Who is a Jew?

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You have no proof. Scripture does not support your claim, It is all in your head supported by your bias and nothing more, and certainly not something, on which to base doctrine. You failed. Now accept your failure with grace and learn from it.
the Book of Enoch is not in the Canon but still Jesus, Paul, Peter, Jude, and John quote it.

The Temple was in full service during the life of Christ and we know the System God set-up. so it was happening. you know it but it makes you wrong by having to accept it. so you rather call God a LIAR than accept fact!
 
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but, as long as there was a High Priest entering the Holy of Holies and returned ALL of Israel's sins were forgiven. so all during the life of Christ the Jews sins were forgiven,
What your forgetting here friend is what john the baptist said...behold the lamb that takes away the sins of the world.
The early sacraficial offerings only covered over the sins they did not take them away.
Jesus is the one and only sacrafice that takes away the sins.
Hope this helps.
Theres alot more to this but ill end it here for now.
 
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What your forgetting here friend is what john the baptist...behold the lamb that takes away the sins of the world.
The early sacraficial offerings only covered over the sins they did not take them away.
Jesus is the one and only sacrafice that takes away the sins.
Hope this helps.
Theres alot more to this but ill end it here for now.
not the issue we are discussing.
why add something not relative?

Moses and the Prophets all were Saved by sacrificing through the Temple but yes, Jesus took their sins away. the current Jews of Jesus day would be no different.
 
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the Book of Enoch is not in the Canon but still Jesus, Paul, Peter, Jude, and John quote it.

The Temple was in full service during the life of Christ and we know the System God set-up. so it was happening. you know it but it makes you wrong by having to accept it. so you rather call God a LIAR than accept fact!
No scholar accepts the book of Enoch as inspired by God, and certainly not worthy of basing doctrine on it. Unacceptable! Not valid proof.
 
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you like to dance as well!

i will ask you this question also:

every time a High Priest or Levitical Priest has died it's been listed.

so, either [show me where ONE HIGH PRIEST DIED after entering the Holy of Holies during the life of Christ?]

and if you cannot, then the Jews were Saved during the time of Christ.
There is one high priest that did die...jesus.
Being the high priest he offered himself a sacrifice.
 
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No scholar accepts the book of Enoch as inspired by God, and certainly not worthy of basing doctrine on it. Unacceptable! Not valid proof.
who is a scholar's opinion when Jesus is God and quotes it?

you are the same cloth as Anderson.
 
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not the issue we are discussing.
why add something not relative?

Moses and the Prophets all were Saved by sacrificing through the Temple but yes, Jesus took their sins away. the current Jews of Jesus' day would be no different.
On the contrary, it is essential to this topic pertaining to the view of some in regards to Romans 11, but at present, we are discussing your saved priest prior to Hesus, which does not exist.
 
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On the contrary, it is essential to this topic pertaining to the view of some in regards to Romans 11, but at present, we are discussing your saved priest prior to Hesus, which does not exist.
you have circular reasoning. you would be tossed out of litigation the moment you offered anything up.
 
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Many will become forgiven because many will come to the light.
They who reject Jesus will no longer be counted as under Israel or the Church. We also know that ALL the Church shall be saved.
All Israel Will Be Saved
25 I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers and sisters, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in, 26 and in this way[e] all Israel will be saved. As it is written:

“The deliverer will come from Zion;
he will turn godlessness away from Jacob.
27 And this is[f] my covenant with them
when I take away their sins
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10 “And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit[a] of grace and supplication. They will look on[b] me, the one they have pierced, and they will mourn for him as one mourns for an only child, and grieve bitterly for him as one grieves for a firstborn son. 11 On that day the weeping in Jerusalem will be as great as the weeping of Hadad Rimmon in the plain of Megiddo.

Blinded for a time, then their eyes will be opened and the will grieve when they recognize the Messiah. And will be saved the same way anyone else is saved, through Christ.


Wrong.
We are saved by the blood of Jesus and nothing else. You were not saved by the wickedness of the Jews. You are way out in left field.
Please phone home.
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Of course you're saved by the blood. His point is why the Jews are the chosen people in the first place, to bring the Gospel to the world. The Gospel was to the Jew first. When they disobeyed God turned His attention to the Gentiles, for a time, Jews were blinded and we benefit because of that. That is what he is talking about.

Romans Just as you who were at one time disobedient to God have now received mercy as a result of their disobedience, 31 so they too have now become disobedient in order that they too may now[h] receive mercy as a result of God’s mercy to you. 32 For God has bound everyone over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all.


We receive mercy because of their disobedience and vice versa. That's what the Watcher meant in their post.
 
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not the issue we are discussing.
why add something not relative?

Moses and the Prophets all were Saved by sacrificing through the Temple but yes, Jesus took their sins away. the current Jews of Jesus day would be no different.
Absolutely wrong nothing but the blood of jesus saves.....if so God's a liar.
Moses and the prophets ( moses being a prophet himself) all had faith in a coming messiah they beleived the word of God as many others did.
Therefore just like abraham it was counted as righteousness but when they died they could not enter heaven for jesus had not come....hence abrahams bosom.

Told you there was more to it.
 
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the Book of Enoch is not in the Canon but still Jesus, Paul, Peter, Jude, and John quote it.

The Temple was in full service during the life of Christ and we know the System God set-up. so it was happening. you know it but it makes you wrong by having to accept it. so you rather call God a LIAR than accept fact!
That is not correct and you can not prove it. They quoted from the OT which bears resemblance to Book of Enoch but it has been reject as the source by all scholars.
 
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You just can't stop yourself. Again with attacks because you have no proof, you have no case, and you have lost and you don't want to accept it.
well, you are saying there was no Temple when Jesus lived, so there was no sacrifice happening, so there was no temporary salvation happening.

that's exactly what that false devil would say!