Who will be taken and who will be left behind?

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Well I know a few that say they are watching for the blessed hope and are living like the devil
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I also know some, including myself, that do not believe in the pre-trib "rapture of the church" that are doing our best to live for our Lord and warn everyone they should prepare for the coming time of tribulation that Jesus says will come.
Well if you take a look at 1 Cor, aren't some of them living like the devil too? (1 Cor 5)

Yet, by the time he reaches 1 Cor 15, what he told them was this

51 Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed—
 
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Even if you don't believe in a "pre-wrath" rapture of the church you should still be looking for the coming of the Lord not the coming of the tribulation. The scriptures are abundant that tell us to be looking for his appearing, not looking for the antichrist, not looking for the tribulation, not looking for a third temple, Looking for his appearing. Don't get sidetracked with an interpretation of eschatology that has you looking for anything but His appearing.
THEY WILL BE LOST, IF THEY DON'T LET JESUS CONVERT THEM,
DOSE it SOUND LIKE THESE ARE LIVING LIKE A DEVIL, IF SO YOU ARE MISTAKEN .
Matthew 18:3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.
18:4 Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven.
IF you know you are sinning and GO AHEAD and SIN then the BIBLE says that you will be DESTROYED.
HEBREWS 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
10:27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
10:28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
10:29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
 
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Even if you don't believe in a "pre-wrath" rapture of the church you should still be looking for the coming of the Lord not the coming of the tribulation. The scriptures are abundant that tell us to be looking for his appearing, not looking for the antichrist, not looking for the tribulation, not looking for a third temple, Looking for his appearing. Don't get sidetracked with an interpretation of eschatology that has you looking for anything but His appearing.
THE BIBLE TEACHES ME TO PREPAIR FOR THE TRIIBULATIONS,AND THE MARK OF THE BEAST.
 
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THE BIBLE TEACHES ME TO PREPAIR FOR THE TRIIBULATIONS,AND THE MARK OF THE BEAST.
No it doesn't. You are making that assumption because it prophesies about them. You are assuming because they are mentioned it means they are mentioned so that you can prepare for them. But it does not tell you to prepare for them.
And what kind of preparation will you make?

The scriptures specifically tell you to look for and wait for the coming of the Lord.

Therefore, stay awake, for you do not know on what day your Lord is coming.
Therefore keep watch, because you do not know the day or the hour.
Therefore keep watch, because you do not know when the master of the house will return--whether in the evening, at midnight, when the rooster crows, or in the morning.
But watch yourselves, or your hearts will be weighed down by dissipation, drunkenness, and the worries of life--and that day will spring upon you suddenly like a snare.

Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness which the Lord, the righteous Judge, shall give me on that Day — and not to me only, but unto all those also who love His appearing.
Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, 12Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God
And on and on and on, so many more I could post that make it clear that we are looking for the coming of Christ and to be PREPARED means to be living a holy life to be found in him without spot, blameless and not ashamed at his coming. This is how you prepare.

Storing up dry goods or trying to figure out the technology behind the mark is not what he tells you to do to get ready.
The Day of his wrath will come, the antichrist will have his day, the mark will be only part of the horrors, nothing you do is going to keep it from coming. You can be saved from the wrath by being read for his appearing. That is what you are told to do, to live soberly, righteously, godly, without sin or compromise, without drunkeness and partying, so that day will not catch you unawares.
 
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Salvation can not be lost.
Only the lost will take the mark.
YOU are very mistaken, You can lose your Salvation, very Much SO, Jesus says HE that endures till the end, the SAME SHALL BE SAVED,
2 Peter 2:21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known [it], to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
2:22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog [is] turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.
YOU NEED to see that they where washed, And the only way that you can get washed from SIN ,IS BY THE BLOOD OF THE LAMB,
1 John 5:16 If any man see his brother sin a sin [which is] not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.
This also tells us if we see A brother sin that he will be lost if he dose not repent of the sins that he is committing.
Matthew 24:48 But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming;
24:49 And shall begin to smite [his] fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken;
24:50 The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for [him], and in an hour that he is not aware of,
24:51 And shall cut him asunder, and appoint [him] his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
THis also shows us that if we don't keep GOING we WILL LOSE OUR SALVATION.
GOD has cast Satan out of heaven for sinning, AND HE IS NOT GOING TO LET US IN HEAVEN IF WE continue in sin,
And this verse makes it very plain,
Hebrews 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
10:27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
10:28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
10:29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
 

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THE BIBLE tells US that THE LORD will SLAY THE WICKED BY THE BRIGHTNESS OF HIS COMING, JESUS tells US THAT THE TARES ARE GETHER FIRST, the tares are the LOST
Matthew 13:30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn. THE BIBLE DOSE NOT CONDERDICT IT'S SELF,
You do realize your using a verse that many pretrib believers use right? The interpretation from a pretrib point of view is that the wheat and the tares the Christian by heart and the Christian by title will grow together until the harvest the fake ones are hathered and burned the what is gathered and into his barn representing safe holding