel or some fact thereof; the Christian revelation generally; particular truths or details of the Christian revelation[/FONT]


—[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Thayer's (New Testament Greek-English Lexicon) From a derivative of μύω [[muo]] (to shut the mouth); a secret or "mystery" (through the idea of silence imposed by initiation into religious rites):—mystery.[/FONT]


“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]iniquity” is word # G458 - anomia Strong's Concordance, lawlessness, Short Definition: lawlessness, iniquity, Definition: lawlessness, iniquity, disobedience, sin[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"iniquity" is: #0458 anomia {an-om-ee'-ah} from G0459[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Greek Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1) the condition of without law 1a) because ignorant of it1b) because of violating it, 2) contempt and violation of law, iniquity, wickedness[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mattithyah 24:12, "And because iniquity will abound, the love of the many will grow cold."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 7:21-23, “Not everyone who says to Me; Master! Master! will enter into the Kingdom of YHWH, but only he who does the will of My Father Who is in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day; Master! Master! Have we not prophesied in Your Name, and cast out demons in Your Name, and in Your Name performed many wonderful works? But then I will declare to them; I never knew you. Get away from Me, you who practiceiniquity.”[/FONT]


“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]practice” is word #G2038 Strong's Concordance - ergazomai: I work, trade, do, Original Word: ἐργάζομαι, Part of Speech: Verb, Transliteration: ergazomai, Phonetic Spelling: (er-gad'-zom-ahee), Short Definition: I work, trade, do, Definition: I work, trade, perform, do, practice, commit, acquire by labor.[/FONT]


“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]iniquity” is word #G458 Strong's Concordance - anomia, lawlessness, Short Definition: lawlessness, iniquity, Definition: lawlessness, iniquity, disobedience, sin[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 John 5:2-3, "By this we know that we love the children of Yah, when we love Yah and guard His commands. For this is the love for Yah, that we guard His commands, and His commands are not heavy."[/FONT]
 

Hizikyah

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Let's read the next verses:

.14(Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law. 15They show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts sometimes accusing them and at other times even defending them.)

See, Hizikyah? Paul says the Gentiles don't have the law = The law was not given to us.
Most gentiles dont grow up in the teaching of the word like the Hebrews used to in Paul's day. "

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 3:1-2, “What then is the advantage of the Yehuḏi, or what is the value of the circumcision? Much in every way! Because firstly indeed, that they were entrusted with the Words of Yah.”[/FONT]


There is only one way:

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Revelation 14:12-13, “Here is the endurance of the set-apart ones, here are those guarding the Commands of [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]and the Belief of [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהושע[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]. And I heard a voice out of the heaven saying to me, Write, Blessed are the dead who die in the Master from now on. Yes, says the Spirit, in order that they rest from their labors, and their works follow with them.”

It's not Hebrews have to gurad that mean old Law and Gentiles are free to steal , murder and lie...

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 2:12, “For as many as have sinned without the Law, will also perish without the Law, and as many as have sinned in the Law, will be judged by the Law.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]2 Corinthians 5:10, “For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Messiah, that each one may receive his reward according to what he has done in the body, whether righteous or evil.”[/FONT]


“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]judgment seat” is word #G968 - béma: a step, raised place, by impl. A tribunal, Original Word: βῆμα, ατος, τό, Part of Speech: Noun, Neuter, Transliteration: béma, Phonetic Spelling: (bay'-ma), Short Definition: the space covered by a step of the foot, a tribunal, Definition: an elevated place ascended by steps, a throne, tribunal.[/FONT]

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Isaiah 58:11-14, "YHWH will guide you continually, and satisfy your soul in drought, and make fat; (strengthen), your bones. You will be like a watered garden, and like a spring of water, whose waters do not fail. And those of you will rebuild the old waste places; you will raise up the foundations of many generations; and you will be called the Repairer of the Breach, the Restorer of Streets to Dwell In; If you turn away your foot from breaking the Sabbath: from doing your pleasure; your own business, your own pleasure, on My holy day, and call the Sabbath a delight; the holy day of YHWH honorable, and will honor Him by not doing your own ways, nor finding your own pleasure, nor engaging in idle conversation: Then you will find your joy in YHWH; and I will cause you to ride on the high places of the earth, and feed you with the heritage of Yaaqob your father, for the mouth of YHWH has spoken it."

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Revelation 22:11-15, “He who does wrong, let him do more wrong; he who is filthy, let him be more filthy; he who is righteous, let him be more righteous; he who is set-apart, let him be more set-apart. And behold, I come quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give every man according as his work will be. I am the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. Blessed are those who keep His Laws, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For outside are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and worshipers of gods and everyone who professes to love, yet practices falsehood.”[/FONT]
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