Who are the NEPHILIM in Genesis 6
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I am sure that you are trying to support your agenda of Demons being the Sons of God in Gebesis 6 to the extreme of even changing the meaning of words.
But your opinion is not actually correct.
Giborim is used to mean "strong" or "mighty ones", which appears to suggest a kinship with the Greek Titans, and also a similarity to the role of the Elim, Anakim and Nephilim of aboriginal times; however, the various usages of the word in the Tanach turn out to be slightly less than this: mere human heroes.
Genesis 10:9 uses Gibor/גבור) in the singular for Nimrod, "a mighty hunter".
Psalms 33:16 and 45:4 have Melech Gibor (מלך גבור) = "a mighty king", presumably the equivalent of our describing a monarch as "the Great". King Eshmun-Azar of Tsur (Tyre), the man who helped Shelomoh build the First Temple, is remembered as "Hiram of Tyre", which elsewhere is "Huram of Tyre"; Hu-Ram likewise means "He is Great".
Daniel 11:3 has El Gibor (אל גבור), which is somewhat more interesting in the light of the aboriginal meaning of the term. It seems to mean "god", because of the use of the word El (אל); however El means "a force" or "power" before it comes to mean a god, and here it requires interpreting as "a mighty hero".
Genesis 6:4 is more specific in calling the Giborim "the mighty heroes of old".
They are linked with the Anakim (ענקים) of Chevron in that both are treated as aboriginal inhabitants of Kena'an (Canaan), and both are seen - as are the Nephilim (נפילים), who make up the third group of this type - as being of enormous size.
2 Samuel 23:9 has Giborim for the group of "heroes" who were either King David's bodyguard, or his elite fighting force.
There is also the singular GEVER, which is used as an alternative to ISH and BEN ADAM to simply mean "a man" - though in modern Ivrit it tends to have the rather more colloquial intent of the English "bloke". Odd this, because in the Tanach it is almost exclusively used in poetry (Psalm 34:9, 52:9, 88:5; Job 3:3 et al). The feminine, GIVERET, was used to mean a lady, in the aristocratic sense, and like the English "mistress" which became shortened to Mrs, Miss and Ms, so Giveret today is the wife of Mr.
It is possible that the root was the Chaldean GEVAR, which is found in the Book of Daniel (2:25, 5:11).
There is also a town, GIBAR (גִבָּ֖ר), mentioned in Ezra 2:20.
Finally there is the angel Gabriel, or Gavri-El, which likewise occurs in Daniel (8:16, 9:21) and in Luke 1:19. Note that Daniel 8:16 also has the word ADAM for "man", making a clear distinction; though GAVRI-EL still means "man of El".
Source: TheBibleNet: Giborim
But your opinion is not actually correct.
Giborim is used to mean "strong" or "mighty ones", which appears to suggest a kinship with the Greek Titans, and also a similarity to the role of the Elim, Anakim and Nephilim of aboriginal times; however, the various usages of the word in the Tanach turn out to be slightly less than this: mere human heroes.
Genesis 10:9 uses Gibor/גבור) in the singular for Nimrod, "a mighty hunter".
Psalms 33:16 and 45:4 have Melech Gibor (מלך גבור) = "a mighty king", presumably the equivalent of our describing a monarch as "the Great". King Eshmun-Azar of Tsur (Tyre), the man who helped Shelomoh build the First Temple, is remembered as "Hiram of Tyre", which elsewhere is "Huram of Tyre"; Hu-Ram likewise means "He is Great".
Daniel 11:3 has El Gibor (אל גבור), which is somewhat more interesting in the light of the aboriginal meaning of the term. It seems to mean "god", because of the use of the word El (אל); however El means "a force" or "power" before it comes to mean a god, and here it requires interpreting as "a mighty hero".
Genesis 6:4 is more specific in calling the Giborim "the mighty heroes of old".
They are linked with the Anakim (ענקים) of Chevron in that both are treated as aboriginal inhabitants of Kena'an (Canaan), and both are seen - as are the Nephilim (נפילים), who make up the third group of this type - as being of enormous size.
2 Samuel 23:9 has Giborim for the group of "heroes" who were either King David's bodyguard, or his elite fighting force.
There is also the singular GEVER, which is used as an alternative to ISH and BEN ADAM to simply mean "a man" - though in modern Ivrit it tends to have the rather more colloquial intent of the English "bloke". Odd this, because in the Tanach it is almost exclusively used in poetry (Psalm 34:9, 52:9, 88:5; Job 3:3 et al). The feminine, GIVERET, was used to mean a lady, in the aristocratic sense, and like the English "mistress" which became shortened to Mrs, Miss and Ms, so Giveret today is the wife of Mr.
It is possible that the root was the Chaldean GEVAR, which is found in the Book of Daniel (2:25, 5:11).
There is also a town, GIBAR (גִבָּ֖ר), mentioned in Ezra 2:20.
Finally there is the angel Gabriel, or Gavri-El, which likewise occurs in Daniel (8:16, 9:21) and in Luke 1:19. Note that Daniel 8:16 also has the word ADAM for "man", making a clear distinction; though GAVRI-EL still means "man of El".
Source: TheBibleNet: Giborim
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David Prashker(TheBibleNet) who posted the article you referenced may not be a good choice for these things.... https://www.cjnews.com/news/international/educator-pleads-guilty-child-porn-charge https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2016/02/22/east-bay-teacher-arrested-on-child-porn-charges/
Your surety has been misplaced. I have not said this, nor do I believe this.
I have little interest in the Hebrew word "giborim" (and its variations). It is comparatively insignificant to the doctrinal integrity of the points I have made. You originally responded to my post (post #356). How is this relevant to my post, and what is the point you are trying to make?
I have little interest in the Hebrew word "giborim" (and its variations). It is comparatively insignificant to the doctrinal integrity of the points I have made. You originally responded to my post (post #356). How is this relevant to my post, and what is the point you are trying to make?
Yes I do understandwhat you just said. You think that because you have been here a long time you are better/more knowledgable than anyone else.
You are saying that your length of time here allows you to treat others in a sarcastic, un-civil and un-Christian manner!
What a testimony to have much less make public!!!!!
You are saying that your length of time here allows you to treat others in a sarcastic, un-civil and un-Christian manner!
What a testimony to have much less make public!!!!!