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Yep sir, the Gospel is not the KJV but the gospel is found in the KJV. The very important matter is the gospel but Paul also speaks of the whole counsel of God and the scriptures which are able to make thee wise unto salvation. So the words of God is very important and are not given to changed.
2 Timothy 2:15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
2 Timothy 2:15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
You have made a Scripture error again.
2 Timothy 2:15 is this:
Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth.
Its interesting that you fight for "the only one perfect Scripture translatio" and make so many mistakes quoting it
2 Timothy 2:15 is this:
Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth.
Its interesting that you fight for "the only one perfect Scripture translatio" and make so many mistakes quoting it
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You have made a Scripture error again.
2 Timothy 2:15 is this:
Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth.
Its interesting that you fight for "the only one perfect Scripture translatio" and make so many mistakes quoting it
2 Timothy 2:15 is this:
Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth.
Its interesting that you fight for "the only one perfect Scripture translatio" and make so many mistakes quoting it
Oftentimes, the fictitious cry of a Bible critic is that the KJV is in error because it has been revised. Believe it or not, the fact is, KJV was not revised but edited. Actually, the real revision was made until 1881 by textual critics Westcott-Hort . The so called revisions are not actually revisions at all but editions due to “typo error”, spelling changes or standardization of spelling and punctuation marks, orthography as well as abbreviation:
For example: “v” was changed to “u” ----- “vs” to “us”; “I” was changed to “J” -----“Iesus” to “Jesus”; “&” was changed to “and”
Here is to demonstrate “edition” which basically does not change the real intent as against “revision” which changes the words either by addition or omission. Here are examples based on my posts.
Edition
Example 1: The problem in here below scriptures being quoted was 7 words merged into one. This of course is an honest typo error and can be edited without losing its value.
1 Timothy 6:12 Fightthegoodfightoffaith, lay hold on eternal life, whereunto thou art also called, and hast professed agood profession before many witnesses.
Edition# 1 (after edition, the flow follows)
1 Timothy 6:12 Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, whereunto thou art also called, and hast professed a good profession before many witnesses.
Example # 2. The problem occurs not with the scriptures itself being intended for my citation but the scriptural references. Scriptures is different from the scriptural references, so this is not a problem at all. Scriptures refers to the text and therefore no error at all but a mere error of reference chapter for the intended quotation.
2 Timothy 2:15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
Edition #2 (after the edition, the flow follows)
2 Timothy 3:15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
Revision:
2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
2 Timothy 2:15 Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth.
This is what revision is all about; it changes the text and it gives many views or interpretations that it is not in line with the text. The passage is about the workman unashamed rightly dividing the word of truth. In what way he can rightly divide the truth? It’s not presenting by “doing your best” to God as the revisionist wanted to imply but through a thorough “study” of God’s words. So the KJV is clear!
1 Timothy 3:16 KJV
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
Aleph translation (Codex Sinaiticus)
16 And confessedly great is the mystery of godliness: He who was manifested in flesh, was justified in spirit, seen by angels, preached among the Gentiles, believed on in the world, taken up in glory.
Codex Sinaiticus - See The Manuscript | 1 Timothy |
Aleph
16 και ομολογουμενωϲ μεγα εϲτιν το τηϲ ευϲεβειαϲ μυϲτηριον οϲ εφανερωθη εν ϲαρκι · εδικαιωθη εν πνιωφθη αγγελοιϲ εκηρυχθη εν εθνεϲιν επιϲτευθη ε ν κοϲμω · ανελημφθη εν δοξη
TR
καὶ ὁμολογουμένως μέγα ἐστὶν τὸ τῆς εὐσεβείας μυστήριον Θεὸςἐφανερώθη ἐν σαρκί ἐδικαιώθη ἐν πνεύματι ὤφθη ἀγγέλοις ἐκηρύχθη ἐνἔθνεσιν ἐπιστεύθη ἐν κόσμῳ ἀνελήφθη ἐν δόξῃ
So, just by observation, this changes everything Θ compared to ο
Accordingly, it is reported that “Sinaiticus is one of the most-corrected manuscripts of all time. Tischendorf counted 14,800 corrections in what was then the Saint Petersburg portion alone!”
NT Manuscripts - Uncials
For example: “v” was changed to “u” ----- “vs” to “us”; “I” was changed to “J” -----“Iesus” to “Jesus”; “&” was changed to “and”
Here is to demonstrate “edition” which basically does not change the real intent as against “revision” which changes the words either by addition or omission. Here are examples based on my posts.
Edition
Example 1: The problem in here below scriptures being quoted was 7 words merged into one. This of course is an honest typo error and can be edited without losing its value.
1 Timothy 6:12 Fightthegoodfightoffaith, lay hold on eternal life, whereunto thou art also called, and hast professed agood profession before many witnesses.
Edition# 1 (after edition, the flow follows)
1 Timothy 6:12 Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, whereunto thou art also called, and hast professed a good profession before many witnesses.
Example # 2. The problem occurs not with the scriptures itself being intended for my citation but the scriptural references. Scriptures is different from the scriptural references, so this is not a problem at all. Scriptures refers to the text and therefore no error at all but a mere error of reference chapter for the intended quotation.
2 Timothy 2:15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
Edition #2 (after the edition, the flow follows)
2 Timothy 3:15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
Revision:
2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
2 Timothy 2:15 Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth.
This is what revision is all about; it changes the text and it gives many views or interpretations that it is not in line with the text. The passage is about the workman unashamed rightly dividing the word of truth. In what way he can rightly divide the truth? It’s not presenting by “doing your best” to God as the revisionist wanted to imply but through a thorough “study” of God’s words. So the KJV is clear!
1 Timothy 3:16 KJV
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
Aleph translation (Codex Sinaiticus)
16 And confessedly great is the mystery of godliness: He who was manifested in flesh, was justified in spirit, seen by angels, preached among the Gentiles, believed on in the world, taken up in glory.
Codex Sinaiticus - See The Manuscript | 1 Timothy |
Aleph
16 και ομολογουμενωϲ μεγα εϲτιν το τηϲ ευϲεβειαϲ μυϲτηριον οϲ εφανερωθη εν ϲαρκι · εδικαιωθη εν πνιωφθη αγγελοιϲ εκηρυχθη εν εθνεϲιν επιϲτευθη ε ν κοϲμω · ανελημφθη εν δοξη
TR
καὶ ὁμολογουμένως μέγα ἐστὶν τὸ τῆς εὐσεβείας μυστήριον Θεὸςἐφανερώθη ἐν σαρκί ἐδικαιώθη ἐν πνεύματι ὤφθη ἀγγέλοις ἐκηρύχθη ἐνἔθνεσιν ἐπιστεύθη ἐν κόσμῳ ἀνελήφθη ἐν δόξῃ
So, just by observation, this changes everything Θ compared to ο
Accordingly, it is reported that “Sinaiticus is one of the most-corrected manuscripts of all time. Tischendorf counted 14,800 corrections in what was then the Saint Petersburg portion alone!”
NT Manuscripts - Uncials
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King James Version is the most accurate translation, although some find it harder to read. I have used various Bible versions, but they offered a watered-down and sometimes outright altered rendering.
My personal testimony is that the Holy Spirit accompanies the KJV. Why I believe that is because I have gained insights with the KJV only. It has a mind-boggling harmony that is evident proof, least to my mind, of its translation.
My personal testimony is that the Holy Spirit accompanies the KJV. Why I believe that is because I have gained insights with the KJV only. It has a mind-boggling harmony that is evident proof, least to my mind, of its translation.
With Chinese whispers, is it more accurate at the beginning or the end of the process?
A little change here and a little change there, and with the interpretation of man slowly being accepted as correct do we trust it.
I believe that all bibles can lead to salvation.
But different translations are are teaching different things, so what is truth? They may be small differences but thats how the devil works.
It isn't so much your bible but your denomination or your fundamental beliefs that will make the difference.
A little change here and a little change there, and with the interpretation of man slowly being accepted as correct do we trust it.
I believe that all bibles can lead to salvation.
But different translations are are teaching different things, so what is truth? They may be small differences but thats how the devil works.
It isn't so much your bible but your denomination or your fundamental beliefs that will make the difference.
Will someone who claims the KJV is the only "God authorized" Bible please answer the above questions?
I have raised these questions for years and have never heard a relevant answer. Without intelligent rational solutions to these questions, claiming the KJV is the version that best communicates God's Word (salvation exclusively through belief in the death, burial and resurrection of God's one and only human born Son, Messiah Jesus) makes as much sense to me as claiming the earth is flat.
FWIW, the world was proven to be a sphere centuries before Jesus' time. One might therefore conjecture that Jesus Himself knew the world was a sphere. (Would flat earthers argue that Jesus taught differently?)
Do "KJV onliests" claim that Jesus spoke in KJV British english? If He didn't teach in KJV British english when He was here, why do they believe he only speaks in KJV British english today?
Indeed, why don't "KJV onliests" exclusively speak in KJV British english when ever they try to communicate something spiritual? If they don't exclusively use 500 year old British english when they try to communicate the truths of God, how can they demand that God do so?
I promise you, neither Jesus, nor the apostles, nor any other person ever spoke King James British English for the first thousand years of the Christian church. Does that mean they did not preach the Word of God?
Or might it mean that those who maintain that the KJV is God's only authorized version are under a satanic deception to split the church and argue nonsense instead of exploring and explaining what God's Word truly is? (I.E., salvation exclusively through belief in the death, burial and resurrection of God's one and only human born Son, Messiah Jesus.)
In light of the fact that King James was himself a Freemason, and that the KJV is one of the center pieces of a Freemason altar, I can't help but wonder if this might be the case.
Claiming that the British of 500 years ago were the only ones who can have correctly translated the Bible over the last 500 years seems to me to be rather ethnocentric, at the least.
In its original autographs (Hebrew and Greek) the word of God is without error. Paraphrases represent the private interpretations of men; every man has their own opinion like finger prints a little different then the other. Our agreement is not with each other. The word of God is God’s interpretation to men .There can be errors as differences of opinion in any paraphrase.
God never promised to preserve His words in every language. The promise was to preserve His words. If we had the original writings of the Scripture what would we people do who did not speak Hebrew and Greek? That argument is not valid.
English speaking children? The KJV, God's preserved words. We can tell the stories of the Bible early on to get our children familiar with God's word. I wouldn't consider these stories to be God's Holy preserved words. Timothy knew the Scriptures from a child. If a child grows up reading and studying the KJV, he or she will have no problem with its' so called archaic language. Instead, many children grow up listening to Spongebob and other voices and not God's voice.
Anyone of a low IQ can get saved. The salvation message is simple. The preaching of the cross is what saves a man, not understanding all the words of the Bible. Again, what would happen with that man of a low IQ if we had the "originals"? Would that man be able to read the originals? That argument is not valid.
English speaking children? The KJV, God's preserved words. We can tell the stories of the Bible early on to get our children familiar with God's word. I wouldn't consider these stories to be God's Holy preserved words. Timothy knew the Scriptures from a child. If a child grows up reading and studying the KJV, he or she will have no problem with its' so called archaic language. Instead, many children grow up listening to Spongebob and other voices and not God's voice.
Anyone of a low IQ can get saved. The salvation message is simple. The preaching of the cross is what saves a man, not understanding all the words of the Bible. Again, what would happen with that man of a low IQ if we had the "originals"? Would that man be able to read the originals? That argument is not valid.
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NIV is a good translation while Life Application series is a good series of Bible study materials.
God left us with 2 independent sources for the purpose of reconciliation that not only we can figure out the sound doctrine by cross referencing both, but also we can tell that the same message of salvation conveying today is the same message conveyed some 2000 years ago.
OT is reconcilable because we have a whole Essene library of scrolls (Dead Sea Scrolls) for us to tell that the same OT we have today is the same OT the Jews read some 2000 years ago.
As for NT, nothing remains original however God left us with 2 independent sources to make His Bible reconcilable. NIV is based off 2 artifacts found in Egypt which can be dated back to 4th century though they are supposed to be the copies of copies. KJV is based off a copy conserved by a church in Greece with supporting ancient scrolls dated back as early as 6~7th century. They are theologically identical unless you try to read the contents out of context.
We cannot say for sure how original the KJV is. You may say that it has less suspected errors as it is a version going all along us with Christians upkeep all the times.
No any other human books can be reconciled this way for humans to tell that the contents we read today are the same contents humans read 2000 years ago, theologically speaking.
Only a true God will make it so such that it can be witnessed that He's conveying His message today as He did to humans ever since the New Covenant was effective.
God left us with 2 independent sources for the purpose of reconciliation that not only we can figure out the sound doctrine by cross referencing both, but also we can tell that the same message of salvation conveying today is the same message conveyed some 2000 years ago.
OT is reconcilable because we have a whole Essene library of scrolls (Dead Sea Scrolls) for us to tell that the same OT we have today is the same OT the Jews read some 2000 years ago.
As for NT, nothing remains original however God left us with 2 independent sources to make His Bible reconcilable. NIV is based off 2 artifacts found in Egypt which can be dated back to 4th century though they are supposed to be the copies of copies. KJV is based off a copy conserved by a church in Greece with supporting ancient scrolls dated back as early as 6~7th century. They are theologically identical unless you try to read the contents out of context.
We cannot say for sure how original the KJV is. You may say that it has less suspected errors as it is a version going all along us with Christians upkeep all the times.
No any other human books can be reconciled this way for humans to tell that the contents we read today are the same contents humans read 2000 years ago, theologically speaking.
Only a true God will make it so such that it can be witnessed that He's conveying His message today as He did to humans ever since the New Covenant was effective.
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