Whose Opinions Can We Trust?

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Opinions are cheap and rampant, even I have opinions. When it comes to trust, the Word is exact on that. We are to only trust Yahweh, God. We are not to trust any man, not even ourselves.
The latter, for example, there will be times when we may lean toward a manner of thinking or resolving a specific question regarding truth. If what we tend toward does not coincide with what our Father teaches us, we go with His teaching. There have been times I was not certain on a subject, and He made it clear. I have never regretted His teaching.
In the end, only the Lord is perfect. I think he does have us learn from each other, sometimes. We certainly do spend enough time posting our opinions here, and hopefully there is some merit to it. It's just that I get a little exasperated with people who think obedience to the Lord is unimportant.
 
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In the end, only the Lord is perfect. I think he does have us learn from each other, sometimes. We certainly do spend enough time posting our opinions here, and hopefully there is some merit to it. It's just that I get a little exasperated with people who think obedience to the Lord is unimportant.
Obedience to the LORD is not difficult at all; Cleanse oneself daily in the Lords Prayer (the sinners prayer), Thanking the LORD for the provisions needed by every human being, food,water,shelter and clothing(without grumbling over whats provided)and help teach as many human beings, Israelites & Heathens as one can, to do the same.

Thank Him for the cleansing of the minor unavoidable sins @ this time, as its everywhere; and repent of any major sin that one may have come out of ones church/mouth, hurting one of His souls, as Our Father says that ALL souls belong to Him, that's the good & the bad.

For Our Father The LORD, promised, that IF anyone does this in and through His chosen one Christ/Messiah the Lord that He will be sure to provide a way.

I know that I come across to many on here as a rude person (or so it seems to me) but that is not my intent what so ever, and yes, I have been guilty a couple of times, but I do repent as this is a major sin, that a daily cleansing (sinners prayer) does not suffice; it rather needs to be confessed to Our Father in and through Christ, then one can be pardoned of it, thanks be to Christ/Messiah and the price that he paid for us on the cross.

I have said this many times, The Bible, no matter what language it is transliterated into, is only a textbook to the original, and rude is not what i'm intending to be, but rather to be meek; but to todays English Bible readers, the word meek has lost its meaning, as this comes across to them that we are to be mild mannered people, but when one does ones homework, and checks the Hebrew, they will find out that the Hebrew word used means to be bold & blunt, and that's about our certainty in reckognizing and speaking out about not just ones heritage of the inner-person, but the heritage of every single solitary human beings inner-person.

Ya, from time to time, though the more I grow , less and less, I do sin out of my church/mouth, and when I do, boy does my spirit feel vexed, as because that I have heard Our Father, I know that I cannot carry on for Him, until the sin is addressed, and not swept under the carpet.

Sincerity to Him is the #1 IF (or rule) lol
 
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Obedience to the LORD is not difficult at all; Cleanse oneself daily in the Lords Prayer (the sinners prayer), Thanking the LORD for the provisions needed by every human being, food,water,shelter and clothing(without grumbling over whats provided)and help teach as many human beings, Israelites & Heathens as one can, to do the same.

Thank Him for the cleansing of the minor unavoidable sins @ this time, as its everywhere; and repent of any major sin that one may have come out of ones church/mouth, hurting one of His souls, as Our Father says that ALL souls belong to Him, that's the good & the bad.

For Our Father The LORD, promised, that IF anyone does this in and through His chosen one Christ/Messiah the Lord that He will be sure to provide a way.

I know that I come across to many on here as a rude person (or so it seems to me) but that is not my intent what so ever, and yes, I have been guilty a couple of times, but I do repent as this is a major sin, that a daily cleansing (sinners prayer) does not suffice; it rather needs to be confessed to Our Father in and through Christ, then one can be pardoned of it, thanks be to Christ/Messiah and the price that he paid for us on the cross.

I have said this many times, The Bible, no matter what language it is transliterated into, is only a textbook to the original, and rude is not what i'm intending to be, but rather to be meek; but to todays English Bible readers, the word meek has lost its meaning, as this comes across to them that we are to be mild mannered people, but when one does ones homework, and checks the Hebrew, they will find out that the Hebrew word used means to be bold & blunt, and that's about our certainty in reckognizing and speaking out about not just ones heritage of the inner-person, but the heritage of every single solitary human beings inner-person.

Ya, from time to time, though the more I grow , less and less, I do sin out of my church/mouth, and when I do, boy does my spirit feel vexed, as because that I have heard Our Father, I know that I cannot carry on for Him, until the sin is addressed, and not swept under the carpet.

Sincerity to Him is the #1 IF (or rule) lol
Temptation to sin can be very powerful. I think some people believe if temptation is powerful enough, it is okay to sin. And then they say that their sin isn't really a sin.

Look at lust. Jesus makes it clear that we are to refrain from having sex until we marry. Many people go ahead and have sex before they marry, anyway, and then claim Jesus was wrong when he said we should wait, or they claim he was misquoted, even though we know the Bible is a faithful account of the events it documents.
 
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The point that I was trying to make was that people who make little effort to repent of their sin don't, in my opinion, have theological opinions worth listening to. However, it is true that none of us can be completely trusted, I suppose.
those who allways remember that there master will return,? "in the sense that you being a servant and christ being you master), god will know this by your fruits if you always keep this though in mind when decisions arise ie everyday life befor you act i feel that god can trust you.
trust you and trust is a nice thing but not be expected more to built upon and not forgotten.
fot the bad servant will forget and will make stupid decisions.

god can also see fit and trust within you to do his will which is protect the weak speak the truth and do no wrong
 
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those who allways remember that there master will return,? "in the sense that you being a servant and christ being you master), god will know this by your fruits if you always keep this though in mind when decisions arise ie everyday life befor you act i feel that god can trust you.
trust you and trust is a nice thing but not be expected more to built upon and not forgotten.
fot the bad servant will forget and will make stupid decisions.

god can also see fit and trust within you to do his will which is protect the weak speak the truth and do no wrong
The Lord knows our every thought and deed, of course.
 
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oh yeah you can count on that one you do have a membory bank unfornuntaely for some they carnt always access them and the message gets lost but the memories still remains and the message for me is sharing something in your faith to help those renew there trust in there walk with god like what i posted here earlier about the good servant bad servant it goes without saying that is the way the bible tels us to act.

and that is we are to put are trust in people because without trust there is no freedom and through jesus christ we are free.
if people abuse our trust we have entrusted amonst our fellow believers and our fellow friends then they have memory banks.
you know what im saying now.
when you go on holiday you trust your friends minding your house will not abuse your trust you have put in them.
and so should that though just be for one time of the year, you trust your wife will be faithful, you trust you family wil do well at school. you trust that god will keep your loved ones save when you not there.
if you act accordingly to the the good servant bad servant parrebell how can faith not be built up without trust.
we all have lines and if someone crosses them we tell them,"your overstepping the mark. we confront them and let them know exactly what has not sat right with you or i,"in the hope that our friendship can carry on is the first most thought to renew ones mind in trust , in the hope that your trust you have put in people the way you would like to be trusted is not broke again.
and so i feel the benefit of the doubt is first in new aquainitises like the the lord says if at first you dont succeed try again i am truly thankful for fellow ship friendship even if it is only one day a week or 1 hour.
talking to much about negative things like leaning on the though of not trusting i feel is wrong.
agreed where not all singing from the same hym book and your message could be diffrent to mine but that does not meen we should trust that you do not meen well,"does it.

so yes only trusting in the word of god from a holy biblical way for the the none believers we are to welcome those new to faith but not argue with there opinions, more encourage and show them the truth.
so we may not fully trust them to begin with but we have give them the benefit of the doubt as i said trust is something you build on like your faith.
 
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I guess I can't trust you.
I believe in the repentance of sin. When I resist temptation, life is very beautiful. When I don’t resist temptation, life is very scary. I hope you resist temptation.
 
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Opinions are cheap and rampant, even I have opinions. When it comes to trust, the Word is exact on that. We are to only trust Yahweh, God. We are not to trust any man, not even ourselves.
The latter, for example, there will be times when we may lean toward a manner of thinking or resolving a specific question regarding truth. If what we tend toward does not coincide with what our Father teaches us, we go with His teaching. There have been times I was not certain on a subject, and He made it clear. I have never regretted His teaching.
Not even to trust ourselves!! I think this is the heart of the matter. We are to listen to God always, and to grow in understanding. We can use what we knew, and how others understand, but always to put what men say, including ourselves, up to God as a basis for our growth.
 
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ok i get what this converation is about can i just ask a question does the verse in the bible we are not to trust any man not even ourselves, " does this also mean we are not to put our trust in people fullstop ? . because for me that is having a hardened heart .
for me personaly you can put your trust in peope but you do not have to fully trust that they are correct and this scriture means to be careful who you trust and put your trust in god first and formost.
 
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ok i get what this converation is about can i just ask a question does the verse in the bible we are not to trust any man not even ourselves, " does this also mean we are not to put our trust in people fullstop ? . because for me that is having a hardened heart .
for me personaly you can put your trust in peope but you do not have to fully trust that they are correct and this scriture means to be careful who you trust and put your trust in god first and formost.

What this brings to mind for me is that on important spiritual matters, we need to think things out ourselves, with the guidance of the Lord. We can’t blindly trust other people.

Many times I hear people say they believe things because that is what they were taught, but we can be taught incorrectly. Even pastors make mistakes. We need to read the Bible and pray to the Lord for guidance so that we understand the things we believe.

But to your point, people earn our trust, or fail to do so, over a period of time.
 
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no your correct you carnt blindly trust other people like you wouldnt put your in the hand in the fire if i told you too.

or like when your growing up you may trust your a friend who is sending you down the road to get some sky hooks, of course you know this not to be true now because there is no such thing as sky hooks," your friend was having a laugh, but you trusted him just the same. but afterwards did you fall out or did you renew your friendship once you knew the truth or did you make some other poor sucker fall for the same thing because you hated that joke or did you just tell that joke to some one else because you saw the funny side.

is that no the same as faith a new believer who has come from being told that jesus is not mesiah do you hate him or do you try to make him trust that what you are saying is true.
he does still not continue to trust in you after you told him the truth does that mean you become a hater and hate all unbelievers after that and not put your trust in them ever again, "i would hope not because if you did there is a good chance that some folk may never be saved,
 
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no your correct you carnt blindly trust other people like you wouldnt put your in the hand in the fire if i told you too.

or like when your growing up you may trust your a friend who is sending you down the road to get some sky hooks, of course you know this not to be true now because there is no such thing as sky hooks," your friend was having a laugh, but you trusted him just the same. but afterwards did you fall out or did you renew your friendship once you knew the truth or did you make some other poor sucker fall for the same thing because you hated that joke or did you just tell that joke to some one else because you saw the funny side.

is that no the same as faith a new believer who has come from being told that jesus is not mesiah do you hate him or do you try to make him trust that what you are saying is true.
he does still not continue to trust in you after you told him the truth does that mean you become a hater and hate all unbelievers after that and not put your trust in them ever again, "i would hope not because if you did there is a good chance that some folk may never be saved,
Jesus commanded us to love our neighbors as ourselves. That gives is a path to follow.
 
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ok well thanks for the message see yer next week ill trust that you keep that though in mind when i next post
 
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tararr moooooooooooooo :)
 
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I believe in the repentance of sin. When I resist temptation, life is very beautiful. When I don’t resist temptation, life is very scary. I hope you resist temptation.
Have you repented of your heresies?