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Then what exactly did Thomas stick his hands into if not nail holes and a spear wound?
Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. John 20:27 (KJV)
Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have. Luke 24:39 (KJV)
The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the Lord. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe. John 20:25 (KJV)
Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. John 20:27 (KJV)
Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have. Luke 24:39 (KJV)
The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the Lord. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe. John 20:25 (KJV)
They also sell lots of rosary's,scapulars,and what not,that have no power or benefit at all,when the Bible says we can do all things through Christ which strengthens us.The power is in the Spirit,not in physical objects,for that is what nature worshippers use,physical objects to try to attain power.
There is one person,William Tapley,who said that Jesus will defeat the antichrist with Mary's scapular and the rosary.
This is silly,for Jesus is God,and does not need physical objects to defeat the antichrist,but the Bible says Jesus will defeat the antichrist with the brightness of His coming.
25The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the LORD. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe.
It seems Jesus was nailed to the cross.
There is one person,William Tapley,who said that Jesus will defeat the antichrist with Mary's scapular and the rosary.
This is silly,for Jesus is God,and does not need physical objects to defeat the antichrist,but the Bible says Jesus will defeat the antichrist with the brightness of His coming.
25The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the LORD. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe.
It seems Jesus was nailed to the cross.
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Dear friends;
No place in the Bible does it say Jesus was tied (in ropes) to a "torture stake", "torture pole", and not "nailed to the Cross"? Where in Scripture does it support the doctrine of the Jehovah's Witnesses, who, also say, that after His death, the body of Jesus Christ was "dissolved in(to) gases"?!
The doctrine of Christ being nailed to a Christ is a teaching of THE BIBLE, ant not specifically and especially of just "ROMAN CATHOLICISM". Some Roman Catholic things are TRUE; but not all TRUE THINGS are "ROMAN CATHOLIC".
In Erie Scott R. Harrington
PS answers.yahoo.com Jehovah's Witnesses You teach that Jesus' Body was "Dissolved" in the tomb" Prove it scripturally?"
No place in the Bible does it say Jesus was tied (in ropes) to a "torture stake", "torture pole", and not "nailed to the Cross"? Where in Scripture does it support the doctrine of the Jehovah's Witnesses, who, also say, that after His death, the body of Jesus Christ was "dissolved in(to) gases"?!
The doctrine of Christ being nailed to a Christ is a teaching of THE BIBLE, ant not specifically and especially of just "ROMAN CATHOLICISM". Some Roman Catholic things are TRUE; but not all TRUE THINGS are "ROMAN CATHOLIC".
In Erie Scott R. Harrington
PS answers.yahoo.com Jehovah's Witnesses You teach that Jesus' Body was "Dissolved" in the tomb" Prove it scripturally?"
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[24] Now Thomas, one of the twelve, called the Twin, was not with them when Jesus came.
[25] So the other disciples told him, "We have seen the Lord." But he said to them, "Unless I see in his hands the print of the nails, and place my finger in the mark of the nails, and place my hand in his side, I will not believe."
[26] Eight days later, his disciples were again in the house, and Thomas was with them. The doors were shut, but Jesus came and stood among them, and said, "Peace be with you."
[27] Then he said to Thomas, "Put your finger here, and see my hands; and put out your hand, and place it in my side; do not be faithless, but believing."
[28] Thomas answered him, "My Lord and my God!" John 23:24-28 RSV
[25] So the other disciples told him, "We have seen the Lord." But he said to them, "Unless I see in his hands the print of the nails, and place my finger in the mark of the nails, and place my hand in his side, I will not believe."
[26] Eight days later, his disciples were again in the house, and Thomas was with them. The doors were shut, but Jesus came and stood among them, and said, "Peace be with you."
[27] Then he said to Thomas, "Put your finger here, and see my hands; and put out your hand, and place it in my side; do not be faithless, but believing."
[28] Thomas answered him, "My Lord and my God!" John 23:24-28 RSV
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I'm confused. When Jesus first appears to the apostles, he showed them his hands and his side (John 20:20), and having seen, they rejoice. Now, if Jesus wasn't showing his wounds... what was he showing them?
And, when Thomas says he won't believe until he sees the marks of the nails in Jesus' hands and puts his fingers in them, why do these apostles -- who have examined Jesus' hands -- not say, "oh, no, you've got it wrong -- Jesus wasn't nailed to the cross; there aren't any marks in his hands!"...???
Moreover, when Jesus wants to prove that it is really him, and not some ghost, in Luke 24, why does he show them his hands and feet? What is it about his hands and feet that prove that it's really him and not some apparition?
As Dude653 has mentioned, there were various means of affixing people to a cross, but this seems irrelevant, given the testimony in the Gospels, which indicates that Jesus was nailed to the cross!
And, when Thomas says he won't believe until he sees the marks of the nails in Jesus' hands and puts his fingers in them, why do these apostles -- who have examined Jesus' hands -- not say, "oh, no, you've got it wrong -- Jesus wasn't nailed to the cross; there aren't any marks in his hands!"...???
Moreover, when Jesus wants to prove that it is really him, and not some ghost, in Luke 24, why does he show them his hands and feet? What is it about his hands and feet that prove that it's really him and not some apparition?
As Dude653 has mentioned, there were various means of affixing people to a cross, but this seems irrelevant, given the testimony in the Gospels, which indicates that Jesus was nailed to the cross!