Why did God need to become Man?
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That is a rather strange response. Surely you must know what is in Bible. So here is a verse that you should get acquainted with (1 Timothy 3:16 KJB): And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
This corresponds to John 1:14: And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
Since the Word was (and is) God, there can be absolutely no question as to God becoming Man ("flesh") in order to die for our sins.
This corresponds to John 1:14: And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
Since the Word was (and is) God, there can be absolutely no question as to God becoming Man ("flesh") in order to die for our sins.
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Both. The incarnation of Christ was a divine necessity. Hence "need".
HEBREWS 10: WHY THE SON OF GOD BECAME THE SON OF MAN
5 Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:
6 In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure.
7 Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.
8 Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law;
9 Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.
10By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
HEBREWS 10: WHY THE SON OF GOD BECAME THE SON OF MAN
5 Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:
6 In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure.
7 Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.
8 Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law;
9 Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.
10By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
Could he have saved mankind in any other way while simultaneously being congruent with his own character?
Or could he have simply forsaken mankind while being consistent with his righteousness?
I honestly can't answer those questions, but I suppose a "no" is possible.
Jesus proved, by his righteousness, that mankind was salvageable.. If God couldn't live righteously in the flesh, then man is an utter failure of a creation. Sure the omniscient, omnipotent God knows, by his omniscience that on his holy drawing board, he knew that man was theoretically salvageable. But what is knowledge or theory or hypotheticals if they aren't put into practice? It's a tree without fruit. God is not a tree without fruit- he is the root of all fruit.
So I think he "had" or "needed" to do it- not because of some external force or demand on him- but he made himself do it, simply because it was the right thing to do, based on what he had already decided was right. If he, as god, requires certain things of mankind, then he ought to demonstrate that those things that are required could even possibly be done. Otherwise how could he condemn anyone? No one would confess that he truly is Lord, because they would say he demanded things that were impossible.
But the bible says that every tongue will confess that he is Lord.
Can you imagine that? "every tongue" seems like it would even include the people about to be thrown into the Lake of Fire. How else will they confess unless it is proven to them? People knowing that they are going to ETERNAL DESTRUCTION are gonna concede.
I COULDN'T EVEN IMAGINE THAT!!! If someone was gonna send me to eternal destruction, I'd be like "NO WAY, YOUR NOT LORD". The only way to make me to confess, was to prove without any doubt so that i was convinced that I was a total douchebag, and deserved eternal destruction- so that even when offered a way out of eternal destruction- I am the one that turned it down, and chose eternal destruction for myself.
If he didn't he would get no glory from his creation at all, and everything would be a waste. Is a wasteful god, a perfect holy god?
I'm not really 100% sure of this train of thought on the matter that I have going, but I think it's pretty sound that everything that God has done was done because it was of necessity. But even the necessity of the things needing to be done was necessitated by God himself. If that makes any sense.
Or could he have simply forsaken mankind while being consistent with his righteousness?
I honestly can't answer those questions, but I suppose a "no" is possible.
Jesus proved, by his righteousness, that mankind was salvageable.. If God couldn't live righteously in the flesh, then man is an utter failure of a creation. Sure the omniscient, omnipotent God knows, by his omniscience that on his holy drawing board, he knew that man was theoretically salvageable. But what is knowledge or theory or hypotheticals if they aren't put into practice? It's a tree without fruit. God is not a tree without fruit- he is the root of all fruit.
So I think he "had" or "needed" to do it- not because of some external force or demand on him- but he made himself do it, simply because it was the right thing to do, based on what he had already decided was right. If he, as god, requires certain things of mankind, then he ought to demonstrate that those things that are required could even possibly be done. Otherwise how could he condemn anyone? No one would confess that he truly is Lord, because they would say he demanded things that were impossible.
But the bible says that every tongue will confess that he is Lord.
Can you imagine that? "every tongue" seems like it would even include the people about to be thrown into the Lake of Fire. How else will they confess unless it is proven to them? People knowing that they are going to ETERNAL DESTRUCTION are gonna concede.
I COULDN'T EVEN IMAGINE THAT!!! If someone was gonna send me to eternal destruction, I'd be like "NO WAY, YOUR NOT LORD". The only way to make me to confess, was to prove without any doubt so that i was convinced that I was a total douchebag, and deserved eternal destruction- so that even when offered a way out of eternal destruction- I am the one that turned it down, and chose eternal destruction for myself.
If he didn't he would get no glory from his creation at all, and everything would be a waste. Is a wasteful god, a perfect holy god?
I'm not really 100% sure of this train of thought on the matter that I have going, but I think it's pretty sound that everything that God has done was done because it was of necessity. But even the necessity of the things needing to be done was necessitated by God himself. If that makes any sense.
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Of course but God can and did create a mortal body through Mary that was capable of dying. God son inhabited that mortal body and was in it when it died, and that is when spirit and soul of God Son left that body. A few days later God Son re-entered the body and that dead body came back to life but was immortal and that is the physical of God Son to this day and forever.
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I think it is simply to show us how much He loves us that He is willing to physically die to show us this.
We couldn't come before God unless we were absolutely sure of this fact.
For God so loved the world that He gave His Only Begotten Son...
Funny how such simple scriptures that we have known since childhood could have such deep meaning that we never really thought of before...
We couldn't come before God unless we were absolutely sure of this fact.
For God so loved the world that He gave His Only Begotten Son...
Funny how such simple scriptures that we have known since childhood could have such deep meaning that we never really thought of before...
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Amen. Jesus is alive and well, and still called a man in Scripture:
1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus.
1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus.
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The real man only became real when God breathed His Spirit into him.
"And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being."
Before the fall, both Adam and Eve were clear about their nature: they were spirits, like their Father, but clothed in flesh. This is why they did not see themselves as naked.
When they sinned their identity shifted from the spirit of God in them to their own souls. Their souls became the core of their identity. This is what it means when it is written "Then the eyes of both of them were opened..." This was not their physical eyes, this was the manner in which they perceived the world, "..and they knew that they were naked..." As spirits clothed in flesh they were not naked. As souls with a body, they were.
Jesus came to restore this original intent of God the Father. And to do so He did not live by the power of his own soul but by the Spirit of God. When He died, He could not be contained by Death because Death only had power because of sin. Having no sin, He triumphed over Death's reign over the lives of men and He arose as Christ, the Life-Giving Spirit. Now, all who believe in Him are given the same economy, not of the flesh that is perishing but of the Spirit of God Who never passes away.
Therefore, In Christ, we are spirits clothed in flesh. Our bodies are not WHO we are. Our bodies are WHERE we are. Our identities were never to be wrapped up in our bodies that return to the dust. We were always to identify with our Father, Who is Spirit and never passes away.
"And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being."
Before the fall, both Adam and Eve were clear about their nature: they were spirits, like their Father, but clothed in flesh. This is why they did not see themselves as naked.
When they sinned their identity shifted from the spirit of God in them to their own souls. Their souls became the core of their identity. This is what it means when it is written "Then the eyes of both of them were opened..." This was not their physical eyes, this was the manner in which they perceived the world, "..and they knew that they were naked..." As spirits clothed in flesh they were not naked. As souls with a body, they were.
Jesus came to restore this original intent of God the Father. And to do so He did not live by the power of his own soul but by the Spirit of God. When He died, He could not be contained by Death because Death only had power because of sin. Having no sin, He triumphed over Death's reign over the lives of men and He arose as Christ, the Life-Giving Spirit. Now, all who believe in Him are given the same economy, not of the flesh that is perishing but of the Spirit of God Who never passes away.
Therefore, In Christ, we are spirits clothed in flesh. Our bodies are not WHO we are. Our bodies are WHERE we are. Our identities were never to be wrapped up in our bodies that return to the dust. We were always to identify with our Father, Who is Spirit and never passes away.
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There are several reasons God had to be man but I will share a few and majors,
1.The Bible says in Romans 6:23 that the wages of sin is death... by extension you can only pay for sin by death but God doesn’t die so he had to first become man to have the payment for sins possible!!
2.God created the earth and gave to man Control of it,so God had to first become man to have any transaction of authority on earth.
3.Man lost the battle in the garden of Eden in the flesh,so the battle could only be fought by God in the same realm!
1.The Bible says in Romans 6:23 that the wages of sin is death... by extension you can only pay for sin by death but God doesn’t die so he had to first become man to have the payment for sins possible!!
2.God created the earth and gave to man Control of it,so God had to first become man to have any transaction of authority on earth.
3.Man lost the battle in the garden of Eden in the flesh,so the battle could only be fought by God in the same realm!
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FAQ: From whence did baby Jesus obtain a Y chromosome for his male
gender?
A: In the beginning, Eve's entire body was constructed with material taken
from Adam's body.
Seeing as how Eve is the mother of all women, then any material taken from
Mary's body to construct a Y chromosome for baby Jesus would be owed to
Eve's body.
The beauty of it is that a Y chromosome constructed with material taken
from Mary's body would not be an alien substance created ex nihilo; but
would be 100% natural, and easily traceable all the way back to Eve, and
from thence to the very dust that was used to construct Adam's body.
I can't prove any of this of course, but nevertheless I sincerely believe that
what I suggest herein actually took place when the power of the Most High
overshadowed Jesus' mom per Luke 1:35; and if my suggestion is true, then
little Jesus was thoroughly my fellow top to bottom-- biologically descended,
as I, from the Man that God created in the book of Genesis.
• Heb 2:17 . . He had to be made like his brethren in every way
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FAQ: From whence did baby Jesus obtain a Y chromosome for his male
gender?
A: In the beginning, Eve's entire body was constructed with material taken
from Adam's body.
Seeing as how Eve is the mother of all women, then any material taken from
Mary's body to construct a Y chromosome for baby Jesus would be owed to
Eve's body.
The beauty of it is that a Y chromosome constructed with material taken
from Mary's body would not be an alien substance created ex nihilo; but
would be 100% natural, and easily traceable all the way back to Eve, and
from thence to the very dust that was used to construct Adam's body.
I can't prove any of this of course, but nevertheless I sincerely believe that
what I suggest herein actually took place when the power of the Most High
overshadowed Jesus' mom per Luke 1:35; and if my suggestion is true, then
little Jesus was thoroughly my fellow top to bottom-- biologically descended,
as I, from the Man that God created in the book of Genesis.
• Heb 2:17 . . He had to be made like his brethren in every way
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