Why do Christians believe in a place of torment called Hell?

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When I have opportunity I tell my loved one's the truth. Hell is eternal. All Christians should tell them. There's no purgatory.
worth repeating

When I have opportunity (do you mean others than you?)I tell my loved one's the truth. Hell is eternal.
 

Magenta

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It is true that the second death lasts forever after :)

Only God is eternal. Everything He created had a beginning and therefore is
placed in a different category, which is dependent upon/contingent to Him.
 

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Psalm 111:10 (NKJV)
10 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom;
2317. theosebeia
Definition: fear of God
Usage: reverence for God, fear of God, godliness, piety.

Proverbs1:7 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.
 
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He died and is still alive in the fire. Make up any term you like.
No need to make anything up since I have the Word of God on my side, the Sword of the Spirit. The same sword Jesus used to beat back Satan with when He was tempted in the desert for 40 days.

Your doctrine stands in clear contradiction of the Bible:

John 3:36
36He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.



I just hope your loved ones don't burn in Hell "forever and ever" because of you telling them there is no eternal Hell!
You don't actually hope that for my loved ones. You're resorting to personal attacks at this point; your personal attacks against my family are a clear indicator you've ran out of any coherent and sound argument. This conversation is over.
 

Duckybill

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No need to make anything up since I have the Word of God on my side, the Sword of the Spirit. The same sword Jesus used to beat back Satan with when He was tempted in the desert for 40 days.
Tell us what I made up. You don't even know. I cited every verse for proof.
Your doctrine stands in clear contradiction of the Bible:
Then why didn't you address each contradiction like I did you?
John 3:36
36He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God ABIDES on him.


Thanks for the confession!



You don't actually hope that for my loved ones. You're resorting to personal attacks at this point; your personal attacks against my family are a clear indicator you've ran out of any coherent and sound argument. This conversation is over.[/QUOTE]
 

Duckybill

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2317. theosebeia
Definition: fear of God
Usage: reverence for God, fear of God, godliness, piety.
Your "definition" does not overrule our Christian Bibles.

Proverbs1:7 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.[/QUOTE]
 

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The first encounter with a lie.

The serpent of old the Devil told Eve. You shall not surly die.

When they ate of the tree they did not die at that moment, but they did start ding. Much like sin it starts slow. People lived for 100s of years and over time lived shorter and shorter lives.

This time and age has a lie also. One where people in hell burn without end. In other words you will not surly die they say you just keep burning.

At some point God will do away with sin and Satan and those who follow him. No more burning on an on just gone ashes! Then God will create a new havens and earth.
 

Duckybill

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The first encounter with a lie.

The serpent of old the Devil told Eve. You shall not surly die.

When they ate of the tree they did not die at that moment, but they did start ding. Much like sin it starts slow. People lived for 100s of years and over time lived shorter and shorter lives.

This time and age has a lie also. One where people in hell burn without end. In other words you will not surly die they say you just keep burning.

At some point God will do away with sin and Satan and those who follow him. No more burning on an on just gone ashes! Then God will create a new havens and earth.
Hell will be filled with people who don't believe in Hell.

Matthew 25:41 (NKJV)
41 Then He will also say to those on the left hand, 'Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:

Revelation 20:10 (NKJV)
10 The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
 

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Hell will be filled with people who don't believe in Hell.

Matthew 25:41 (NKJV)
41 Then He will also say to those on the left hand, 'Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:

Revelation 20:10 (NKJV)
10 The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
Yeah Work today lasted forever and ever let me tell you :) but came to a end
 

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And so you totally ignore the Scriptures I quoted.
No sir,

I do not ignore the Scriptures. I could unpack the verse for you. tell you what the phrase "forever and ever" meaning age or until the end of the age. Which I did might I add, just did it in a way that was more friendly.
 

Duckybill

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No sir,

I do not ignore the Scriptures. I could unpack the verse for you. tell you what the phrase "forever and ever" meaning age or until the end of the age. Which I did might I add, just did it in a way that was more friendly.
"Forever and ever" means exactly what it says, not what you twist it to say.
 

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"Forever and ever" means exactly what it says, not what you twist it to say.
AMP Then the devil who had led them astray [deceiving and seducing them] was hurled into the fiery lake of burning brimstone, where the beast and false prophet were; and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever (through the ages of the ages).

For ever and ever. Gr. eis aiōnas aiōnōn, literally, “unto ages of ages.” This expression may be compared with the phrase eis ton aiōna, literally, “unto the age,” generally translated “for ever” (see Matt. 21:19; Mark 3:29; Luke 1:55; etc.), or the phrase eis tous aiōnas, literally, “unto the ages,” also generally translated “for ever” (Luke 1:33; Rom. 1:25; 11:36), or the adjective aiōnios, literally, “age-lasting,” generally translated “eternal,” or “everlasting” (Matt. 18:8; 19:16, 29; 25:41, 46; etc.). Like aiōnios (see on Matt. 25:41), expressions eis ton aiōna and eis tous aiōnas do not necessarily denote endless existence.

Nichol, F. D. (Ed.). (1980). The Seventh-day Adventist Bible Commentary (Vol. 7, p. 832). Review and Herald Publishing Association.
 

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Please show me in the word of God where it says angels have human bodies. and explain a Seraphim and the beast Crying day and night Holy Holy holy. The devil comes AS an angel of light, does that mean he is light or is he darkness?
It simply means Satan and demons can masquerade as Angels of God.

Psalm 104:4
Who maketh his angels spirits; his ministers a flaming fire: This is a parallelism in Hebrew. It indicates that angels are spirits, ministers, and flaming fire or at least the appearance there of.
 

TheLearner

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But they did think the angels were humans and that is because angels do look human even though they aren't. Satan has a body because all angels do and he will eventually be wrapped up in a chain and imprisoned in a bottomless pit and in time he will be released.
Hebrews 13:2
Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.
 

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AMP Then the devil who had led them astray [deceiving and seducing them] was hurled into the fiery lake of burning brimstone, where the beast and false prophet were; and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever (through the ages of the ages).

For ever and ever. Gr. eis aiōnas aiōnōn, literally, “unto ages of ages.” This expression may be compared with the phrase eis ton aiōna, literally, “unto the age,” generally translated “for ever” (see Matt. 21:19; Mark 3:29; Luke 1:55; etc.), or the phrase eis tous aiōnas, literally, “unto the ages,” also generally translated “for ever” (Luke 1:33; Rom. 1:25; 11:36), or the adjective aiōnios, literally, “age-lasting,” generally translated “eternal,” or “everlasting” (Matt. 18:8; 19:16, 29; 25:41, 46; etc.). Like aiōnios (see on Matt. 25:41), expressions eis ton aiōna and eis tous aiōnas do not necessarily denote endless existence.

Nichol, F. D. (Ed.). (1980). The Seventh-day Adventist Bible Commentary (Vol. 7, p. 832). Review and Herald Publishing Association.
The SDA commentary? Are you SDA?
 

Duckybill

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For ever and ever. Gr. eis aiōnas aiōnōn, literally, “unto ages of ages.” This expression may be compared with the phrase eis ton aiōna, literally, “unto the age,” generally translated “for ever” (see Matt. 21:19; Mark 3:29; Luke 1:55; etc.), or the phrase eis tous aiōnas, literally, “unto the ages,” also generally translated “for ever” (Luke 1:33; Rom. 1:25; 11:36), or the adjective aiōnios, literally, “age-lasting,” generally translated “eternal,” or “everlasting” (Matt. 18:8; 19:16, 29; 25:41, 46; etc.). Like aiōnios (see on Matt. 25:41), expressions eis ton aiōna and eis tous aiōnas do not necessarily denote endless existence.

Nichol, F. D. (Ed.). (1980). The Seventh-day Adventist Bible Commentary (Vol. 7, p. 832). Review and Herald Publishing Association.
No it's not literally. You're twisting Scripture. It is the same Greek word for EVERLASTING life. Are you really saying everlasting life isn't everlasting?
 

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So you're trying to change the FEAR of God into respect for God. Even though YOU quoted the fear of God several times but nothing that says "respect".
That is the meaning of the Hebrew word, language. I even posted some texts from different translation where in the KjV it uses fear of God and more uptodate modern ones have respect of God.

Also, the english word fear has respect as part of the definition. The Bible was written in a culture and language I am guessing you do not know how to read.