Why didn't Jesus Baptize?

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flob

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Satan is not defeated by water baptism.
To the contrary:
All of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into His death,
Rm 6:3.
He also Himself, in like manner partook of blood and flesh that through death He might destroy him who has the might of death, that is, the devil,
Heb 2:14.
As Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so must the Son of Man be lifted up, that every one who believes into Him may have eternal life,
John 3:14-15.
By faith they passed through the Red Sea as through dry land, in which the Egyptians, while making the attempt, were swallowed up,
Heb 11:29.
He who believes and is baptized shall be saved,
Mark 16:16a.






After Jesus was water baptized he went into the wilderness to be tempted of the Devil. The Devil was not defeated, but was resisted by submission to God, answering with the word of God. The Devil didn't stop opposing Jesus nor the apostles, nor anyone today
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Satan isn't eliminated until after the 1000 years, in Revelation 20:10.
That does not contradict Hebrews 2:14 and other verses in the paragraph above.
He is defeated, crucified spiritually, in Christ's crucifixion, and hence also in
baptism. Rom 6:3; Mk 16:16; Heb 11:29; 1 Cor 10:1-2.
You can remind Satan of this when he bothers you.





The Church is not the agent of immersing people into the Church...
The body of Christ is added to by the Spirit, not by mortal men.
To the contrary:
maybe you and I in this case are talking around one another. I simply repeated that
Jesus Himself did not baptize, but rather His disciples,
John 4:2.







The Old Testament types and shadows of the Church were not the express images of the eternal.
To the contrary, again, possibly, you and I are talking around one another in this case.
It is not good for the man to be alone; I will make him a helper as his counterpart...Jehovah God caused a deep sleep to fall upon the man, and he slept; and He took one of his ribs and closed up the flesh in its place. And Jehovah God built the rib, which He had taken from the man, into a woman and brought her to the man. And the man said, This time this is bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; this one shall be called Woman because out of Man this one was taken. Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and cleave to his wife, and they shall become one flesh,
Genesis 2:18-24.

He Himself being the Savior of the Body...Christ loved the church and gave Himself up for her that He might sanctify her, cleansing her by the washing of the water in the word, that He might present the church to Himself glorious, not having spot or wrinkle of any such things, but that she would be holy and without blemish...nourishes and cherishes, even as Christ also the church, because we are members of His Body. For this cause a man shall leave his father and mother and shall be joined to his wife, and the two shall be one flesh. This mystery is great, but I speak with regard to Christ and the church,
Ephesians 5:22-33.

I will build My church,
Matthew 16:18.

So then, my brothers, you also have been made dead to the law through the body of Christ, so that you might be joined to another, to Him who has been raised from the dead, that we might bear fruit to God,
Romans 7:4.

The two shall be one flesh. But he who is joined to the Lord is one spirit,
1 Corinthians 6:16-17.

You have come forward to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem; and to myriads of angels, to the universal gathering; and to the church of the firstborn who have been enrolled in the heavens; and to God...and to Jesus......The holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband,
Hebrews 12:22-24; Rev 21:2.







The type of Noah's flood experience is limited only to letting the waters of the flood being the destroyer. The water didn't save anyone.
To the contrary:
The days of Noah, while the ark was being prepared; into which a few, that is, eight souls, were brought safely through by water. Which water, as the antitype, also now saves you, that is, baptism...the appeal of a good conscience unto God through the resurrection of Jesus Christ,
1 Peter 3:20-22.
He who believes and is baptized shall be saved,
Mark 16:16.





Getting into and staying in the Ark provided us a figurative concept of salvation in Christ, water baptism itself a figure, a symbol, not the actual salvation. 1 Peter 3:18-22
[SUP]18 [/SUP] For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
[SUP]19 [/SUP] By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
[SUP]20 [/SUP] Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

[SUP]21 [/SUP] The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
[SUP]22 [/SUP] Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.
Then you may be confused. Part of getting into Christ is doing what He says. He commanded to get baptized. That's not my invention. So just do what He says if you want to get into Him.





Submitting to the gospel of Christ is what saves, receiving all that the Lord provides for us to live by faith in Christ. Likewise circumcision was but a figure to the Jews. The gospel in us is what answers to God, made the righteousness of Christ by grace through faith, not through signs, shadows or types
Now it sounds like we're saying the same thing. Submitting = obeying. Receiving what the Lord provides is receiving His death, also. I didn't invent baptism, He did. It's His idea. It's His command. You said you want Him
 
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Kaycie

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Jesus didn't baptize because it wasn't His job. He could have, but it is Gods will for everyone to do what they've been assigned. Jesus also did not just tell Paul what he must do to be saved, because that's our job. Instead he told him to go into the city and he will be told what he MUST do.

SIDE NOTE: Belief alone did not save Paul. Asking Jesus into your heart did not save Paul. Praying did not save Paul. Having someone else pray for Paul did not save Paul. Fasting did not save Paul. So HOW did Paul get saved? The answer is in verse Acts 22:16...

"What are you waiting for? Get up, be baptized and wash your sins away calling on the name of the Lord."
 
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flob

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"What are you waiting for? Get up, be baptized and wash your sins away calling on the name of the Lord."
Amen to Acts 22:16.
To the contrary of the CoC, etc, heresy:
Saul of Tarsus received the Lord and was born anew the instant he said 'Lord, who are You?'
And He said, 'I am Jesus...'
Paul 'washed away his sins' in 22:16, calling on the name of Jesus, before the other believers. Because
calling on the name of the Lord was the very sign by which he had previously hunted and arrested them, 9:14, 21.

As the Lord stated, in Mark 16:16, believing (into Jesus) is the requirement to not be condemned (John 3:18.)
Believing and being baptized is the requirement to be saved in this world from Satan's kingdom (Exodus14:30; Hebrews 11:7, 29).
Baptism is not a matter of one's eternal destiny (Hebrews 11:28)
 
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kaylagrl

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Wow Wille T I stood up for you in another thread but you let me down here.Seriously harsh man.I think you own the OP an apology this time.Especially since she is a new Christian.Im not the police here but I sure dont like what I see.You disappoint me.
 
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MsLimpet

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Wow Wille T I stood up for you in another thread but you let me down here.Seriously harsh man.I think you own the OP an apology this time.Especially since she is a new Christian.Im not the police here but I sure dont like what I see.You disappoint me.
Thank You, made me weep. Bless You.
 
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Wow Wille T I stood up for you in another thread but you let me down here.Seriously harsh man.I think you own the OP an apology this time.Especially since she is a new Christian.Im not the police here but I sure dont like what I see.You disappoint me.
You seem to be decent (a little duped and misguided, but decent), but I would probably react the same way to you if you told me I was not a Christian because I first told you to study the Scriptures for yourself, and secondly, told you that you were mistaken about calling someone an Obama lover, who clearly states he is not.
 
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kaylagrl

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You seem to be decent (a little duped and misguided, but decent), but I would probably react the same way to you if you told me I was not a Christian because I first told you to study the Scriptures for yourself, and secondly, told you that you were mistaken about calling someone an Obama lover, who clearly states he is not.
I stood up for you and as I recall she apologized. Thanks for saying Im decent,I like to believe the same about you. I know you speak a lot about forgiveness here and we all need to do so. Ive had to both forgive and be forgiven in here.We cant talk it if we dont walk it.Just sayin. There are people here I just cannot seem to get along with and therefore I ignore them and keep on. Our views are too far apart so I just leave them alone. Im not a mod,I just call em as I see em.
 
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I stood up for you and as I recall she apologized. Thanks for saying Im decent,I like to believe the same about you. I know you speak a lot about forgiveness here and we all need to do so. Ive had to both forgive and be forgiven in here.We cant talk it if we dont walk it.Just sayin. There are people here I just cannot seem to get along with and therefore I ignore them and keep on. Our views are too far apart so I just leave them alone. Im not a mod,I just call em as I see em.
You have GOT to be kidding me! You and I must call "an apology" entirely different things. Please go read that APOLOGY.... and then read her following post about why she "mouthed the words."
 
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kaylagrl

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You have GOT to be kidding me! You and I must call "an apology" entirely different things. Please go read that APOLOGY.... and then read her following post about why she "mouthed the words."

Im not going to start a three way argument. You sounded harsh in your comments here. You dont have to listen to anything I say.Im just telling you how it came across to me reading this thread. If y'all dont get along you probably need to put each other on ignore. Problem solved.
 
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Im not going to start a three way argument. You sounded harsh in your comments here. You dont have to listen to anything I say.Im just telling you how it came across to me reading this thread. If y'all dont get along you probably need to put each other on ignore. Problem solved.
Which is what I already told her to do. Personally, I don't do <"ignore.">