When was Israel s last opportunity to recieve their messaih ?

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eternally-gratefull

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As individuals still can, But GOD cut Israel off as HIS chosen nation 3 & a haft years after the Cross,
When they stoned Steven, The Gospel when out to the World, AND is is to who so ever will come to CHRIST NOW till the end of the World,
Um no, actually it was some 40 years after the cross. When the people of the prince who is to come destroyed he temple and city,

the gospel was always supposed to go out into the world. It was prophisied in the OT, and Paul mentions it in Romans 9 through 11
 
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Yes of course . But I'm referring to Israel collectively. As in the leaders ect . The Nation .
When Paul said so in Romans 11. After the time of the Gentiles has been completed,
we read in Daniels prophecies and some others, that will be when Christ returns, and destroys the final gentile world power,
 
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Um no, actually it was some 40 years after the cross. When the people of the prince who is to come destroyed he temple and city,

the gospel was always supposed to go out into the world. It was prophisied in the OT, and Paul mentions it in Romans 9 through 11
NO JESUS TOLD THEM -
Matthew 23:37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, [thou] that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under [her] wings, and ye would not!
23:38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.
23:39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed [is] he that cometh in the name of the Lord.
GOD had left their temple before JESUS was even put on the CROSS.
 

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When Paul said so in Romans 11. After the time of the Gentiles has been completed,
we read in Daniels prophecies and some others, that will be when Christ returns, and destroys the final gentile world power,
That's pretty much how I see it as well. The end of everyone's last opportunity to accept Christ, including the Jews, is during the two witnesses forty two month testifying period in Jerusalem, at the conclusion of which Christ returns, commences to reign (Revelation 11:15), and destroys the final gentiles world power (Revelation 11:18).

Revelation 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
Revelation 11:18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.
 
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NO JESUS TOLD THEM -
Matthew 23:37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, [thou] that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under [her] wings, and ye would not!
23:38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.
23:39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed [is] he that cometh in the name of the Lord.
GOD had left their temple before JESUS was even put on the CROSS.
I bolded the part that you should understand and I will recopy it

23:39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed [is] he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

yes it was left desolate as was prophesied not only by Jesus by OT prophets. And it will remain desolate until they blessed us he who Comes in the name of the lord

Jesus would not have said that if there was no possibility of repentance and restoration
 
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Hey Guojing, always appreciate your perspective. Do you see opportunities in Acts 3,4,5,7 and then after, even up to 28 ?
Yes of course there were opportunities all the way to Acts 28. God was trying to ensure that the nation had no excuses for their fall.

At Acts 28, the diaspora of Israel had the opportunity to accept the gospel of the kingdom, and they still rejected it. I believe that is when the nation has fallen for good when Paul stated

25 And when they agreed not among themselves, they departed, after that Paul had spoken one word, Well spake the Holy Ghost by Esaias the prophet unto our fathers,

26 Saying, Go unto this people, and say, Hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and not perceive:

27 For the heart of this people is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes have they closed; lest they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

28 Be it known therefore unto you, that the salvation of God is sent unto the Gentiles, and that they will hear it.

Some people believed that this is where the sign gifts has finally ceased. They understand that 1 Cor was written before Acts 28, where Paul gave instructions on how tongues and prophecies are to be practiced in gatherings. At the same time, he was telling them that these would eventually fade away, to be replaced with faith hope and love, which are the greater gifts (1 Cor 12:31 and 1 Cor 13)

But after Acts 28, when Paul started writing his prison epistles onwards, Ephesians, Philippians and Colossians onwards, there were no mention of tongues and prophecies in them again.
 
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I bolded the part that you should understand and I will recopy it

23:39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed [is] he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

yes it was left desolate as was prophesied not only by Jesus by OT prophets. And it will remain desolate until they blessed us he who Comes in the name of the lord

Jesus would not have said that if there was no possibility of repentance and restoration
I dis agree with you, GOD KNOWS FROM THE BEGINNING TO THE END, And he only give them 3 1/2 years after his death, to repent, AND Daniel tell US SO, And GOD showed Daniel the time for the JJEWS.
 
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I dis agree with you, GOD KNOWS FROM THE BEGINNING TO THE END, And he only give them 3 1/2 years after his death, to repent, AND Daniel tell US SO, And GOD showed Daniel the time for the JJEWS.
Yep he does

thats why he told us he would gather israel from all the placed where they were scattered bring them back to the land of their fathers, cause them to turn from their wicked ways, and restore them as one nation.

he never gave them 3.5 years. I do not know where you came up with this but it’s not found in scripture
 
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Yep he does

thats why he told us he would gather israel from all the placed where they were scattered bring them back to the land of their fathers, cause them to turn from their wicked ways, and restore them as one nation.

he never gave them 3.5 years. I do not know where you came up with this but it’s not found in scripture
What you GOT to REMEMBER IS THAT TO BE SAVED YOU HAFT TO BE JEWS.
Galatians 3:29 And if ye [be] Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. IT don't matter ABOUT THE out JEW anymore, BUT it is A Jew that is A Jew inwardly NOW , WHICH THE GENTILE CAN be ALSO IF THEY ARE SAVED,
 
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What you GOT to REMEMBER IS THAT TO BE SAVED YOU HAFT TO BE JEWS.
Galatians 3:29 And if ye [be] Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. IT don't matter ABOUT THE out JEW anymore, BUT it is A Jew that is A Jew inwardly NOW , WHICH THE GENTILE CAN be ALSO IF THEY ARE SAVED,
Nope

there were people saved long before there were jews, long before abraham who has many more children than just through Isreal. Ninevah was saved because they repented at the teaching of jonah, they never became jews, All the nations would be blessed through him not just jews

again, the Bibsays all Isreal will be saved when they repent, when they are delivered by their king
 
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Nope

there were people saved long before there were jews, long before abraham who has many more children than just through Isreal. Ninevah was saved because they repented at the teaching of jonah, they never became jews, All the nations would be blessed through him not just jews

again, the Bibsays all Isreal will be saved when they repent, when they are delivered by their king
NO one that lives in sin will be saved, Jews or not JEWS. JUST like THE ten COMMANDMENTS GO ALL THE WAY BACK TO CREATION,