Which is Biblical 7th Day

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Grandpa

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I see you point that you have chosen, bible tells us that we were created in image of God, but after sin took over i dont believe we can be perfect like our father (God) So whatever Mathew wrote he can not override Jesus when he said the one that say is without sin is a liar, this is direct words of Jesus
So what conclusions can you draw from the fact you have shown and the facts I have provided with scripture????
 

ZNP

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Which day did God designate to be 7th and holy?
The first day of the month is when you see the first crescent moon as the new moon. That is the first day of the month, the first quarter moon will be the 7th, the full moon will be the 14th, seven days later will be the 21st and the New moon festival will be 2-3 days depending because a lunar cycle is 29.5 days
 

Blik

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Feasts and Holy 7th day are different, are 10 commandments relevant or not?
I think deciding what is God's way regarding feasts and seventh day relate.

The OT gives scripture under the law of Moses, using earthly symbols to explain spiritual. The NT is under Christ, showing us how to obey these same laws of the Lord in the spirit, with the holy spirit to help us. It wipes out many physical acts that were only symbols, for Christ is the reality of them, but Christ did not change any of the true law of the Lord, only the symbol.

I don't think that the day that the Lord blessed can be changed. We cannot change anything of God, we would have to take away the blessing God gave that day.
 
I think deciding what is God's way regarding feasts and seventh day relate.

The OT gives scripture under the law of Moses, using earthly symbols to explain spiritual. The NT is under Christ, showing us how to obey these same laws of the Lord in the spirit, with the holy spirit to help us. It wipes out many physical acts that were only symbols, for Christ is the reality of them, but Christ did not change any of the true law of the Lord, only the symbol.

I don't think that the day that the Lord blessed can be changed. We cannot change anything of God, we would have to take away the blessing God gave that day.
I agree that we can not change anything, Jesus also said he did not come to change the law but fulfill it or obey it
 

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I agree that we can not change anything, Jesus also said he did not come to change the law but fulfill it or obey it
Ok, don't change anything, But "Rightly Divide" Everything, Correct?:

see "Sabbath Commanded," Rightly Divided From "Sabbath Concluded"
this link, point # 3: Bible Contrasts II

Amen?

Grace, Peace, And JOY In Christ And His Word Of Truth, Rightly
Divided!

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TMS

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The first day of the month is when you see the first crescent moon as the new moon. That is the first day of the month, the first quarter moon will be the 7th, the full moon will be the 14th, seven days later will be the 21st and the New moon festival will be 2-3 days depending because a lunar cycle is 29.5 days
There is nothing in Nature that works in a 7 day cycles. Why do we have a 7 day week? A Year is the time it takes to move around the sun. The only place a week is found is creation. God rested on the seventh day and we know from the things in the past which day that is.
Jesus obeyed the law perfectly, and if the Sabbath was changed to another day, Jesus would have known and made it clear.

If a will is changed it must be done before the person dies. Jesus set up the foot washing with the wine and bread before He died.
If He was going to set up a new sabbath, He would have made it clear before He died.
 

ZNP

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There is nothing in Nature that works in a 7 day cycles. Why do we have a 7 day week? A Year is the time it takes to move around the sun. The only place a week is found is creation. God rested on the seventh day and we know from the things in the past which day that is.
Jesus obeyed the law perfectly, and if the Sabbath was changed to another day, Jesus would have known and made it clear.

If a will is changed it must be done before the person dies. Jesus set up the foot washing with the wine and bread before He died.
If He was going to set up a new sabbath, He would have made it clear before He died.
Passover is the 14th. They have to kill the Passover at Sundown when Passover begins, that is when Jesus gave up the Spirit.

The 14th is by definition the "Passover Sabbath" and of course is the second sabbath of that month. Jesus spent the entire sabbath in the grave and that was the fulfillment of the Sabbath rest.

He rose on the 8th day. That is the Lord's day. It is the day of new beginnings, the day of the new creation. I celebrate the Lord's day because that is the day the Lord rose from the grave and it is the day that I was made a new creation.

(BTW Saturday is not "the sabbath day" it is completely unrelated to the lunar cycle and the name means Satan's day)
 

gb9

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There is nothing in Nature that works in a 7 day cycles. Why do we have a 7 day week? A Year is the time it takes to move around the sun. The only place a week is found is creation. God rested on the seventh day and we know from the things in the past which day that is.
Jesus obeyed the law perfectly, and if the Sabbath was changed to another day, Jesus would have known and made it clear.

If a will is changed it must be done before the person dies. Jesus set up the foot washing with the wine and bread before He died.
If He was going to set up a new sabbath, He would have made it clear before He died.
gentiles were and are under the Law. and therefore were never commanded to keep the Sabbath.

i will keep repeating that truth as long as you spread the falsehood that modern Christ followers must keep the jewish Sabbath to be right with God,
 

ZNP

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gentiles were and are under the Law. and therefore were never commanded to keep the Sabbath.

i will keep repeating that truth as long as you spread the falsehood that modern Christ followers must keep the jewish Sabbath to be right with God,
I didn't know there was anyone who still kept the sabbath. Must be difficult to run a business when it is so contrary to the world's calendar.

Now I know that some keep the phony sabbath, "Saturday" or Satan's day and then preach to everyone else that they are wrong, which would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad.
 

Cameron143

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Passover is the 14th. They have to kill the Passover at Sundown when Passover begins, that is when Jesus gave up the Spirit.

The 14th is by definition the "Passover Sabbath" and of course is the second sabbath of that month. Jesus spent the entire sabbath in the grave and that was the fulfillment of the Sabbath rest.

He rose on the 8th day. That is the Lord's day. It is the day of new beginnings, the day of the new creation. I celebrate the Lord's day because that is the day the Lord rose from the grave and it is the day that I was made a new creation.

(BTW Saturday is not "the sabbath day" it is completely unrelated to the lunar cycle and the name means Satan's day)
It is also the day that Jesus sat down and rested from His work in the new creation.
 

Magenta

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There is nothing in Nature that works in a 7 day cycles. Why do we have a 7 day week? A Year is the time it takes to move around the sun. The only place a week is found is creation. God rested on the seventh day and we know from the things in the past which day that is.
Jesus obeyed the law perfectly, and if the Sabbath was changed to another day, Jesus would have known and made it clear.

If a will is changed it must be done before the person dies. Jesus set up the foot washing with the wine and bread before He died.
If He was going to set up a new sabbath, He would have made it clear before He died.
Jesus said nothing about keeping the Sabbath, not even when He listed the commandments.

Jesus worked on the Sabbath and said God works on the Sabbath.


When was worship commanded for Sabbaths?
 

TMS

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When was worship commanded for Sabbaths?
Many times throughout the Bible.
Worship is a personal thing that you can do any time. We should worship God every day of the week.
The issue is obediance.
God said "remember the sabbath to keep it Holy". If you say, "no, I'm going to forget that day and keep another", that would be disrespectful, disobedient and the opposite of worship.

Jos 24:14 Now therefore fear the LORD, and serve him in sincerity and in truth: and put away the gods which your fathers served on the other side of the flood, and in Egypt; and serve ye the LORD. 15 And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.

.1Ki 18:17 And it came to pass, when Ahab saw Elijah, that Ahab said unto him, Art thou he that troubleth Israel? 18 And he answered, I have not troubled Israel; but thou, and thy father's house, in that ye have forsaken the commandments of the LORD, and thou hast followed Baalim....21 And Elijah came unto all the people, and said, How long halt ye between two opinions? if the LORD be God, follow him: but if Baal, then follow him. And the people answered him not a word.

Not keeping Sabbath was a law introduced in the dark ages and keeping Sunday was a tradition of the dark ages. (See post 62)

Gods commandments have not changed.
1Jn 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.