Why do some Christians think modern crossdressing is an abomination?

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Kerry

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1Ti_2:9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;
1Co_11:14 Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?
Deu_22:5 The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God.

I think MODEST apparel for women is not to show shape or skin. And that should cover justabout everything God gave her for the husbands pleasure.... And nowhere did Jesus rebuke and woman for bad dressing so if we can only find out how the women clothed themselves in Israel back when Jesus was here we will have a perfect God-like fashion....

Good thought is it not? Just look how the most women dressed then and wear the same.

what about skinny jeans for men that show the package, women are just as tempted as men.
 
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Also evil Kerry, I always ask will Jesus wear something I would not, Anmd would I wear something He would not? Then I know what to get my man.
 
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What can a woman wear?

Skirts - no cant wear, thats a Scottish men's dress
Long gowns of any kind? - No cant do that, the Roman menwore Toga, Arab men wear Dish Dasha long gowns, Even Christ wore long gown type dress, so NO thats not women's clothing
Trousers - of course not, today's man wears it
How about long skirts and tops? NOO, medieval men beat the women to those too...

The only women's dress that would meet the approval of Christian men and Muslim men will be this one!


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Kerry

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I'm speaking to men, If you went to church and young 20 something girl is half naked would you be focused on the preacher or the half naked girl?
 
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The church I attend will have no such girls Kerry. And women can wear what they did wehn Jesus was here... Appearently jesus found nothing wrong with any woman back then.
 
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Though I don't know you, or your doctrine, we probably even disagree on most things, you touched my heart and caused me to hurt for you with your short history of experiences dealing with Christians. I am so sorry for all the pain and confusion Christians have caused you. We all fail to walk in love at times, don't we? But some of us just get more of their fair share of people not walking in love, than others. God never stopped loving you ma'am.
Sometimes we make the issues on some doctrines a salvation issue when they are not issues of salvation. IE What happens in baptism,what exactly is communion? Some things are NOT explained to us. Just because I believe something about baptism,and I believe I see those things in scripture does NOT mean I have it all down nor am I right on it. Like it or not WE ALL have some error on these type of doctrines. The areas we CAN NOT have error on is,who is Christ,what did He come to do,and did He rise physically from the dead? And how are we saved?

And to take it even further Jesus said very plainly that we would know if someone IS HIS DISCIPLE by the LOVE WE HAVE for one another. John wrote that if we do NOT LOVE our brother and sister whom we have seen,we DO NOT LOVE the Father whom we have not seen. Paul wrote that if one knows all languages,give ones body to be burned,give everything away and have NOT LOVE it is NOTHING. Jesus also said what is the sum of the law and the prophets? 1st is to love the Lord your God with all your heart,all your mind,all your soul and all your strength. And the second is to love your neighbor as yourself.
 
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paulsfam4

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does a man or women who want to dress like their opposite gender. Glorify God or are they trying to glorify themselves and does it not make a statement about they don't like what God has created.
 
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Though I don't know you, or your doctrine, we probably even disagree on most things, you touched my heart and caused me to hurt for you with your short history of experiences dealing with Christians. I am so sorry for all the pain and confusion Christians have caused you. We all fail to walk in love at times, don't we? But some of us just get more of their fair share of people not walking in love, than others. God never stopped loving you ma'am.
And to take it a bit further,despite the fact many n here claim to be Christian how often do we really see this in many of the threads? Love,joy,peace,patience,goodness,kindness,gentleness,faithfulness and SELF CONTROL. Those are the things that SHOULD be seen in those who claim to be HIS. But the reality is most often we see and hear this

Colossians 3

Since, then, you have been raised with Christ, set your hearts on things above, where Christ is, seated at the right hand of God. 2 Set your minds on things above, not on earthly things.3 For you died, and your life is now hidden with Christ in God. 4 When Christ, who is your[a] life,appears, then you also will appear with him in glory.
5 Put to death, therefore, whatever belongs to your earthly nature: sexual immorality, impurity, lust, evil desires and greed, which is idolatry. 6 Because of these, the wrath of God is coming.[b] 7 You used to walk in these ways, in the life you once lived. 8 But now you must also rid yourselves of all such things as these: anger, rage, malice, slander, and filthy language from your lips. 9 Do not lie to each other, since you have taken off your old self with its practices10 and have put on the new self, which is being renewed in knowledge in the image of its Creator. 11 Here there is no Gentile or Jew, circumcised or uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave or free, but Christ is all, and is in all.
12 Therefore, as God’s chosen people, holy and dearly loved, clothe yourselves with compassion, kindness, humility, gentleness and patience. 13 Bear with each other and forgive one another if any of you has a grievance against someone. Forgive as the Lord forgave you.14 And over all these virtues put on love, which binds them all together in perfect unity.
15 Let the peace of Christ rule in your hearts, since as members of one body you were called to peace. And be thankful. 16 Let the message of Christ dwell among you richly as you teach and admonish one another with all wisdom through psalms, hymns, and songs from the Spirit, singing to God with gratitude in your hearts. 17 And whatever you do, whether in word or deed, do it all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through him.

Galatians 5

13 You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the flesh[a]; rather, serve one another humbly in love. 14 For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.”[b] 15 If you bite and devour each other, watch out or you will be destroyed by each other.
16 So I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh. 17 For the flesh desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the flesh. They are in conflict with each other, so that you are not to do whatever[c] you want. 18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.
19 The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; 20 idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions21 and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. 24 Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. 25 Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit. 26 Let us not become conceited, provoking and envying each other.

2 Timothy 3


But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. 2 People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents,ungrateful, unholy, 3 without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, 4 treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God— 5having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with such people.

6 They are the kind who worm their way into homes and gain control over gullible women, who are loaded down with sins and are swayed by all kinds of evil desires, 7 always learning but never able to come to a knowledge of the truth. 8 Just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses,so also these teachers oppose the truth. They are men of depraved minds, who, as far as the faith is concerned, are rejected.9 But they will not get very far because, as in the case of those men, their folly will be clear to everyone.


 
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Why would I need to wear women´s clothing? What´s the "message" my body or dress sends?

Am i interested in being perceived as a man or a woman?

If, "as a woman", am I not a man, any longer.

If crosssed sex is involved, of course, I know THAT would be wrong, beause I only like women and, obviosly, sex is quite involved in fashion or crossdressing.
 
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does a man or women who want to dress like their opposite gender. Glorify God or are they trying to glorify themselves and does it not make a statement about they don't like what God has created.
So are you saying that anyone that has birth defect is NOT to correct it because "God created them that way"? Does God create birth defects or is that part of the fall? Is it wrong to correct these type of things?



And what is the DIFFERENCE between someone who is born intersexed and this?
 
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Ma'am, that's a pretty strong statement coming from someone who didn't back it up with scripture. If you want to argue a point with me, then use scripture please.
I dare say, there's too much evidence mounted contrary to your doctrine. God hasn't change, what was sin in the OT is still sin today. God still judges and punished His children and the unbelievers for the sins they commit.



No one said anything about what is in the natural. Just because you see something in the natural world, doesn't mean that it wasn't done by a spirit.
In my opinion, too many Christians accept things as God's will and purpose, and therefore don't even bother praying against it. Any deformity is of the devil, it is not of God. The only thing that is of God is the fact that He commissioned it due to someones sin. In this case, I would put it on the parents.
Jesus says otherwise,when you say that birth defects came from someones sin,you make Jesus out to be a liar.

John 9

9 As he went along, he saw a man blind from birth. 2 His disciples asked him, “Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?”
3 “Neither this man nor his parents sinned,” said Jesus, “but this happened so that the works of God might be displayed in him. 4 As long as it is day, we must do the works of him who sent me. Night is coming, when no one can work. 5 While I am in the world, I am the light of the world.”
 
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If I understand this correctly, the whole purpose a man wants to dress up and act like a female, is to attract the same sex.
So how do you explain those who do so that are asexual and have no sex drive to speak of and are not attracted to anyone?
 
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Cross-dressing is simply shameful that's all there is to it.

Why should a man be ashamed he was born a man?

Why should a woman be ashamed she was born a woman?

A crossdresser shows publicly their shamefulness by wearing their Clothes of Confusion. I would advise a cross-dresser to cast aside the garb of their confusion and to take back their rightful place as they were made.
So what is someone who is XX/XY? Are they male or female?
 
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Most of the time ( not all) but most of the time when a person has gone so far as too physical change themselves they are so deceived and their mind debased that will not recognize the truth and refuse to accept Christ. Case in point, For years Noah warned and preached the gospel yet no one responded for their minds were on wickedness continually and laughed and mocked until the day came and they all drowned. I meant God can do anything, but how does a man that has changed into a women become a man again?
How many transgender people do you that you can make that statement? I know a number of them that love the Lord,and many of them also show the fruit of the Spirit. Yet there are many so called "normal" so called Christians who show neither love nor the fruits of the Spirit.
 
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Does not the bible teach that women are to dress modestly like a woman and men are to dress like man? Just asking that is......
And again what does one do if one is XX/XY? Are they male or are they female? Or is this a matter that would the person who is dealing to take it before the Lord and lay it at His feet because He sees the inside?
 
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Reformedjason

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Homosexuality is the issue not clothes. I dont know any straight men that want to wear womens clothing.
 
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Kerry

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As I said in my post God can do anything. I mean a harlot can come to Christ and be made as pure as snow. It's a touhg a call and one would really have to seek God's face on the matter. I meant, I don't know, would that person have to remain single? It certainly wouldn't be right to deceive someone.
 
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Homosexuality is the issue not clothes. I dont know any straight men that want to wear womens clothing.
Are you saying that all that do so are homosexual? If so that is a stereotype and stereotypes no matter how one wants slice it,dice it and put it through a blender is a LIE. Many are ASEXUAL,which by the way is NEITHER "straight" or "homosexual".
 
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Homosexuality is the issue not clothes. I dont know any straight men that want to wear womens clothing.
Most cross dressers are straight. Those that are "transgender" don't just wear women's clothing, they often try to look the par, which cross dressers don't do. Most gay men who are called drag queens, are nothing more than mere caricatures of divas. Most gay people don't cross dress, because they are gay. They are males who like males. While practicing homosexuality is sinful, don't just be bigoted and spew that sissy carp.
 
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danalee

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Are you saying that all that do so are homosexual? If so that is a stereotype and stereotypes no matter how one wants slice it,dice it and put it through a blender is a LIE. Many are ASEXUAL,which by the way is NEITHER "straight" or "homosexual".
We have a lot of mental illness that runs in my family. I don't push the issue a lot and I never, ever expect compassion.

You can't believe the ignorance out there.

When it comes to gender issues, they are literally so complex I don't suggest anyone touch the subject online.

Sometimes we can let it go. Many of these people will never have the scope to understand. They just don't have the experience and literally have no background in medicine or psychology.

Some do have some valid points with perversions etc and that's all people think about when it's presented in a forum like this. People become reflexive and defensive.