Why are there so many different sects?

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Because many people want their ears "tickled". They only want to accept what THEY think the Truth is and will seek out other people who agree with them.
 
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I've actually asked this question a lot myself. If so many sects exist, and every sect exists distinct from another sect because they believe a specific interpretation of the bible over a different specific interpretation, and every sect says that their sect is the one who has the correct specific interpretation, they can't all be right. If we follow the logic:

Truth is fixed, specific, and singular, it doesn't change (if denominations didn't think it was specific, they wouldn't have very specific doctrinal views). If truth is specific, fixed and singular, then out of all the interpretations of the bible that can possibly exist, there is only one that's true. If there is only one specific truth, then the vast majority of the specific interpretations of the bible are wrong. It is only possible for one specific interpretation of the bible to be correct. If every denomination asserts its specific interpretation of the bible is correct, then either:

They are all wrong;
One is correct;
They are all partly correct and partly wrong;
or truth is not singular, fixed and specific.

If they are all wrong, then none should be followed. If only one is correct, then how can we possibly know which one, since all denominations assert their correctness? If they are all partly correct and partly wrong, then what difference does it make if we follow one or the other? And if truth is not singular, fixed and specific, then there's no point even trying to speculate on what the singular, fixed, specific truth is, because it doesn't exist.

I still haven't found a solution to this problem. Has anyone else?
I have. It's called study. What is truth?

Jesus was born of a virgin. Bible explicitly says so. No doubt. Isaiah prophesied it. Matthew said it was fulfilled.
Guess what. Some folks come along and change it up.
Omni, does the bible say that Jesus was born of a virgin? Yes or No.

You can insert "maid" "young woman" in Isaiah 7:14. Won't change a thing. Why? Because Matthew said the prophet spoke of the Messiah being born of a virgin. Jesus was born of a virgin. Read the Matthew account of Jesus' birth. Wonder why Joseph wanted to divorce Mary? He had not had sexual relations with Mary. She committed adultery. Angel appeared to Joseph and said No. This is of God.

Okay. Read Matthew 16. Upon this rock I will build my church. The only way someone can come up with Peter being the rock is by a deliberate, willful zeal for control. So there's RCC.
Peter said "You are the Christ, the Son of the Living God." That's the truth upon which Jesus will build His church. That's the text. Do you see that?

Jesus was born in Bethlehem. Yes. Matthew says as much. But did you know some folks don't believe it, yet they say they believe the bible. But guess what, they will tell you that it doesn't matter that a prophet of their prophesied that Jesus would be born in Jerusalem. It don't matter one bit.

Adam and Eve ate and died. Did you know some folks have a problem with that. Understandable to a point. How did they die. They died spiritually when they ate, separated from God. Began to also die physically. What the bible shows. Read it.

Some folks contend there were three wise men at the manger. Why? Because there was frankincense, incense, and myrrh. So three gifts means three gift givers. Nope. Not necessarily. Three gifts and possibly two wise men. Don't know. Don't matter.

The bible is not at fault for there being disagreement among people, people are at fault.

Some folks believe the earth is flat. You could spin them around this mighty globe, they'd still find a reason to say it's flat.

The Soviets said our landing on the moon was just a Hollywood production, a show. People believed it. Why? Didn't look at the evidence and what is plausible.
 
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Did you know there are many megachurches that are a gay-affirming congregation, hosting and performing same sex weddings today?

There is an article in the Christian Research Journal, vol. 38/no. 4, on page 46 that talks about Churches endorsing gay Marriage.
 

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Omni: If they are all partly correct and partly wrong, then what difference does it make if we follow one or the other?
The difference does matter because some of the differences have little consequences (e.g. mode of baptism), whereas other differences have huge consequences (e.g. adding our works to faith in Christ for salvation).

Galatians 1:8-9 (KJV)
8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
 
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Galahad

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Did you know there are many megachurches that are a gay-affirming congregation, hosting and performing same sex weddings today?

There is an article in the Christian Research Journal, vol. 38/no. 4, on page 46 that talks about Churches endorsing gay Marriage.
Those groups can endorse all they want. God does not. The bible says so. Those churches endorsing such are not in the way of Christ. What caused those churches endorse gay marriage? Did the bible change? Absolutely not. What changed? The manners and customs of people in this country. But the bible did not change.

Try having a discussion with political churches. No different than having a discussion with a Berkeley college student attending a Bernie for President pep-rally. Nothing but "Wells" "Just thinks" "Like this" "Everyone deserves" and so on.


 
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Because: People.
 

crossnote

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Half the problem is many no longer see the Scriptures as fully inspired by God without error thus they take liberty to interpret Scripture to their own preconceptions...without fear of the consequences, it's just a "religious book" to them.
 
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What has changed is the USA has walked away from God. The Government was founded on the Bible. Now look at it. This Country now follows Satan and his teachings. We are no better than a lot of Countries today.

Because of this i believe God has removed His hand of protection from us.
 
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I have. It's called study. What is truth?

Jesus was born of a virgin. Bible explicitly says so. No doubt. Isaiah prophesied it. Matthew said it was fulfilled.
Guess what. Some folks come along and change it up.
Omni, does the bible say that Jesus was born of a virgin? Yes or No.

You can insert "maid" "young woman" in Isaiah 7:14. Won't change a thing. Why? Because Matthew said the prophet spoke of the Messiah being born of a virgin. Jesus was born of a virgin. Read the Matthew account of Jesus' birth. Wonder why Joseph wanted to divorce Mary? He had not had sexual relations with Mary. She committed adultery. Angel appeared to Joseph and said No. This is of God.

Okay. Read Matthew 16. Upon this rock I will build my church. The only way someone can come up with Peter being the rock is by a deliberate, willful zeal for control. So there's RCC.
Peter said "You are the Christ, the Son of the Living God." That's the truth upon which Jesus will build His church. That's the text. Do you see that?

Jesus was born in Bethlehem. Yes. Matthew says as much. But did you know some folks don't believe it, yet they say they believe the bible. But guess what, they will tell you that it doesn't matter that a prophet of their prophesied that Jesus would be born in Jerusalem. It don't matter one bit.

Adam and Eve ate and died. Did you know some folks have a problem with that. Understandable to a point. How did they die. They died spiritually when they ate, separated from God. Began to also die physically. What the bible shows. Read it.

Some folks contend there were three wise men at the manger. Why? Because there was frankincense, incense, and myrrh. So three gifts means three gift givers. Nope. Not necessarily. Three gifts and possibly two wise men. Don't know. Don't matter.

The bible is not at fault for there being disagreement among people, people are at fault.

Some folks believe the earth is flat. You could spin them around this mighty globe, they'd still find a reason to say it's flat.

The Soviets said our landing on the moon was just a Hollywood production, a show. People believed it. Why? Didn't look at the evidence and what is plausible.
I didn't say the book was at fault. Books are books. People obviously interpret them different ways. But there's a logical problem with that, when every single sect says their interpretation is right. They can't all be right.
 
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Jesus did say there will be a falling away of the Church just before He comes back to remove His Children from this Earth in the Rapture. We are very close to that day when we will be removed from this Earth to allow Satan to rule the World for seven years.
 
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I didn't say the book was at fault. Books are books. People obviously interpret them different ways. But there's a logical problem with that, when every single sect says their interpretation is right. They can't all be right.
as my one of our deacons said, "will there be other fundamental christian demoniations in heaven? yes, but free will baptist will be first in line" lol but really we need to all have the fundamentals written on our hearts, birth, death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ
 
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The difference does matter because some of the differences have little consequences (e.g. mode of baptism), whereas other differences have huge consequences (e.g. adding our works to faith in Christ for salvation).
The Catholics would say that taking away works from faith is the wrong way to do it, while you say adding works to faith is wrong. T Catholics think they're just as right as you do. So who do I believe?

My issue isn't a problem with the doctrinal specific itself (for instance OSAS vs apostasy), my issue is that every denomination asserts that they have got the doctrinal specifics correct. All denominations are saying that there can only be one specific truth, one interpretation, one correct version, one proper way to look at the bible and at God. And they are all saying that their interpretation, their version, their way of looking at the bible, is it.


If truth is singular, and there is only one it, they can't all be it. But they all think they're ​it.
 

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i disagree with that
Scripture says that for him to know right and not to do it to him it is sin.

Jas 4:17 Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 

notuptome

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Churches are failing especially mega churches because they have abandoned preaching and teaching the word of God. Worship so called has been diminished to a rock band and a social policy gospel that only mentions Jesus it does not lift Him up as the Savior He died to become. The church that fails to disciple people in the word of God has failed.

There were two malfactors crucified one on either side of Jesus. One faced is guilt and humble sought forgiveness and help from the Lord. The other just as guilty sought to manipulate Christ. Seeking only to have a means of escape from the cross and death. Today we have two kinds of churches. One that is seeking to submit to and be pleasing to the Lord Who bought them. The other is seeking to manipulate Christ to get what they want from Him.

The church that admits it is not worthy and all that it has it has received from the Lord by grace is the church that will see the kingdom of God. The church that wants only to have fire insurance and still live like and enjoy all the worlds carnal activities will not have the same vision.

Should we delight in the worlds pleasures or should we deny the worlds pleasure for the love of our Savior? Does the church influence the world or does the world influence the church?

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 

p_rehbein

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What makes so many Christian sects on earth? And what is the difference among them?
Why do you think there are so many? Waiting for your thoughts............
 

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The Catholics would say that taking away works from faith is the wrong way to do it, while you say adding works to faith is wrong. T Catholics think they're just as right as you do. So who do I believe?

My issue isn't a problem with the doctrinal specific itself (for instance OSAS vs apostasy), my issue is that every denomination asserts that they have got the doctrinal specifics correct. All denominations are saying that there can only be one specific truth, one interpretation, one correct version, one proper way to look at the bible and at God. And they are all saying that their interpretation, their version, their way of looking at the bible, is it.


If truth is singular, and there is only one it, they can't all be it. But they all think they're ​it.
Yes, Truth is singular and it is the duty of man to seek it out.
 
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KennethC

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The Catholics would say that taking away works from faith is the wrong way to do it, while you say adding works to faith is wrong. T Catholics think they're just as right as you do. So who do I believe?

My issue isn't a problem with the doctrinal specific itself (for instance OSAS vs apostasy), my issue is that every denomination asserts that they have got the doctrinal specifics correct. All denominations are saying that there can only be one specific truth, one interpretation, one correct version, one proper way to look at the bible and at God. And they are all saying that their interpretation, their version, their way of looking at the bible, is it.


If truth is singular, and there is only one it, they can't all be it. But they all think they're ​it.
It depends on how they speak on those works as:

Scenario A: If they speak on works to earn salvation.............It is wrong !!!

Scenario B: If they speak on works as proof of one who is saved because they are the product of the fruits of the Holy Spirit..............Then it is correct !!!
 

p_rehbein

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as my one of our deacons said, "will there be other fundamental christian demoniations in heaven? yes, but free will baptist will be first in line" lol but really we need to all have the fundamentals written on our hearts, birth, death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ
I agree..........some folks don't seem to understand that Christ does not recognize "denominations." Nor will there be any in Heaven........
 
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It depends on how they speak on those works as:

Scenario A: If they speak on works to earn salvation.............It is wrong !!!

Scenario B: If they speak on works as proof of one who is saved because they are the product of the fruits of the Holy Spirit..............Then it is correct !!!
Right, but they also think they're correct. You think you're correct. They think they're correct. See the problem?