Who are those outside the city in Revelation 22?

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Sipsey

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If Heaven is “Up” and we can’t see it, then maybe Sheol is down, and likewise unseen.
 
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KnowMe

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Good day KnowMe,

Consider this, I have given you all of the scriptures which refer to Sheol/Hades as "going down." Therefore, its location would have to be under the earth, for everything else would be "UP"

Consider also the location of the Abyss, which is also under the earth. In support of this, a star/angel having the key to the Abyss opens it and smoke rises out of the shaft of the Abyss. And out of the smoke, demonic beings resembling locusts come up out of the Abyss.
Thanks ahwatukee

indeed I’ve considered the under the earth and that sounds a bit more logical to me, under rather than in.
the abyss somewhere under the earth in the darkness of the space under the earth.
 

Ahwatukee

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Thanks ahwatukee

indeed I’ve considered the under the earth and that sounds a bit more logical to me, under rather than in.
the abyss somewhere under the earth in the darkness of the space under the earth.
You're very welcome! Just to give you a little more information regarding the subject of Hell (Sheol/Hades) being located under the earth, here are some other scriptures to consider:

"Therefore God exalted Him to the highest place and gave Him the name above all names,
that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father." - Philippians 2:9-11

"And I saw a mighty angel proclaiming in a loud voice, “Who is worthy to break the seals and open the scroll?”
But no one in heaven or on earth or under the earth was able to open the scroll or look inside it." - Revelation 5:3

"And I heard every creature in heaven, and on earth, and under the earth, and in the sea, and all that is in them, saying:
“To Him who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb, be praise and honor and glory and power forever and ever!” - Revelation 5:13
 
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KnowMe

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You're very welcome! Just to give you a little more information regarding the subject of Hell (Sheol/Hades) being located under the earth, here are some other scriptures to consider:

"Therefore God exalted Him to the highest place and gave Him the name above all names,
that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father." - Philippians 2:9-11

"And I saw a mighty angel proclaiming in a loud voice, “Who is worthy to break the seals and open the scroll?”
But no one in heaven or on earth or under the earth was able to open the scroll or look inside it." - Revelation 5:3

"And I heard every creature in heaven, and on earth, and under the earth, and in the sea, and all that is in them, saying:
“To Him who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb, be praise and honor and glory and power forever and ever!” - Revelation 5:13
that speaks volume my friend.
 

VCO

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#45
You're very welcome! Just to give you a little more information regarding the subject of Hell (Sheol/Hades) being located under the earth, here are some other scriptures to consider:

"Therefore God exalted Him to the highest place and gave Him the name above all names,
that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father." - Philippians 2:9-11

"And I saw a mighty angel proclaiming in a loud voice, “Who is worthy to break the seals and open the scroll?”
But no one in heaven or on earth or under the earth was able to open the scroll or look inside it." - Revelation 5:3

"And I heard every creature in heaven, and on earth, and under the earth, and in the sea, and all that is in them, saying:
“To Him who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb, be praise and honor and glory and power forever and ever!” - Revelation 5:13

I have a question about the GREEK Language, and I apologize that this is a little off subject.

A couple days ago I watched a documentary, that showed this Mosaic Floor, from the FIRST CENTURY, that Inscription on it proclaimed that 'THE GOD JESUS".

I also found it on this website the EXACT Mosaic FLOOR inscription, proclaiming that JESUS IS GOD. They were building an expansion

at an Israeli prison in Megiddo, when in 2005 the inmates unearthed this mosaic floor.


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https://kehilanews.com/2018/03/25/ancient-mosaic-in-israel-describes-jesus-as-god/

Could someone who reads GREEK tell me what the rest of the line that starts with SAN, actually says in the GREEK. The tour guide said identifies the "GOD JESUS", it would be very interesting. It would be VERY USEFUL, because like when we had psuedo christian and that guy TRIED TO TELL US THE LIE, over a year ago, that NO ONE in the First Century Church ever thought the Doctrine of the TRINITY. If I remember right, he even said the teaching of the Doctrine of the Trinity, did not come about until the THIRD CENTURY. Oh, I wish I had this INFO back when that guy was trying to proclaim the lie that the First Century Church did not Teach that JESUS WAS GOD.

MORE PICTURES of the MOSAIC FLOORING in the Prison, near Megiddo:












The stones near the center of this picture, was the low pedestal for the table, where the Congregation
would have reclined on Cushions to celebrate COMMUNION.




 

VCO

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I can see how in the above example, they got GOD in the first word θεός transliterated is Theos, so it is possible that θW could possibly be a derivative of θεός.

What I am not Seeing is how they got JESUS out of IYXW in the GREEK, when it should be Ἰησοῦς according to Strong's Talking Greek & Hebrew Dictionary ? ? ?

UNLESS the Tour Guide was pointing to the wrong line ?
 
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Good day KnowMe,

Consider this, I have given you all of the scriptures which refer to Sheol/Hades as "going down." Therefore, its location would have to be under the earth, for everything else would be "UP"

Consider also the location of the Abyss, which is also under the earth. In support of this, a star/angel having the key to the Abyss opens it and smoke rises out of the shaft of the Abyss. And out of the smoke, demonic beings resembling locusts come up out of the Abyss.

Hell is simply defined as the "living suffering" of this world without Christ in this world. The wrath of God in respect to a corrupted creation is being revealed daily. He is our sabbath rest. There will be no demonic resembling locusts come up out of the Abyss. Demons have no form they are lying spirits .
 

VCO

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Here is why I say I can see how the word for GOD, could be a different synonym with a different spelling.
θεῷ - that is translated GOD from an Interlinear New Testament (Greek and English), Jude 1:1.
God


I have Not found the Spelling of JESUS = IYXW yet, but I am searching.