WHY ARE PEOPLE WORSHIPING ON SUNDAY?

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zone

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No point I read your post and that was the first text that came to mind so I posted it
okay...fair enough.
do you believe when your body dies your soul will enter the Lord's presence?
or will you lie sleeping (unconscious) in the grave?

eternal life doesn't sound very appealing if it's not eternal.
if a soul is granted eternal life when they justified but lay in the ground for thousands of years.
 
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Laodicea

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okay...fair enough.
do you believe when your body dies your soul will enter the Lord's presence?
or will you lie sleeping (unconscious) in the grave?

eternal life doesn't sound very appealing if it's not eternal.
if a soul is granted eternal life when they justified but lay in the ground for thousands of years.
1 Thessalonians 4:13-14 KJV
(13) But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
(14) For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring(lead away) with him .
 
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People worship on Sunday because it is tradition. End of story. If there eas another reason it was madeup
Actually, the New Testament is not madeup [sic].

Matt 28:1 Now after the Sabbath, toward the dawn of the first day of the week, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary went to see the tomb. (ESV)

Mark 16:1 When the Sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene and Mary the mother of James and Salome bought spices, so that they might go and anoint him. 2 And very early on the first day of the week, when the sun had risen, they went to the tomb. (ESV)

Luke 24:1 But on the first day of the week, at early dawn, they went to the tomb, taking the spices they had prepared. (ESV)

John 20:1 Now on the first day of the week Mary Magdalene came to the tomb early, while it was still dark, and saw that the stone had been taken away from the tomb. (ESV)
 

Nautilus

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its funny how sunday is the last day of the weekEND...so it the end of the week

Nautilus
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Any calendar will tell you that Sunday is the first day of the week
and that Saturday is the seventh day of the week which God blessed as
the day of rest forever.

"And God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because that in it He
had rested from all His works which God created and made
." Gen.2:2,3.

"For You bless, O Lord, and it shall be blessed forever." 1 Chronicles 17:27.


When people get off work on friday afternoon, do they not say,

"Have a good week-end"?

This alone shows that friday is the last day of the week and saturday
is the day of rest, not Sunday.
Well normal people consider sunday part of their weekend...
 
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danschance

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So don’t let anyone condemn you for what you eat or drink, or for not celebrating certain holy days or new moon ceremonies or Sabbaths. Col. 2;16
The problem with people condemning others for going to Church on Sunday is it violates Col. 2:16, posted above.

Please pull the log out of your own eye before you mention the speck in my eye.
 
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Kerry

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The problem with people condemning others for going to Church on Sunday is it violates Col. 2:16, posted above.

Please pull the log out of your own eye before you mention the speck in my eye.

Look a here, when u under attack. do you waits till Sunday or Saturday. No u gits on the fone and says hey yall comes and helps. Thens wes has a prayer meeting, no matter whats day it be. Whens u needs the Lord he bees they erryday. No matters how use speakeded. For He is God almighty no matter what day it is. He see's thde end from the beginninb and He is not surprised by your circumstance. We may be but He is not.

This whole Sunday, Saturday thing is hogwash. If we spent as much time in prayer as we did this mess, we would have less mess. I was saved on Thursday.
 
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NiceneCreed

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"Remember the sabbath day and keep it holy"
"If you love me keep my commandmenys"
"Many say they know me but their actions are aganist me"
"On judgement day the book of laws was opened and people were judged according to what is in it"

MY QUESTION IS WHY ARE PEOPLE REJECTING THE LORDS WILL. WE CARRY OUR BAGS AND SAY WE ARE GOING TO CHURCH ON SUNDAY. SATURDAY HAS NOW BECOME A DAY OF PARTING AND SOCIAL EVENS. WHY? Someone please answer.
Q: WHY ARE PEOPLE WORSHIPING ON SUNDAY?

A: Why not?
 
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NiceneCreed

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okay...fair enough.
do you believe when your body dies your soul will enter the Lord's presence?
or will you lie sleeping (unconscious) in the grave?

eternal life doesn't sound very appealing if it's not eternal.
if a soul is granted eternal life when they justified but lay in the ground for thousands of years.

This is totally non-related to your post, but I noticed you changed the flag on your avatar; just an observation. Did you move recently?:confused:
 
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Kerry

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Did you know that europe technically goes to church on or at Saturday our time. They are 8 hours ahead of us if not more. So when its 8: 00 am o'clock Sunday for us it is 4:00 o'clock P.M for them. So does God judge us according to Israel Time or our time.
 
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NiceneCreed

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Did you know that europe technically goes to church on or at Saturday our time. They are 8 hours ahead of us if not more. So when its 8: 00 am o'clock Sunday for us it is 4:00 o'clock P.M for them. So does God judge us according to Israel Time or our time.
Clever answer.:)
 
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Arab Muslims liberated Syrian Christians from violent oppression by the Greek Orthodox Church and never charged jizya.

A Short Overview of the Common History of the Syrian Church with Islam through the Centuries - Syriac Orthodox Church of Antioch

Only through the campaigns of Islam in the first half of the 7th century was it possible to free the East from the Byzantines and the Persians. This happened with the help of the members of the Syrian Church; the original inhabitants of Syria of whom one part was of Aramaic origin who inhabited these areas for generations and another part was of Arabic origin. When the Arab Muslims marched into Syria they were welcomed by the Syrians who saw the new rulers as saviors who freed them from the yoke of the Byzantines because the Byzantines tried by force to assimilate them into the Byzantine Church. This was the church of the empire and membership in it would have meant compulsorily acceptance of the resolutions of Chalcedon: that Christ had two natures, the human eating, drinking and feeling pain and the divine making miracles. This would have been a denial of the dogma of their church fathers. The Syrians were also able through the cooperation with the Arab Muslims to retain their ecclesiastical dogma, the Antiochian See, their churches, monasteries, ecclesiastical inheritance and their liturgy.

The Position of the Syrians Toward the Islamic Conquest >From the above it becomes clear that the religious conflicts in the Christian church, the attempts of the Byzantine powers to force the issues of the council of Chalcedon upon the other churches by force, to throw its members in prison, to kill them, to ban them and to drive them out alienated the Syrian Christians. All these unchristian deeds only sowed hate and aversion in the hearts of the Syrians against the Byzantine powers. The Persian powers in their empire oppressed both West and East Syrians in general to force them under tyrannical policies and Zoroastrian beliefs. Therefore the Syrians under the Byzantine and Persian powers saw the Islamic conquerors as liberators and not as occupiers. The Syrians put great hope in them, not only because the Muslims liberated them from their religious trouble but also because they relieved the Syrians of the burdensome taxes that were placed on their backs. They said, “Praise be to God, who delivered us from the unjust Byzantines and who put us under the rule of the just Muslim Arabs.”
Im guessing your a monphysite or rather Oriental "orthodox" your sect broke away after Chalcedon, an ecumenical council. To prove that Chalcedon is the teaching of the Father please explain what was in the the tomb with Christ's body? Was it man or God? If it was God then God died, which is impossible because immortality is part of the essnce of Divinity. If it was man, Christ's second nature, then Christ rose from the dead. What would that make the Holy Theotokos if she only bore Divinity? That would mean that she herself would have been either
1) being herself divine or
2) not the Mother of God because she would have just bore the manhood which was consumed by Christ's Divine nature.

Monophysites follow their "pope of Alexandria" and you are just as guity of ecumenism as the Roman Catholic Church is because you [Monophysites] communion with Syrain Roman Catholics.

Yes the emperor wanted to expand his influence over the Syrians that is why he, along with Patriarch Sergius and Pope Honoruos came up with the doctrine of monoenergism stating that Christ had two natures but one will. The monophysites liked it and were ready to enter into communion, but another Ecumenical COuncil ,the 5th, condemned the error. We donot accept Nestorius or Monophysites instead we teach the Truth of Christ's nature. We don't go for either extreme by saying either He is God or Man we say He was both FULLY GOD and FULLY MAN. You cannot judge the Church based on what public authorities do. And I know for a fact that Islam slaughtered hundreds of Nestorians and Monophysites.
 
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This passage is very clear to all but the spiritually blind. We are free to worship on any day we see fit. Those who say this is not so are in disagreement with this scripture.
the thrust of Col. 2 is comparing man-made traditions against the authority of God. at no time does it indicate "any day we see fit". is says don't let men judge you, that's it.

why. because man-made law is flawed. and to make it worse they used their own made up laws and tried to act as if breaking them was a sin as well. thus raising the authority of them to equal what God has said. that is why the whole chapter is trying to bash man's authority on these things and clarify that God's authority on the Sabbath and the other issue is all that matters.
 
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sparkman

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The Ten Commandments are a summary of the Old Covenant
Exodus 34:28 “So he was there with the Lord forty days and forty nights. He neither ate bread nor drank water. And he wrote on the tablets the word of the covenant, the Ten Commandments.
Exodus 31:18 “And he gave to Moses when he had finished speaking with him on Mount Sinai, the two tablets of the testimony, tablets of stone, written with the finger of God.
Deut 4:13 “And he declared to you his covenant, which he commanded you to perform, that is, the Ten Commandments, and he wrote them on two tablets of stone”.
Deut 9:9 “When I went up the mountain to receive the tablets of stone, the tablets of the covenant that the Lord made with you.”
Deut 9:11 “And at the end of forty days and forty nights the Lord gave me the two tablets of stone, the tablets of the covenant.”
The Old Covenant was an agreement between God and Israel, not God and Christians
Ex 31:12-17 And the Lord said to Moses, “You are to speak to the people of Israel and say, ‘Above all you shall keep my Sabbaths, for this is a sign between me and you throughout your generations, that you may know that I, the Lord, sanctify you. You shall keep the Sabbath, because it is holy to you. Everyone who profanes it shall be put to death. Whoever does any work on it, that soul shall be cut off from among his people. Six days shall work be done, but the seventh day is a Sabbath of solemn rest, holy to the Lord. Whoever does any work on the Sabbath day shall be put to death. Therefore the people of Israel shall keep the Sabbath, observing the Sabbath throughout their generations, as a covenant forever. It is a sign forever between me and the people of Israel that in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested and was refreshed.”
The Old Covenant is no longer in effect for ANYONE
Heb 8:13-9:4 In speaking of a new covenant, he makes the first one obsolete. And what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away. Now even the first covenant had regulations for worship and an earthly place of holiness. For a tent was prepared, the first section, in which were the lampstand and the table, and the bread of the Presence. It is called the Holy Place. Behind the second curtain was a second section called the Most Holy Place, having the golden altar of incense and the ark of the covenant covered on all sides with gold, in which was a golden urn holding the manna, and Aaron’s staff that budded, and the tablets of the covenant.
Gal 3:17 This is what I mean: the law, which came 430 years afterwards, does not annul a covenant previously ratified by God, so as to make the promise void.
Gal 3:19 Why then the law? It was added because of transgressions, until the offspring should come to whom the promise had been made, and it was put in place through angels by an intermediary.
Gal 3:24 So the law was our guardian until Christ came, in order that we might be justified by faith
Gal 3:25 But now that faith is come, we are no longer under a guardian
2 Cor 3:4-18 Such is the confidence that we have through Christ toward God. Not that we are sufficient in ourselves to claim anything as coming from us, but our sufficiency is from God, who has made us sufficient to be ministers of a new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit. For the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. Now if the ministry of death, carved in letters on stone, came with such glory that the Israelites could not gaze at Moses’ face because of its glory, which was being brought to an end, will not the ministry of the Spirit have even much more glory? For if there was glory in the ministry of condemnation, the ministry of righteousness must far exceed it in glory. Indeed, in this case, what once had glory has come to have no glory at all, because of the glory that surpasses it. For if what was being brought to an end came with glory, much more will what is permanent have glory. Since we have such a hope, we are very bold, not like Moses, who would put a veil over his face so that the Israelites might not gaze at the outcome of what was being brought to an end. But their minds were hardened. For to this day, when they read the old covenant, that same veil remains unlifted, because only through Christ is it taken away. Yes, to this day whenever Moses is read a veil lies over their hearts. But when one turns to the Lord, the veil is removed. Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. And we all with unveiled face, beholding the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from one degree of glory to another. For this comes from the Lord who is the Spirit.
The Sabbath, as part of the Old Covenant, is not in affect for ANYONE
Gal 4:10 You observe days and months and seasons and years! I am afraid I may have labored over you in vain.
Rom 14:5-6 One person esteems one day as better than another, while another esteems all days alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind.
Col 2:16-17 Therefore let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink, or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath. These are a shadow of the things to come, but the substance belongs to Christ
Jesus is our Sabbath or spiritual rest, and we enter into that spiritual rest by placing our faith in Him
Matt 11:28-30 Come to me, all who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and lean from me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.
Heb 4:1-8 Therefore, while the promise of entering his rest still stands, let us fear lest any of you should seem to have failed to reach it. For good news came to us just as to them, but the message they heard did not benefit them, because they were not united by faith with those who listened. For we who have believed enter that rest, as he has said, “As I swore in my wrath, They shall not enter my rest. “ although his works were finished from the foundation of the world. For he has somewhere spoken of the seventh day in this way: “And God rested on the seventh day from all his works.” And again in this passage he said, “They shall not enter my rest.”. Since therefore it remains for some to enter it, and those who formerly received the good news failed to enter because of disobedience, again he appoints a certain day, “Today”, saying through David so long afterward, in the words already quoted. “Today, if you hear his voice, do not harden your hearts.” For if Joshua had not given them rest, God would not have spoken of another day later on. So then there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God, for whoever has entered God’s rest has also rested from is works as God did from his. Let us therefore strive to enter that rest, so that no one may fall by the same sort of disobedience.
Christians are under the New Covenant, which has much higher demands and different commandments
Luke 22:20 And likewise the cup after they had eaten, saying, “This cup that is poured out for you is the new covenant in my blood.”
Heb 9:15 Therefore, he is the mediator of a new covenant, so that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance, since a death has occurred that redeems them from the transgressions committed under the first covenant.
Jn 13:34 A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another: just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another.
Jn 15:12 This is my commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you.
Jn 15:17 These things I command you, so that you will love one another
Rom 13:10 Love does no wrong to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.
I am a former Sabbathkeeper due to my association as a new believer with Worldwide Church of God (now called Grace Communion International). Worldwide Church of God came to realize in 1995 that Christians are under the New Covenant, and not the Old Covenant, and the Sabbath does not apply to Christians under the New Covenant. It was a sign of the Old Covenant (like baptism and the Lord’s Supper are signs of the New Covenant), and is not a moral absolute like Sabbathkeepers claim. Sabbathkeeping doctrine invariably takes the focus off the true gospel, which is about Jesus Christ and salvation by grace through faith in Him (Eph 2:8-9). As a Sabbathkeeper, I rarely heard messages about God’s grace and love; the message of such organizations invariably focuses on the Sabbath. Jesus Christ was also placed on the backburner and was not the focus of their teaching. If you would like good sources of information in regards to the Sabbath check out Grace Communion International’s website at https://www.gci.org/law I now attend an Evangelical Free church that focuses on Jesus Christ and salvation through Him, which is the true gospel.