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Yup, that's one of the key disappointments I get on this forum. Spurgeon says, "Vain pursuits are dangerous to renewed souls." Most don't get End Times, Reformed vs. Nonreformed, how to punish LBTG..., Grace, Works, creationism, Bible versionism, etc. is all vain pursuits.
BUT, it's about what you get out of here, not what you don't get. And what you give, not what everyone should give. I'm actually asking what your POV is for this forum, but you keep skirting the question, and flinging it to all sorts of places. What does Willie get and give on here?
And there is a real answer in you. I know this because you'd rather do your giving part on Misc, so it doesn't end up in an argument as much.
BUT, it's about what you get out of here, not what you don't get. And what you give, not what everyone should give. I'm actually asking what your POV is for this forum, but you keep skirting the question, and flinging it to all sorts of places. What does Willie get and give on here?
And there is a real answer in you. I know this because you'd rather do your giving part on Misc, so it doesn't end up in an argument as much.
I come here a lot, but I don't actively participate in most discussions because of my physical inability to spend a lot of time typing. I do read many of the discussions, and when I have something to add, I will do it. To be honest with you, I actually find a lot of the on going (many threads on the same subject) almost silly. I don't believe that most people commenting here actually read what they or others are saying.
There are a few people here who have a good working knowledge of the scriptures. When they make a comment, everyone should stop and read their comment. The usual reaction is a rabbit trail comment based on a ?keyword. I wade through the rabbit trail to find the actual meat comments.
I hope I answered your questions.
There are a few people here who have a good working knowledge of the scriptures. When they make a comment, everyone should stop and read their comment. The usual reaction is a rabbit trail comment based on a ?keyword. I wade through the rabbit trail to find the actual meat comments.
I hope I answered your questions.
I don't think less of well educated and knowledgeable people in fact there are several on here who helped me to grow when I was new in faith, I do however have a problem with people who think that they are so knowledgeable that they are right and we are wrong no if and's or butts.
As for me thinking I am more knowledgeable I think you should know me better than that by now Lynn how often have I said how i am lacking and how I have much to learn and grow in faith? I am not afraid to admit if I am wrong and have done so several times and also I do not get my info from God in the way you are thinking. I know his voice and I learn from anything and everything whether that is the scriptures or even something as small as an ant I walk by on my walks
As for me thinking I am more knowledgeable I think you should know me better than that by now Lynn how often have I said how i am lacking and how I have much to learn and grow in faith? I am not afraid to admit if I am wrong and have done so several times and also I do not get my info from God in the way you are thinking. I know his voice and I learn from anything and everything whether that is the scriptures or even something as small as an ant I walk by on my walks
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And your unwillingness to actually address a topic is why I never get what in the world is on your mind to know IF it matches. How about that? Kind of an en passe right there. How do I know what might bother you, if you never converse to start with?
I ask what you get out of coming to BDF, and you don't hit that because you're too busy proving you don't come, while actually responding to a thread on BDF. (You're here, whether that embarrasses you or not.) And instead of actually answering the very questions I've been consistently asking, instead you turn it around to what disappoints you. I try sharing what disappoints me, then re-ask, and viola! Now I won't understand because... because what? You haven't answered my questions to know what to think you think!
So, really? You're right! I rarely understand you because you're very good at making sure no one does. You don't give anything about the actual topic to understand, unless you start it! You don't go for thoughts that "that might suggest that thoughts other than those that match (or at least, accept) mine will be allowed." You don't give your thoughts to do that with. You simply toss a conversation into a different stadium and hope no one notices.
That's not conversation. That's dictatorship.
And don't give me that "Mine aren't allowed" crap! First you're in your 70's, so seriously? You've learned how to deal with life if no one agrees with you. Second, you're American, so you know just about anything is "allowed." Third, you always tell what you believe anyway. You just do it on another forum on this site. And fourth, you're right. I rarely agree with you there either, but have I stopped you from posting anyway?
We're both old enough to know agreeing isn't necessary, so why don't you share what you think, instead of batting everything around as if what anyone else thinks is nothing but a cat's toy to you?
Hermione isn't an owl, and I'm not a mouse! If you don't want to answer the questions, I can live with that. But stop playing this game.
It's not often that people are willing to listen on here. I really am listening, and you're still pretending no one listens to poor ole you. Here's a clue, you're not poor, old, or mealy-mouth enough to play that game. Be Willie and tell what you think. It's better than this victim mentality you like trying out occasionally. Or don't. But don't pretend that's on me or anyone else.
I ask what you get out of coming to BDF, and you don't hit that because you're too busy proving you don't come, while actually responding to a thread on BDF. (You're here, whether that embarrasses you or not.) And instead of actually answering the very questions I've been consistently asking, instead you turn it around to what disappoints you. I try sharing what disappoints me, then re-ask, and viola! Now I won't understand because... because what? You haven't answered my questions to know what to think you think!
So, really? You're right! I rarely understand you because you're very good at making sure no one does. You don't give anything about the actual topic to understand, unless you start it! You don't go for thoughts that "that might suggest that thoughts other than those that match (or at least, accept) mine will be allowed." You don't give your thoughts to do that with. You simply toss a conversation into a different stadium and hope no one notices.
That's not conversation. That's dictatorship.
And don't give me that "Mine aren't allowed" crap! First you're in your 70's, so seriously? You've learned how to deal with life if no one agrees with you. Second, you're American, so you know just about anything is "allowed." Third, you always tell what you believe anyway. You just do it on another forum on this site. And fourth, you're right. I rarely agree with you there either, but have I stopped you from posting anyway?
We're both old enough to know agreeing isn't necessary, so why don't you share what you think, instead of batting everything around as if what anyone else thinks is nothing but a cat's toy to you?
Hermione isn't an owl, and I'm not a mouse! If you don't want to answer the questions, I can live with that. But stop playing this game.
It's not often that people are willing to listen on here. I really am listening, and you're still pretending no one listens to poor ole you. Here's a clue, you're not poor, old, or mealy-mouth enough to play that game. Be Willie and tell what you think. It's better than this victim mentality you like trying out occasionally. Or don't. But don't pretend that's on me or anyone else.
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You are one person that doesn't fear not knowing everything. But when you think everyone else thinks they do know everything, you might well be stunting someone who is like you.
I've seen you go off on stuff you think you (finally) get, and in doing that it takes bravery to take a stand. I suspect quite a few others are doing the same thing, but they don't sound like you, so tend to sound like know-it-alls, when all they're doing is taking up the courage to say what they know.
In the very assumption of thinking so many think they are very knowledgeable, aren't we likely to crush a reed, instead of build it up by the assumption of thinking they think they are oak trees?
(Something I'm trying to figure out how to learn the difference between myself, so don't think I'm giving you any help here. Can't. Don't have it to give yet. I just think we both have the same mentality, but sometimes it isn't what we're thinking we see. Discernment -- an annoying, but necessary, gift that needs muscle memory, if I even learn how to make that muscle work in the first place. lol)
I've seen you go off on stuff you think you (finally) get, and in doing that it takes bravery to take a stand. I suspect quite a few others are doing the same thing, but they don't sound like you, so tend to sound like know-it-alls, when all they're doing is taking up the courage to say what they know.
In the very assumption of thinking so many think they are very knowledgeable, aren't we likely to crush a reed, instead of build it up by the assumption of thinking they think they are oak trees?
(Something I'm trying to figure out how to learn the difference between myself, so don't think I'm giving you any help here. Can't. Don't have it to give yet. I just think we both have the same mentality, but sometimes it isn't what we're thinking we see. Discernment -- an annoying, but necessary, gift that needs muscle memory, if I even learn how to make that muscle work in the first place. lol)
firstly, hub and I are here simply because we were sent here -
we don't always get to choose whom we fall in Love with, and here, at CC,
it has happened that we have been blessed to fall in Love with several
very sweet and kind and knowledgeable people, and even some of the cranky ones
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on the other side of the equation, like Tourist' pointed-out, sometimes CC is more like a
worldly-emotional-battleground', rather than a Godly Biblical Discussion forum...
but, this gives us all the opportunity to rise above 'base-human-behaviour', which is
our JOB anyway...so, in our opinion, it is a 'win-win' situation, with lots of benefits,
if we are willing to be led by the HS and let God's Love in our hearts speak,
no matter what anyone thinks, true 'assurance' can only come from our Saviour...
we don't always get to choose whom we fall in Love with, and here, at CC,
it has happened that we have been blessed to fall in Love with several
very sweet and kind and knowledgeable people, and even some of the cranky ones
-on the other side of the equation, like Tourist' pointed-out, sometimes CC is more like a
worldly-emotional-battleground', rather than a Godly Biblical Discussion forum...
but, this gives us all the opportunity to rise above 'base-human-behaviour', which is
our JOB anyway...so, in our opinion, it is a 'win-win' situation, with lots of benefits,
if we are willing to be led by the HS and let God's Love in our hearts speak,
no matter what anyone thinks, true 'assurance' can only come from our Saviour...
The ones who think so highly of themselves that they have no room for learning and constantly refuse to listen to the counsel of others need no assuming of their thinking in being so knowledgeable that we should not even consider disagreeing with them. They stand out very clearly they are the ones who you see starting highly debated threads and often times about the same subject, they post tons of scripture thinking that because they did they are proven correct but often times their use of the scriptures are found lacking, they constantly are being (what they call attacked) when really it's others giving them correction though tbh it isn't always done in the best way.
They also tend to lash out and attack people some more than others and some only lash out at certain people, they refuse to take council of any kind and most are banned eventually. It is not my desire to simply debate with these kind of people, I do debate with them and sometimes i respond in a manner that is very un Christ like but my desire is that they would humble themselves and learn to see that sometimes we have to be able to admit we were wrong to truly strive in growing in love and Christ.
Of course I would be a hypocrite if I said I didn't need to do the same, I am all to aware of my weaknesses and flaws and I am not afraid to admit it. I would love for people to think of me only as love and as a true representation of god's heart but sadly I have a long ways to go in this and the general thinking is that showing these weaknesses and people seeing that we are not the image we portray as we want to be is in itself weakness but I believe that showing our flaws and our weaknesses and showing that we are not the deeply amazing saint others think we are shows strength.
The knowledgeable and wise more than anyone must understand that we need the humbleness and the willingness to be humbled and learn other wise they will not grow much more
They also tend to lash out and attack people some more than others and some only lash out at certain people, they refuse to take council of any kind and most are banned eventually. It is not my desire to simply debate with these kind of people, I do debate with them and sometimes i respond in a manner that is very un Christ like but my desire is that they would humble themselves and learn to see that sometimes we have to be able to admit we were wrong to truly strive in growing in love and Christ.
Of course I would be a hypocrite if I said I didn't need to do the same, I am all to aware of my weaknesses and flaws and I am not afraid to admit it. I would love for people to think of me only as love and as a true representation of god's heart but sadly I have a long ways to go in this and the general thinking is that showing these weaknesses and people seeing that we are not the image we portray as we want to be is in itself weakness but I believe that showing our flaws and our weaknesses and showing that we are not the deeply amazing saint others think we are shows strength.
The knowledgeable and wise more than anyone must understand that we need the humbleness and the willingness to be humbled and learn other wise they will not grow much more