Why divorce is NOT the unforgivable / unpadorable sin

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LW97

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MattforJesus said:
Right, the unpardonable sin is not divorce for it is a sin according to the flesh between people.

Jesus said a person can blaspheme against the Son, the man Christ Jesus, and be forgiven, for it is a sin against the flesh, but cannot blaspheme against the Spirit and be forgiven.

Which the Pharisees blasphemed against the Spirit, when they said Jesus cast out devils by Beelzebub, so they said He had an unclean spirit, when He has a clean spirit, the Holy Spirit.

Which Paul persecuted the Church but he did not blaspheme against God, but went against the man Christ Jesus, the flesh, not believing He was of God, until the revelation of Jesus to him then he believed in Jesus.

The unpardonable sin is attributing evil to God when He is good.

Anything that is a sin against people can be forgiven, but a person cannot sin against God by attributing evil to Him when He is good.
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This sin is rejecting the free gift of God
 
Jewel5712

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trofimus said:
And if you are living in a new (invalid) marriage, you are not allowed to come to eucharist, I think. You are considered unrepentant.
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Sad..but years ago..didnt they banish you from the church entirely if divorced?
 
calibob

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my mom wasn't allowed to take communion because dad wasn't catholic.
 
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7seasrekeyed said:
there have been threads in this forum, if I remember right, started by those of the Catholic persuasion, that have said that if you are divorced and remarried, you must divorce your current spouse because God will not forgive you getting married again if you have been divorced

quite the domino effect
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The Catholic have that law of men as a oral tradition as if they were the final authority and not scriptures so that they can make marriage like it never happened to begin with . Its one of those $$$$$ makers selling the indulgences of what they call annulment.

We are to buy truth and not sell it

Annulment is not a biblical tradition.

Mark 7:13King James Version Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.
 
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calibob said:
my mom wasn't allowed to take communion because dad wasn't catholic.
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Did she know that going in? Again..church legalism...if you know what the communion elements represent..it has nothing to do with your marital status..
 
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trofimus said:
And if you are living in a new (invalid) marriage, you are not allowed to come to eucharist, I think. You are considered unrepentant.
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Yes, to those who go above that which is written and pretend the kingdom of God does come by observation, walking by sight and therefore not mixing faith (the unseen spiritual understanding ) in what they do hear coming from the scriptures. They simply turn things upside down like the apostate Jews and make scripture (sola scriptura) with effect as if the Holy Spirit was dead and had no understanding .

Isaiah 29:16 Surely your turning of things upside down shall be esteemed as the potter's clay: for shall the work say of him that made it, He made me not? or shall the thing framed say of him that framed it, He had no understanding?
 
calibob

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Well, of course she knew. They were married 58 years. She loved my dad more than the church. She kept going and didn't care what the priests thought. She got last rights and all was forgiven in the end.
 
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calibob said:
Well, of course she knew. They were married 58 years. She loved my dad more than the church. She kept going and didn't care what the priests thought. She got last rights and all was forgiven in the end.
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Good for her..but she never needed the churches
calibob said:
Well, of course she knew. They were married 58 years. She loved my dad more than the church. She kept going and didn't
care what the priests thought. She got
last rights and all was forgiven in the end.
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Good for her..but she did nothing wrong..church didnt need to forgive..Christ forgives!
 
calibob

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Jewel5712 said:
Did she know that going in? Again..church legalism...if you know what the communion elements represent..it has nothing to do with your marital status..
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She didn't understand much, I don't think she ever read a bible. She was practicly spoon fed catholic doctrine and dogma since childhood. She was afraid she'd be damned to go to another church.
 
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calibob said:
She didn't understand much, I don't think she ever read a bible. She was practicly spoon fed catholic doctrine and dogma since childhood. She was afraid she'd be damned to go to another church.
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SOOOOO SAAADDDDD!
 
calibob

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It was illegal for non english speaking children to attend public schools in California in the 1920s. Mom could speak Slavic and Italian so Catholic school latin was a breeze and she was raised in a fishing community, with segregated schools, housing etc. The depression hit when she was 10, that was the end of her education.
 
Jewel5712

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calibob said:
It was illegal for non english speaking children to attend public schools in California in the 1920s. Mom could speak Slavic and Italian so Catholic school latin was a breeze and she was raised in a fishing community, with segregated schools, housing etc. The depression hit when she was 10, that was the end of her education.
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Yes..many women relied on thier man more than they do now..the man worked..drove the car..etc..
 
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trofimus said:
But that would be about a continuation in sin, not about unforgivability of it.
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I'm not sure what you are saying here

but what I was posting about, was being told that a divorced person remarrying, is not forgiven UNTIL they divorce the 2nd person they married.

so you get divorced, to be forgiven.

that's not my belief
 
calibob

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I never gave it much thought but I think I'm doing fine, I have children all around me their is no fear of being homeless or going hungry. I'm good to go. You'r turn, What do you want out of life? Jewel?
 
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7seasrekeyed said:
I'm not sure what you are saying here

but what I was posting about, was being told that a divorced person remarrying, is not forgiven UNTIL they divorce the 2nd person they married.

so you get divorced, to be forgiven.

that's not my belief
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Ooooo..not mine either..adultery is biblical acceptance of divorce..God forgives us ..but there also are bible "conditions" for a divorced person to be able to re marry..and it has nothing to do with what the church says but what God says in His word..its not popular but still there...
 
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7seasrekeyed said:
I'm not sure what you are saying here

but what I was posting about, was being told that a divorced person remarrying, is not forgiven UNTIL they divorce the 2nd person they married.

so you get divorced, to be forgiven.

that's not my belief
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Its my understanding that if a divorce person re marries and the first ex is not remarried or dead..they commit adultery...
 
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Jewel5712 said:
Its my understanding that if a divorce person re marries and the first ex is not remarried or dead..they commit adultery...
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Ooooo..not mine either..adultery is biblical acceptance of divorce..God forgives us ..but there also are bible "conditions" for a divorced person to be able to re marry..and it has nothing to do with what the church says but what God says in His word..its not popular but still there...
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Hi Jewel

I'm not posting about my understanding. I was posting about what I have seen Catholics, in this forum, post about their understanding. It's been some time since I have seen one of those kinds of posts

thanks
 
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