Who is Jesus?

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oyster67

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It is my understanding that Jesus is fully human and fully divine (FHaFD). It is also my understanding that Jesus has always existed and always will (saying anything to the contrary would have me kicked out of here for heresy). It is also my understanding that Adam was the first human.
Good point. Fully human does not necessarily mean they have mommies (Adam did not). Jesus did not manifest as human until after Adam. This did not, however, make Mary the mother of God. She was mother of only the human part of Jesus, which he took upon himself 2000 years ago. The first man was Adam (who was made by Jesus!). I suppose that if one were to say that Jesus has a human body now, it is a glorified one. FHaFD probably refers to the time Jesus spent on Earth?:unsure:
 

Blain

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Who is Jesus? This is a very deep and amazing question one that I desperately wish to know fully, I mean he was on earth for only three years we love him and follow him but do we really know him and can we really know him on this side of the spectrum? Believe me the depths of his personality his nature his way of seeing his way of thinking everything about him is far deeper than we can even imagine For those who hunger and long deeply to search his heart and dive into that vast ocean of his heart that endless sinking falling more and more love with him as you continue to sink into the depths of him this not merely a question it is an obsession
The desire that comes with such a question runs deep in those who are madly in love with even knowing what little we actually know of him

We ask a question like this all time even within our own minds but that horrible yet wonderful craving and hunger to know him to thirst and to long for him so deeply that it's like torture how many of us understand this when we ask ourselves this question? Yes we can talk about this in logic and in scripture but to truly know the answer to this question you will only find it when you know that exact same hunger and thirst so asking suching a question leaves one to cinsider what they are really asking and how badly do you want the answer?
 
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#46
Who is Jesus? This is a very deep and amazing question one that I desperately wish to know fully, I mean he was on earth for only three years we love him and follow him but do we really know him and can we really know him on this side of the spectrum? Believe me the depths of his personality his nature his way of seeing his way of thinking everything about him is far deeper than we can even imagine For those who hunger and long deeply to search his heart and dive into that vast ocean of his heart that endless sinking falling more and more love with him as you continue to sink into the depths of him this not merely a question it is an obsession
The desire that comes with such a question runs deep in those who are madly in love with even knowing what little we actually know of him

We ask a question like this all time even within our own minds but that horrible yet wonderful craving and hunger to know him to thirst and to long for him so deeply that it's like torture how many of us understand this when we ask ourselves this question? Yes we can talk about this in logic and in scripture but to truly know the answer to this question you will only find it when you know that exact same hunger and thirst so asking suching a question leaves one to cinsider what they are really asking and how badly do you want the answer?
that's 33 years, not 3.
3 years was His ministry time.
 

Blain

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that's 33 years, not 3.
3 years was His ministry time.
Yes he started his ministry at 30 and it ended at 33 there is a reason for that
 
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pottersclay

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Who is jesus you ask?

 

Adstar

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Isn't Lucifer the Morning Star?
Lucifer / satan is the son of the morning..

Isaiah 14: KJV
12 "How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!"

Jesus is the Bright and Morning Star..

Revelation 22: KJV
16 "I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star."
 

1ofthem

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You can believe me... I'm not afraid of anything here....I just thought it was pretty sad how you start a thread asking a question, and then threaten reporting others for giving their opinions. Why not stop all this drama, and go by his example and love one another and worship him not just in word but also in deed...I'm not just picking on you. I've just saw so much of this bickering and division lately. People calling people heretics and such, which is totally fruitless and doesn't help anyone to grow in the Lord. We all should be able to discuss the Word of the Lord without biting and devouring one another.

Anyways your thread title made me think of a song:
I did not make the rules. It is my understanding that particular 'heresies' are not tolerated on this site. Should I not report those whom break such rules? If you are not a heretic, you have nothing to fear.
 
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You can believe me... I'm not afraid of anything here....I just thought it was pretty sad how you start a thread asking a question, and then threaten reporting others for giving their opinions. Why not stop all this drama, and go by his example and love one another and worship him not just in word but also in deed...I'm not just picking on you. I've just saw so much of this bickering and division lately. People calling people heretics and such, which is totally fruitless and doesn't help anyone to grow in the Lord. We all should be able to discuss the Word of the Lord without biting and devouring one another.

Anyways your thread title made me think of a song:
This is CC. Read the guide on reporting users. It lists several heresies.
 
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He was the Son of God. The Trinity as defined by THE CHURCH, is a fallacy. Here is why. Read all of Paul's introductions. He always says God the Father & Lord Jesus Christ, never ever acknowledging the Holy spirit. The Father speaks to the Son & the Son speaks to the Father, never does either speak to, or get spoken to, by the Holy Spirit. Simply because it is not a PERSON of a Trinity, but the power of the Father & Son to deal with mankind. Simple. The CHURCH defines the Trinity as 3 PERSONS in 1 God. God & the Holy Spirit are not PERSONS. That definition brings God down to our level, which is blasphemy. Jesus/Yahshua was a PERSON & is now a Elohim/Spirit, sitting at the right hand, of his Father, on his throne, which he earned by his sacrifice!
 

Magenta

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Some people on this site really sadden me...Why all the arguing and reporting others?
Someone starts a thread asking a question, and then report others for giving their opinion. :rolleyes:
Revenge reporting... prolly cuz she became tired of having her own heresies pointed out to her :geek:
 

Nehemiah6

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It is my understanding that Jesus is fully human and fully divine (FHaFD). It is also my understanding that Jesus has always existed and always will (saying anything to the contrary would have me kicked out of here for heresy). It is also my understanding that Adam was the first human.
You've got it. It is surprising how many do not have these fundamentals firmly in their hearts and minds.
 

Nehemiah6

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The Word was with God. It doesn't mention Jesus in that passage.
Now how did you go off the rails? You said "Jesus is fully divine" which corresponds to "And the Word was God".
 

Magenta

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Now how did you go off the rails? You said "Jesus is fully divine" which corresponds to "And the Word was God".
She claimed the Word (Jesus) did not become flesh...
essentially denying Jesus is the Living Word of God.
Despite John 1:1-14 :oops: